• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:26
CET 11:26
KST 19:26
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT28Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles0Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0258LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2
StarCraft 2
General
Terran AddOns placement How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) WardiTV Team League Season 10 RSL Season 4 announced for March-April
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare Mutation # 512 Overclocked
Brood War
General
TvZ is the most complete match up BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Soma Explains: JD's Unrelenting Aggro vs FlaSh ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 BW General Discussion
Tourneys
The Casual Games of the Week Thread [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [LIVE] [S:21] ASL Season Open Day 1 ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Path of Exile Beyond All Reason New broswer game : STG-World
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Mexico's Drug War
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
YOUTUBE VIDEO
XenOsky
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2663 users

[ASL10] Ro8 Preview P2: Fight, Flight, or Freeze? - Page 2

Forum Index > BW General
30 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 All
ajmbek
Profile Joined November 2008
Italy460 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-27 17:30:35
October 27 2020 13:32 GMT
#21
+ Show Spoiler +
you could not be more wrong


Mod Edit : spoilers
Sic iter ad astra
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50637 Posts
October 27 2020 17:31 GMT
#22
+ Show Spoiler +
it happens, it's be boring if I was always right.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19307 Posts
October 28 2020 00:41 GMT
#23
On October 28 2020 02:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
it happens, it's be boring if I was always right.

+ Show Spoiler +
Except the results of these two matches were more then obvious. You gotta maintain some credibility.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Zeronova
Profile Joined September 2020
54 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-29 02:21:49
October 29 2020 02:16 GMT
#24
+ Show Spoiler +
Can’t really blame the author for the ZvZ prediction. Even the best prediction he said was optimistic even with a 3-2 score. Seeing Best go down 0-3 was depressing. But I’m so hype for the possibility of Queen vs random Flash in the finals though

Also I think it’s worth saying what others have pointed out that Soulkey and especially Best looked amazing in recent show matches. It’s a shame it didn’t show in ASL though
orvinreyes
Profile Joined June 2007
577 Posts
October 29 2020 02:55 GMT
#25
go flash!

logged on after years... this is like a forum for just a handful of people now
http://youtu.be/LfmrHTdXgK4
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
October 29 2020 03:42 GMT
#26
On October 28 2020 09:41 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2020 02:31 BLinD-RawR wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
it happens, it's be boring if I was always right.

+ Show Spoiler +
Except the results of these two matches were more then obvious. You gotta maintain some credibility.


Hard disagree. Best was #2 on sponbbang at the time of writing with the highest PvZ rate. Artosis mentioned it in the cast that he has the second highest win rate vs Z in ASL after Bisu too.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19307 Posts
October 29 2020 06:18 GMT
#27
On October 29 2020 11:55 orvinreyes wrote:
go flash!

logged on after years... this is like a forum for just a handful of people now

Don’t let the posts indicate viewership. This thread has nearly 5k views. The LR thread for Ro8 day 1 has 26,000 views. The view count for the English VOD on YouTube is 100k. Less people definitely post on the site then before, but BW viewership is strong right now.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50637 Posts
October 29 2020 09:03 GMT
#28
forums in general are a bit outdated now.

also looking at my LB rank, my credibility is still very much intact, so I'll say it again, it happens.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
chuchutrain
Profile Joined May 2020
31 Posts
October 29 2020 13:53 GMT
#29
On October 29 2020 15:18 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 11:55 orvinreyes wrote:
go flash!

logged on after years... this is like a forum for just a handful of people now

Don’t let the posts indicate viewership. This thread has nearly 5k views. The LR thread for Ro8 day 1 has 26,000 views. The view count for the English VOD on YouTube is 100k. Less people definitely post on the site then before, but BW viewership is strong right now.


Honestly that makes me smile. I love the fact that for all the ups and downs, so many people are still enjoying themselves watching premier tourneys. Doesn't get much better than that.

I'm probably the def of a lurker (new account but my old one only had 100+ posts anyway) but it did use to be fun just reading pages and pages of LR. Alas, times have changed, but today is still good.
TaardadAiel
Profile Joined May 2017
Bulgaria750 Posts
October 29 2020 14:35 GMT
#30
On October 27 2020 22:32 ajmbek wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
you could not be more wrong


Mod Edit : spoilers

+ Show Spoiler +
funnily enough, the Best vs Zero piece predicted the way the series looked quite accurately, just not the end result. It specifically states Zero is very likely to take sets 1 and 3 and that both players might want to use funny builds on the maps they are not statistically favored on. Best's gambit on Polypoid failed and Zero's worked on Plasma. Nobody would argue that Best would take the series after losing on Plasma. If people here predicted the builds players would come up with on specific maps and players themselves allowed to be surprised by them... Well, let's just say it would be really weird.
WriterReV hwaiting!
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-29 15:54:58
October 29 2020 15:54 GMT
#31
TL was a small community before the late 2000s explosion in popularity with youtube casters. Just because its down since the TSL2/3 days is fine in my book. Its cozy.
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Marine/Raven Guide:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=163605
Prev 1 2 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10:00
Weekly #121
CranKy Ducklings31
LiquipediaDiscussion
PiG Sty Festival
09:00
PiGFest 7.0 FINAL DAY
Clem vs SerralLIVE!
TBD vs Maru
PiGStarcraft1683
ComeBackTV 908
IndyStarCraft 214
Rex136
3DClanTV 78
BRAT_OK 0
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft1683
IndyStarCraft 214
Rex 136
BRAT_OK 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 28630
firebathero 6823
Rain 513
Pusan 425
Larva 338
ggaemo 319
Stork 313
Sea 165
JYJ 163
ToSsGirL 66
[ Show more ]
Last 63
Dewaltoss 61
Backho 36
JulyZerg 21
Terrorterran 13
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm124
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1013
fl0m775
Super Smash Bros
Westballz23
Heroes of the Storm
MindelVK4
Other Games
B2W.Neo464
Mew2King78
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL284
StarCraft 2
IntoTheiNu 7
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 23
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1797
Upcoming Events
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4h 35m
Replay Cast
22h 35m
Wardi Open
1d 1h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 13h
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
KCM Race Survival
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 21: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.