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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12134 Posts
July 08 2019 20:34 GMT
#41
On July 08 2019 16:19 geod wrote:
With all the training he got in Terran Army, i really hope he understands the vsT match-up better now.

They train for TvT though.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1268 Posts
July 08 2019 20:46 GMT
#42
It's definitely Bisu. The style is the same and he pretty much played under a barcode in the Remastered era almost all the time.
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
July 08 2019 20:53 GMT
#43
On July 09 2019 05:22 Highgamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2019 04:29 LG)Sabbath wrote:
On July 09 2019 03:44 rainnmann wrote:
On July 09 2019 03:39 superjoppe wrote:
Did he say he was Bisu or were there some juicy detective work?

Conversly, Best has a terrible micro skill among top protoss player.

You mean macro?


You realized that he wrote Best instead of Bisu there? Best's macro is almost god level.

Oh right lol, yeah and that might be why he's the one Flash has the most trouble with
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JakePlissken
Profile Joined August 2018
55 Posts
July 08 2019 21:05 GMT
#44
That's the Bisu style of bisu build: amazing micro, multitasking, distracing by zealots/corsair then drop/sneaky Dt to kill drones on other base... etc. Conversly, Best has a terrible micro skill among top protoss player.

If you didnt recognize this, you must hadn't watched enough Bisu vods.


To be fair, when Bisu was hot stuff back in the day, every clown on ICCup was copying this style. They were all awful at it, but it was very common. The multitasking DT style has fallen out of favor, and Bisu was the only one who really mastered it, so if someone is taking down progamers on ladder using it, there's a good chance it's Bisu - that's their reasoning. Plus, all of these players have probably played Bisu hundreds of times in practice and can recognize his play, so their gut feeling is probably right.
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1475 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-09 00:36:06
July 08 2019 22:14 GMT
#45
Especially the zealot-harrass-multitasking is just amazing to watch, how he dismantles top players' defensive play with just basic units, surgically creates a situation for the corsairs and DTs to strike.

If you play a lot of BW yourself you know how annoying such a style can be, if you get lured/forced out of your comfort zone by just clever, actually quite logical use of the units one can have. How your game can crumble if the oppo gives you just 2-3 things to juggle at once, where others just do cookie-cutter moves with the same amount/type of units.
When I saw JD play vs Bisu I kept thinking "no, don't send ALL the lings there" or "dude, send one ling to scout that OTHER path now", but it's easy to see as an observer and sick hard to stay on top of all that if you're playing, even for a pro seemingly.
Surely the people who can pull these styles off repeatedly are gifted with a special talent for this, their micro/macro might even be mediocre but they can see the game with their opponents eyes or something, they have like a brain-region/neural-net that can process that interaction apart from what everyone else has.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
July 08 2019 22:50 GMT
#46
SURGERY
get rich or die mining
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
July 08 2019 22:54 GMT
#47
On July 09 2019 07:14 Highgamer wrote:
Especially the zealot-harrass-multitasking is just amazing to watch, how he dismantles top players defensive play with just basic units, surgically creates a situation for the corsairs and DTs to strike.

If you play a lot of BW yourself you know how annoying such a style can be, if you get lured/forced out of your comfort zone by just clever, actually quite logical use of the units one can have. How your game can crumble if the oppo gives you just 2-3 things to juggle at once, where others just do cookie-cutter moves with the same amount/type of units.
When I saw JD play vs Bisu I kept thinking "no, don't send ALL the lings there" or "dude, send one ling to scout that OTHER path now", but it's easy to see as an observer and sick hard to stay on top of all that if you're playing, even for a pro seemingly.
Surely the people who can pull these styles off repeatedly are gifted with a special talent for this, their micro/macro might even be mediocre but they can see the game with their opponents eyes or something, they have like a brain-region/neural-net that can process that interaction apart from what everyone else has.

bisu has a fingerprint even after military. i am looking forward to seeing his games. i think the scene is wide open for him
get rich or die mining
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19400 Posts
July 09 2019 01:27 GMT
#48
All I want is for a Bisu vs Rain bo5 to happen. That's the dream match with his return.
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rainnmann
Profile Joined July 2019
4 Posts
July 09 2019 02:20 GMT
#49
On July 09 2019 04:29 LG)Sabbath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2019 03:44 rainnmann wrote:
On July 09 2019 03:39 superjoppe wrote:
Did he say he was Bisu or were there some juicy detective work?

