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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50587 Posts
![[image loading]](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/292980955789131776/466999220344455178/image.jpg?width=1221&height=702) Group A  Last MiniMovieRainGroup B Snow ShineSharpSeaGroup C ShuttleSoulkeyJaedongLightGroup D MindHorang2StorkBeStThursday, Jul 19 10:30am GMT (GMT+00:00) Last vs MiniMovie vs RainFriday, Jul 20 10:30am GMT (GMT+00:00) Snow vs ShineSharp vs SeaThursday, Jul 26 10:30am GMT (GMT+00:00) Shuttle vs SoulkeyJaedong vs LightFriday, Jul 27 10:30am GMT (GMT+00:00) Mind vs Horang2Stork vs BestAll matches are Best of 5 Format 
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BLinD-RawR
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
then losers match A + deciding match A on same day oh wait hmm that would require 2 series to be played on the same day by the losers match winner | ||
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dsadsadsa0
United States6 Posts
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KameZerg
Sweden1767 Posts
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Starecat
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Qikz
United Kingdom12023 Posts
Snow Shine Shuttle JD Mind Best | ||
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
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EndingLife
United States1598 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
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HaN-
France1920 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37044 Posts
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prosatan
Romania8496 Posts
MY BOY JD vs light pfffffffff lights tvz is so damn good  | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
I’m rooting for Best. I think Sea might surprise us and go far. | ||
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RWLabs
Korea (South)273 Posts
Also isn't it funny how the second group is filled with second place winners from ASL? | ||
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DjKniteX
United States241 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On July 13 2018 03:09 Seeker wrote: No Flash? He doesn't seem to be competing much these days :/ He couldn't since he made a prior commitment to an event in China (showmatches for RM server being opened there). I personally feel it's a big mistake not to find a way to have him play in KSL, will sadly call legitimacy of winner into question. Still, I'm excited for more BW! :D | ||
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
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Allin_Siegfried
Canada6 Posts
On July 13 2018 04:23 Alpha-NP- wrote: What about Hero? Why isn’t he in this. Hero went to the military, sadly. | ||
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avanhokie
50 Posts
On July 13 2018 04:23 Alpha-NP- wrote: What about Hero? Why isn’t he in this. Went to military service | ||
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TT1
Canada10011 Posts
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dM-White
Chile341 Posts
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JackyVSO
Denmark85 Posts
I think we're looking at: Rain / Mini Snow / Sea SoulKey / Shuttle Mind / Best for the round of 8 | ||
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Grettin
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Alpha-NP-
United States1242 Posts
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GTR
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Kleinmuuhg
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SchAmToo
United States1141 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On July 13 2018 08:26 SchAmToo wrote: fml, Soulkey in a group with Jaedong. Soulkey sucks at ZvZ already and now with JvZ? That's at least one lost series for ma boi. As much as I hate to say it, Jaedong isn't THAT good anymore. Still respectable, but he's a while removed from tyrant. Truly a shame about his physical struggles because that's the real issue by the sound of it. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10684 Posts
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y2kid
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XenOsky
Chile2288 Posts
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ScarletAerie
40 Posts
On July 13 2018 10:12 y2kid wrote: To any1 wondering why Flash's not there - relax... He probably would have qualified, but was not in Korea at the time of the qualifiers( I believe he was in China for some BW event there, but someone with more knowledge has to confirm this) so he's skipping this one. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-tournaments/535019-showmatch-flash-vs-leiche-on-6-30-1700-gmt8 in case anyone else asks | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
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bovienchien
Vietnam1152 Posts
Week 1: Group A, B Week 2: Group C, D Week 3: Winners' and Losers' match Group A, B Week 4: Winners' and Losers' match Group C, D Week 5: Final match Group A, B, C, D Every day, we have 2 best of 5 matches | ||
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MrMischelito
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Rovant1c
China72 Posts
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Timebon3s
Norway751 Posts
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nachtkap
Germany195 Posts
On July 13 2018 04:15 BigFan wrote: He couldn't since he made a prior commitment to an event in China (showmatches for RM server being opened there). I personally feel it's a big mistake not to find a way to have him play in KSL, will sadly call legitimacy of winner into question. Still, I'm excited for more BW! :D More then making a Terran unfavored map pool? | ||
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Lorch
Germany3687 Posts
I feel for Tastosis, even with "only" two bo5s per day, those will be some long days. | ||
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d(O.o)a
Canada5066 Posts
On July 13 2018 02:00 dsadsadsa0 wrote: Video of the group draw here. Cool to see all these pros in the same room, has some English subtitles, too. That was an awesome watch, thanks for the link | ||
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Timebon3s
Norway751 Posts
On July 14 2018 03:17 Lorch wrote: I really don't like that it's all bo5. I love me some starcraft, but who has time to watch 20 bo5s before we even got to the bracket? One bo5 usually takes about 3 hours with pre-game/post-game stuff and commercials. Bo1 in groups has proven to work just fine for BW... I feel for Tastosis, even with "only" two bo5s per day, those will be some long days. I do and I'm gonna watch ever single one of them :D | ||
