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[ASL10] Ro8 Preview P2: Fight, Flight, or Freeze? - Page 2

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ajmbek
Profile Joined November 2008
Italy460 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-27 17:30:35
October 27 2020 13:32 GMT
#21
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you could not be more wrong


Mod Edit : spoilers
Sic iter ad astra
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
October 27 2020 17:31 GMT
#22
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it happens, it's be boring if I was always right.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19276 Posts
October 28 2020 00:41 GMT
#23
On October 28 2020 02:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
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it happens, it's be boring if I was always right.

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Except the results of these two matches were more then obvious. You gotta maintain some credibility.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Zeronova
Profile Joined September 2020
54 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-29 02:21:49
October 29 2020 02:16 GMT
#24
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Can’t really blame the author for the ZvZ prediction. Even the best prediction he said was optimistic even with a 3-2 score. Seeing Best go down 0-3 was depressing. But I’m so hype for the possibility of Queen vs random Flash in the finals though

Also I think it’s worth saying what others have pointed out that Soulkey and especially Best looked amazing in recent show matches. It’s a shame it didn’t show in ASL though
orvinreyes
Profile Joined June 2007
577 Posts
October 29 2020 02:55 GMT
#25
go flash!

logged on after years... this is like a forum for just a handful of people now
http://youtu.be/LfmrHTdXgK4
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
October 29 2020 03:42 GMT
#26
On October 28 2020 09:41 BisuDagger wrote:
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On October 28 2020 02:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
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it happens, it's be boring if I was always right.

+ Show Spoiler +
Except the results of these two matches were more then obvious. You gotta maintain some credibility.


Hard disagree. Best was #2 on sponbbang at the time of writing with the highest PvZ rate. Artosis mentioned it in the cast that he has the second highest win rate vs Z in ASL after Bisu too.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19276 Posts
October 29 2020 06:18 GMT
#27
On October 29 2020 11:55 orvinreyes wrote:
go flash!

logged on after years... this is like a forum for just a handful of people now

Don’t let the posts indicate viewership. This thread has nearly 5k views. The LR thread for Ro8 day 1 has 26,000 views. The view count for the English VOD on YouTube is 100k. Less people definitely post on the site then before, but BW viewership is strong right now.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50465 Posts
October 29 2020 09:03 GMT
#28
forums in general are a bit outdated now.

also looking at my LB rank, my credibility is still very much intact, so I'll say it again, it happens.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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chuchutrain
Profile Joined May 2020
31 Posts
October 29 2020 13:53 GMT
#29
On October 29 2020 15:18 BisuDagger wrote:
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On October 29 2020 11:55 orvinreyes wrote:
go flash!

logged on after years... this is like a forum for just a handful of people now

Don’t let the posts indicate viewership. This thread has nearly 5k views. The LR thread for Ro8 day 1 has 26,000 views. The view count for the English VOD on YouTube is 100k. Less people definitely post on the site then before, but BW viewership is strong right now.


Honestly that makes me smile. I love the fact that for all the ups and downs, so many people are still enjoying themselves watching premier tourneys. Doesn't get much better than that.

I'm probably the def of a lurker (new account but my old one only had 100+ posts anyway) but it did use to be fun just reading pages and pages of LR. Alas, times have changed, but today is still good.
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
October 29 2020 14:35 GMT
#30
On October 27 2020 22:32 ajmbek wrote:
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you could not be more wrong


Mod Edit : spoilers

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funnily enough, the Best vs Zero piece predicted the way the series looked quite accurately, just not the end result. It specifically states Zero is very likely to take sets 1 and 3 and that both players might want to use funny builds on the maps they are not statistically favored on. Best's gambit on Polypoid failed and Zero's worked on Plasma. Nobody would argue that Best would take the series after losing on Plasma. If people here predicted the builds players would come up with on specific maps and players themselves allowed to be surprised by them... Well, let's just say it would be really weird.
WriterReV hwaiting!
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-29 15:54:58
October 29 2020 15:54 GMT
#31
TL was a small community before the late 2000s explosion in popularity with youtube casters. Just because its down since the TSL2/3 days is fine in my book. Its cozy.
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