Conversly, Best has a terrible micro skill among top protoss player.

You mean macro?

I mean while Best has a god macro skill, on other hand his micro is awful relatively to other top protoss. In PvZ his corsairs were named "dohsairs" by some as a joke, due to his awful corsair microing. Bisu conversely can dodge a scourge trap from JD (watch the games in OP).
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1290 Posts
July 09 2019 05:19 GMT
#50
On July 07 2019 22:45 Dante08 wrote:
Has he been secretly practicing?

Join army(serving military service) doesn't mean you are completely blocked from the society and using the Internet.
Of course we get annual vacation + bonus vacation as a reward. some vacations can be given if your family member is in a danger level to pass away or already passed away due to the incident. Also, extreme poverty can lead to get weaved from joining the army(condition has to be followed. Father died, mom's on a bad health, first son, etc)

Anyways, recently I heard we can use cellphones in the army this year of January or so and some troops are letting corpsmen to go out for a short time.

It's up to people believe whether or not bisu has practiced.
Also think about the past what was happening when fantasy, zero, hyun, hiya were coming back.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1946 Posts
July 09 2019 06:26 GMT
#51
what was happening when fantasy, zero, hyun, hiya were coming back?
I don't believe you.
marwin
Profile Joined June 2011
Ukraine111 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-09 08:13:44
July 09 2019 08:13 GMT
#52
Rush played vs this so called "익명토스" (anonymous toss) an hour ago and compared hot keys in bw chart with the bisu's ones after the game (by his viewers request). And though he didnt set "hotkey selection" option, it was 100% match.
Du kan om du vill...
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
July 09 2019 09:32 GMT
#53
Who won?
~
marwin
Profile Joined June 2011
Ukraine111 Posts
July 09 2019 09:52 GMT
#54
Bisu won.
Du kan om du vill...
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2107 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-09 10:08:30
July 09 2019 10:08 GMT
#55
On July 09 2019 10:27 BisuDagger wrote:
All I want is for a Bisu vs Rain bo5 to happen. That's the dream match with his return.


Bisu should be back just in time for BlizzCon, I heard they like showmatches there
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
GrandSmurf
Profile Joined July 2003
Netherlands462 Posts
July 09 2019 10:26 GMT
#56
As a die-hard Flash fan, i want Bisu to trample him.

there, i said it.
One time that happened and I just stopped everything, selected the offending SCV, hit Cancel, moved it over to my Barracks, made a Marine, had the Marine shoot it to death, then left the game.
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1156 Posts
July 09 2019 10:43 GMT
#57
On July 09 2019 19:26 GrandSmurf wrote:
As a die-hard Flash fan, i want Bisu to trample him.

there, i said it.


not gonna happen unless he had a radical rethink of his approach in pvt. flash always had bisu's number.
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1475 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-09 15:50:16
July 09 2019 15:49 GMT
#58
On July 09 2019 19:43 ggsimida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2019 19:26 GrandSmurf wrote:
As a die-hard Flash fan, i want Bisu to trample him.

there, i said it.


not gonna happen unless he had a radical rethink of his approach in pvt. flash always had bisu's number.


Unfortunatelly in that last Proleague-Final Bisu didn't take the call, impolite guy...
Jan1997
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Norway671 Posts
July 09 2019 15:59 GMT
#59
Awesome.
Do something today that your future self will be thankful for.
AdelSC123
Profile Joined March 2010
France362 Posts
July 09 2019 16:33 GMT
#60
On July 10 2019 00:49 Highgamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2019 19:43 ggsimida wrote:
On July 09 2019 19:26 GrandSmurf wrote:
As a die-hard Flash fan, i want Bisu to trample him.

there, i said it.


not gonna happen unless he had a radical rethink of his approach in pvt. flash always had bisu's number.


Unfortunatelly in that last Proleague-Final Bisu didn't take the call, impolite guy...

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