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On July 09 2019 19:43 ggsimida wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2019 19:26 GrandSmurf wrote: As a die-hard Flash fan, i want Bisu to trample him.
there, i said it. not gonna happen unless he had a radical rethink of his approach in pvt. flash always had bisu's number.
Their record during the professional life of BW was 11-16. That is still in Flash's favor, but far from "flash always had his number".
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I'd imagine it's weighted toward Flash more and more as time went by.
Bisu is great but was always more showman than winner. Let's see him do it in tournament.
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On July 10 2019 02:53 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2019 19:43 ggsimida wrote:On July 09 2019 19:26 GrandSmurf wrote: As a die-hard Flash fan, i want Bisu to trample him.
there, i said it. not gonna happen unless he had a radical rethink of his approach in pvt. flash always had bisu's number. Their record during the professional life of BW was 11-16. That is still in Flash's favor, but far from "flash always had his number".
yeh its ggsimida twisted view about the flash v bisu rivalry he always had that view i guess
flash even admitting one of the few players he feels fear from when playing is bisu..
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Flash is leagues ahead of Bisu if you look at their abilities in a best of series. Remember how long it was before Flash lost a best of to a protoss prior to snow? However I disagree with the above comment. Even if Bisu is perceived as a showman he was a stone cold killer for years in pro league. He holds the highest single season win count and I believe also owns the records in most all kills. In an unprepared best of 1 I would confidently put money on him. That's the scenario in which he beat Flash too.
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On July 09 2019 17:13 marwin wrote: Rush played vs this so called "익명토스" (anonymous toss) an hour ago and compared hot keys in bw chart with the bisu's ones after the game (by his viewers request). And though he didnt set "hotkey selection" option, it was 100% match.
it does look like Bisu.
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On July 10 2019 02:53 Lorch wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2019 19:43 ggsimida wrote:On July 09 2019 19:26 GrandSmurf wrote: As a die-hard Flash fan, i want Bisu to trample him.
there, i said it. not gonna happen unless he had a radical rethink of his approach in pvt. flash always had bisu's number. Their record during the professional life of BW was 11-16. That is still in Flash's favor, but far from "flash always had his number".
are you so used to him winning 80-20 that 60-40 isn't "had his number". stork had 50-50 btw and bisu wished he had some of his tactical nous.
On July 10 2019 04:20 onlystar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2019 02:53 Lorch wrote:On July 09 2019 19:43 ggsimida wrote:On July 09 2019 19:26 GrandSmurf wrote: As a die-hard Flash fan, i want Bisu to trample him.
there, i said it. not gonna happen unless he had a radical rethink of his approach in pvt. flash always had bisu's number. Their record during the professional life of BW was 11-16. That is still in Flash's favor, but far from "flash always had his number". yeh its ggsimida twisted view about the flash v bisu rivalry he always had that view i guess flash even admitting one of the few players he feels fear from when playing is bisu..
of course hes gonna fear the one that does him 40-60 instead of 20-80.
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Yay Bisu is back! I hope his PvT gets more developed and we will have the perfect Protoss! If we can just combine Rain's PvP, Snow's PvT and Bisu's PvZ.... if only
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someone can tell me hows bisu pvp compared to rains??... whats the record between them?..
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On July 10 2019 08:27 zimp wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2019 17:13 marwin wrote: Rush played vs this so called "익명토스" (anonymous toss) an hour ago and compared hot keys in bw chart with the bisu's ones after the game (by his viewers request). And though he didnt set "hotkey selection" option, it was 100% match. it does look like Bisu.
thats like 99% Bisu
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On July 10 2019 13:05 bd.Makin wrote: someone can tell me hows bisu pvp compared to rains??... whats the record between them?.. Between 2013 to 2017 Bisu only lost 3 times in PvP and had an 89% winrate. Bisu vs Rain only happened once and it was an epic long macro game that Bisu won. Bisu holds the highest elo of PvP during the kespa era so he holds the crown in PvP, but Rain is pretty darn close to taking it. He also needs one more PvP finals victory in a major tournament to match Bisu's record during the Kespa era.
