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AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
August 16 2019 23:23 GMT
#61
On August 17 2019 06:35 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2019 02:48 AttackZerg wrote:
On August 17 2019 02:46 LG)Sabbath wrote:
On August 16 2019 00:04 AttackZerg wrote:
Alright Chobo league - lets do this.

See you there

I found you on ladder.

I think you might make one of the big boy leagues.
1900+ on west aint chobo league (

Gateway doesn't affect matchmaking afaik. Geographic location does (and connection).

Gateway is often choosen for geographic location.

On west above 1700 is all Korean. 1900+ vs them is solid af.

My point stands. Lg)sabbath hwaiting!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10258 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-17 00:25:12
August 17 2019 00:24 GMT
#62
On August 17 2019 08:23 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2019 06:35 Jealous wrote:
On August 17 2019 02:48 AttackZerg wrote:
On August 17 2019 02:46 LG)Sabbath wrote:
On August 16 2019 00:04 AttackZerg wrote:
Alright Chobo league - lets do this.

See you there

I found you on ladder.

I think you might make one of the big boy leagues.
1900+ on west aint chobo league (

Gateway doesn't affect matchmaking afaik. Geographic location does (and connection).

Gateway is often choosen for geographic location.

On west above 1700 is all Korean. 1900+ vs them is solid af.

My point stands. Lg)sabbath hwaiting!

You and I both know traditionally "on West" means "on West gateway" which is meaningless nowadays, if you meant "on the West coast/Latin America that routes to West coast and hypothetically catches Koreans more so than Europeans" then yea maybe. At the end of the day, Sabbath, if he is living in Argentina, will most likely match fewer Koreans than someone living in California and (probably, not 100% sure on the infrastructure optimization) around the same if not less than people living on the East coast. He is far more likely to hit other people close to him geographically (Latin America) than he is to hit West Coast, East Coast, or Koreans.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
August 17 2019 00:46 GMT
#63
Yeah I am 1900 without VPN/before the matchmaking change. Since then I've been below 1800 so far mostly vs koreans
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
August 17 2019 00:53 GMT
#64
On August 17 2019 09:24 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2019 08:23 AttackZerg wrote:
On August 17 2019 06:35 Jealous wrote:
On August 17 2019 02:48 AttackZerg wrote:
On August 17 2019 02:46 LG)Sabbath wrote:
On August 16 2019 00:04 AttackZerg wrote:
Alright Chobo league - lets do this.

See you there

I found you on ladder.

I think you might make one of the big boy leagues.
1900+ on west aint chobo league (

Gateway doesn't affect matchmaking afaik. Geographic location does (and connection).

Gateway is often choosen for geographic location.

On west above 1700 is all Korean. 1900+ vs them is solid af.

My point stands. Lg)sabbath hwaiting!

You and I both know traditionally "on West" means "on West gateway" which is meaningless nowadays, if you meant "on the West coast/Latin America that routes to West coast and hypothetically catches Koreans more so than Europeans" then yea maybe. At the end of the day, Sabbath, if he is living in Argentina, will most likely match fewer Koreans than someone living in California and (probably, not 100% sure on the infrastructure optimization) around the same if not less than people living on the East coast. He is far more likely to hit other people close to him geographically (Latin America) than he is to hit West Coast, East Coast, or Koreans.


Fair enough. TBH - I have been away for years, started Remastered last week and the day after I joined they made ladder global. So I am pretty ignorant. I thought the old, I play on west because I'm in the west, was still relevent.

My bad.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10258 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-17 03:12:02
August 17 2019 03:09 GMT
#65
On August 17 2019 09:53 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2019 09:24 Jealous wrote:
On August 17 2019 08:23 AttackZerg wrote:
On August 17 2019 06:35 Jealous wrote:
On August 17 2019 02:48 AttackZerg wrote:
On August 17 2019 02:46 LG)Sabbath wrote:
On August 16 2019 00:04 AttackZerg wrote:
Alright Chobo league - lets do this.

See you there

I found you on ladder.

I think you might make one of the big boy leagues.
1900+ on west aint chobo league (

Gateway doesn't affect matchmaking afaik. Geographic location does (and connection).

Gateway is often choosen for geographic location.

On west above 1700 is all Korean. 1900+ vs them is solid af.

My point stands. Lg)sabbath hwaiting!

You and I both know traditionally "on West" means "on West gateway" which is meaningless nowadays, if you meant "on the West coast/Latin America that routes to West coast and hypothetically catches Koreans more so than Europeans" then yea maybe. At the end of the day, Sabbath, if he is living in Argentina, will most likely match fewer Koreans than someone living in California and (probably, not 100% sure on the infrastructure optimization) around the same if not less than people living on the East coast. He is far more likely to hit other people close to him geographically (Latin America) than he is to hit West Coast, East Coast, or Koreans.


Fair enough. TBH - I have been away for years, started Remastered last week and the day after I joined they made ladder global. So I am pretty ignorant. I thought the old, I play on west because I'm in the west, was still relevent.

My bad.

All good!

Just to clarify, they made ladder MORE global recently, it seems. So, what you're saying is close to the truth, no doubt.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
August 17 2019 12:06 GMT
#66
A little late but this is awesome! A huge thanks to the organizers
Mine gas, build tanks.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
August 17 2019 20:31 GMT
#67
Hmmm, do the rules state that we must all play at least 20 games?

If not, my best shot is to keep rejoining and hope for a high placement score.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-18 00:15:23
August 17 2019 23:12 GMT
#68
This post was crap. So I deleted it.
madcowsx8
Profile Joined August 2019
2 Posts
August 18 2019 05:12 GMT
#69
I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong
I registered as bsl7-janitor
I'm like 4-7 in ladder (I suck)
But I'm not listed on the standings page on the bsl site
Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10258 Posts
August 18 2019 05:19 GMT
#70
On August 18 2019 14:12 madcowsx8 wrote:
I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong
I registered as bsl7-janitor
I'm like 4-7 in ladder (I suck)
But I'm not listed on the standings page on the bsl site
Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

git gud









(sorry jk)
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
August 18 2019 05:33 GMT
#71
On August 18 2019 14:12 madcowsx8 wrote:
I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong
I registered as bsl7-janitor
I'm like 4-7 in ladder (I suck)
But I'm not listed on the standings page on the bsl site
Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

Hey dude - took 12 hrs for my account to show up. I almost posted the same thing.
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2041 Posts
August 18 2019 10:54 GMT
#72
Can we add the rule that you need min. 20 games to be qualified from ladder?
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
BulgarianToss
Profile Joined May 2011
Bulgaria490 Posts
August 18 2019 11:15 GMT
#73
Awesome initiative! gl hf
music is the best thing in the world
Avi-Love
Profile Joined November 2003
Denmark423 Posts
August 18 2019 11:16 GMT
#74
I absolutely agree with a 20 or 30 game minimum -- it stops people from trying to game the placement to artificially inflate mmr going 5-0. It also stops people trying to game the system on the last day of the ladder as well. It would also stop people doing other clever things (one could go 4-0 on a bunch of accounts now, avoid decay and then just need to win 1 single game on the last day of the ladder).
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28731 Posts
August 18 2019 11:34 GMT
#75
ya 20 game minimum is enough, but necessary (at least unless we have a 1 account per user rule ).
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Incomplete..ReV
Profile Joined August 2017
Norway637 Posts
August 18 2019 11:44 GMT
#76
Yeah, the 5-0 concept really goes against the concept of wanting to initiate ladder activity and to drive people to improve even further. With 20 games minimum you have to improve in order to increase your MMR, with 5-0 you only need to get lucky at your current skill. No real improvement required.

Love the ladder stage, but I agree that there should be a minimum requirement for games played to be a valid contestant.
It's ok. I still love you <3
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28731 Posts
August 18 2019 11:46 GMT
#77
For reference I'm currently at 2050 on my BSL account with 30+ games played, and playing 'legit' at my current skill level, I picture myself having a very hard time getting above 2150. Earlier in the season on another account however I went 5-0 in placement matches and got 2240 from that.
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ZZZero.O
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland1574 Posts
August 18 2019 13:51 GMT
#78
We decided to extend a minimum 20 games rule for Proleague and Gosuleague too.

IF you want to qualify for Proleague or Gosuleague, you should have minimum 20 games played in your BSL-Account.

We believe it will support healthy competition over abusing placement matches.

Thanks a lot.
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LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-18 14:08:49
August 18 2019 14:08 GMT
#79
Good call!

Also, there goes my chance of placing anywhere near proleague
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
August 18 2019 15:43 GMT
#80
On August 18 2019 22:51 ZZZero.O wrote:
We decided to extend a minimum 20 games rule for Proleague and Gosuleague too.

IF you want to qualify for Proleague or Gosuleague, you should have minimum 20 games played in your BSL-Account.

We believe it will support healthy competition over abusing placement matches.

Thanks a lot.


Not only do I respect your strength as a broodwar player.

I respect the quickness with which you addressed a gameable flaw.

I hope to qualify for a league where that matter.

Thanks for lending your weight on the topic Eri - I am bouncing between 1850-1880 with a peak ability of 1920-1930 and got really disheartended when I saw how many people can go 5-0 and end up 2200.
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