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if bisu starts streaming im going to have to quit my job for a bit
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On July 10 2019 06:11 BisuDagger wrote: Flash is leagues ahead of Bisu if you look at their abilities in a best of series. Remember how long it was before Flash lost a best of to a protoss prior to snow? However I disagree with the above comment. Even if Bisu is perceived as a showman he was a stone cold killer for years in pro league. He holds the highest single season win count and I believe also owns the records in most all kills. In an unprepared best of 1 I would confidently put money on him. That's the scenario in which he beat Flash too.
I watched all those Proleague matches. Half the time Bisu wasn't selected for the Ace. Fantasy was, or sometimes even Best. SKT1 was deep enough to have three potential Aces. So you're exaggerating. Yes, Bisu had dominant Proleague seasons. No one ever said he didn't. Even during those dominant seasons, though, he was only sporadically as dominant in BoX, and part of the reason for his dominance was that you had to deal with the two other heavy-hitters in SKT1, especially Fantasy (who had quite the underrated career).
Either way, Proleague is over and has been for what, seven years? I guess that's all you have to hold onto. This thread is about Bisu being back *now*, though. No top players are terrified of him in a BoX. And he's always been relatively porous against Terran. Would be interesting to see if he could even beat Last or Sharp consistently in a BoX.
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On July 11 2019 03:41 KamMoye wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2019 06:11 BisuDagger wrote: Flash is leagues ahead of Bisu if you look at their abilities in a best of series. Remember how long it was before Flash lost a best of to a protoss prior to snow? However I disagree with the above comment. Even if Bisu is perceived as a showman he was a stone cold killer for years in pro league. He holds the highest single season win count and I believe also owns the records in most all kills. In an unprepared best of 1 I would confidently put money on him. That's the scenario in which he beat Flash too. I watched all those Proleague matches. Half the time Bisu wasn't selected for the Ace. Fantasy was, or sometimes even Best. SKT1 was deep enough to have three potential Aces. So you're exaggerating. Yes, Bisu had dominant Proleague seasons. No one ever said he didn't. Even during those dominant seasons, though, he was only sporadically as dominant in BoX, and part of the reason for his dominance was that you had to deal with the two other heavy-hitters in SKT1, especially Fantasy (who had quite the underrated career). Either way, Proleague is over and has been for what, seven years? I guess that's all you have to hold onto. This thread is about Bisu being back *now*, though. No top players are terrified of him in a BoX. And he's always been relatively porous against Terran. Would be interesting to see if he could even beat Last or Sharp consistently in a BoX. Not sure why you try to attack me whenever I post in threads. I work really hard as a contributor for teamliquid and enjoy the fun loving side of this community. I really hope you can find that kind of enjoyment too and engage in fun and constructive conversations with me in the future. Regardless of how you choose to talk to me in the future, I wish you the best. Cheers!
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Right, the hate posts are for Bisu, not BisuDagger.
Bisu, you suck vs terran and that one sexy double shuttle harass game will not take away all the times you stasis'd the front tank and then A moved your army into a sieged up position.
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On July 11 2019 03:41 KamMoye wrote: No top players are terrified of him in a BoX.
gotta love statements like these. Just out of curiosity, which pro's did you ask?
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Just out of curiosity, which pro's did you ask?
I lol'd!
Everyone is scared of Bisu.
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If they weren't "scared" (and probably, this isn't the right word, but I think we all know what's trying to be said) or respected him, this thread and all the vods you see here wouldn't even exist. And these are top players like Larva/Flash/etc who are shocked.
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i just want to see some fpvods i don't care if he plays in tourneys or goes in to retirement
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On July 11 2019 01:46 Alejandrisha wrote: if bisu starts streaming a lot of going to have to quit my job for a bit
haha :D
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