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
last rain snow sharp soulkey light horang2 best hmm is it bad manner to post prediction? | ||
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Wonk
546 Posts
I'm not too sure about those dates though, where were you getting this from? On the announcement pages (https://ksl.starcraft.com/en-us/about/), The dates they've given are 4 weeks from July 19 to Aug 27 to complete the group stage, twice a week. So I guess that means each group will be finished over two nights? First night they play the first 2-3 Bo5s, and the other day finish the rest? That's the only way I can concieve of them doing it because doing potentially 25 games in a single night and then 25 the next night is pure insanity, one player could concievably end up playing 15 games in a row which is just not possible. | ||
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Chris_Havoc
United States600 Posts
On July 14 2018 09:24 Wonk wrote: Is it actually going to be all bo5s?I thought it was going to be regular double elimination. If they're going to be doing 5x3-5 matches, that's insane. I'm not too sure about those dates though, where were you getting this from? On the announcement pages (https://ksl.starcraft.com/en-us/about/), The dates they've given are 4 weeks from July 19 to Aug 27 to complete the group stage, twice a week. So I guess that means each group will be finished over two nights? First night they play the first 2-3 Bo5s, and the other day finish the rest? That's the only way I can concieve of them doing it because doing potentially 25 games in a single night and then 25 the next night is pure insanity, one player could concievably end up playing 15 games in a row which is just not possible. It's 2 bo5's per night. It will probably be opening 2 matches for each group for the first 2 weeks. Winners & Losers matches per group for the following 2 weeks, and the final matches in the 5th week. | ||
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Wonk
546 Posts
On July 14 2018 11:02 Chris_Havoc wrote: It's 2 bo5's per night. It will probably be opening 2 matches for each group for the first 2 weeks. Winners & Losers matches per group for the following 2 weeks, and the final matches in the 5th week. Yes, this sounds much more sensible, so each player gets a rest between bo5s. This feels like a really good system, I think I prefer this to the bo1 double elims in ASL. And I see now about the weeks, I had to look at a calendar, my brain couldn't work out july19 to aug17 = 10 nights. | ||
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tanngard
Norway1325 Posts
On July 13 2018 12:17 bovienchien wrote: We have 5 weeks for Ro16 Week 1: Group A, B Week 2: Group C, D Week 3: Winners' and Losers' match Group A, B Week 4: Winners' and Losers' match Group C, D Week 5: Final match Group A, B, C, D Every day, we have 2 best of 5 matches Thank you for the information | ||
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Immaterial
Canada510 Posts
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bovienchien
Vietnam1152 Posts
On July 14 2018 16:50 tanngard wrote: Thank you for the information It's just my guess. Maybe, it's: Week 3: Winners' match Group A, B, C, D Week 4: Losers' match Group A, B, C, D I wonder, what's map pool and will bo5 have 5 or 4 maps? | ||
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LocoBolon
Argentina243 Posts
On July 14 2018 03:17 Lorch wrote: I really don't like that it's all bo5. I love me some starcraft, but who has time to watch 20 bo5s before we even got to the bracket? One bo5 usually takes about 3 hours with pre-game/post-game stuff and commercials. Bo1 in groups has proven to work just fine for BW... I feel for Tastosis, even with "only" two bo5s per day, those will be some long days. So to summarize: new cool BW torunament is coming, your reaction is "poor casters, having to cast all that bw". You sure are enthusiastic huh | ||
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Lorch
Germany3687 Posts
On July 14 2018 18:16 LocoBolon wrote: So to summarize: new cool BW torunament is coming, your reaction is "poor casters, having to cast all that bw". You sure are enthusiastic huh Well their standard work day seems to be about 3 hours of actual casting. They'll have to do 6-10+ now. Sorry that I show some empathy. And tbh I don't see how hosting one tournament makes up for all the crap they have done to BW, even if you just look at their shitty attitude towards ASL since Remastered launched. | ||
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MarcoJ
Germany146 Posts
On July 14 2018 19:37 Lorch wrote: Well their standard work day seems to be about 3 hours of actual casting. They'll have to do 6-10+ now. Sorry that I show some empathy. And tbh I don't see how hosting one tournament makes up for all the crap they have done to BW, even if you just look at their shitty attitude towards ASL since Remastered launched. How is this math working? ASL Groupstage had one group a day with 5xBo1. Thus five games. 2xBo5 can at max be 10 games. That would at max double the amount of games. But at least you get rid of the setup time which you have for every Bo1 in ASL Groupstage. So for a Bo5 to conclude you have 3-5 games. Avg is 4, so its 8 games for a set which are 3 games more than in ASL groupstage on avg. Thats probably 1hr more of casting, especially if you consider the smaller total setup time for the players. | ||
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ShAd_1337
Germany1042 Posts
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Timebon3s
Norway751 Posts
On July 14 2018 19:37 Lorch wrote: Well their standard work day seems to be about 3 hours of actual casting. They'll have to do 6-10+ now. Sorry that I show some empathy. And tbh I don't see how hosting one tournament makes up for all the crap they have done to BW, even if you just look at their shitty attitude towards ASL since Remastered launched. Empathy? Oh please, you're just whininh | ||
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Freezard
Sweden1012 Posts
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Duceman
United States87 Posts
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SchAmToo
United States1141 Posts
On July 14 2018 19:37 Lorch wrote: Well their standard work day seems to be about 3 hours of actual casting. They'll have to do 6-10+ now. Sorry that I show some empathy. And tbh I don't see how hosting one tournament makes up for all the crap they have done to BW, even if you just look at their shitty attitude towards ASL since Remastered launched. I'm pretty sure Tasteless and Artosis are more than happy to cast all that Brood War. These games are gonna be sick! Besides, the only possible downside I see is if it ends up being a TvT Bo5. Most Bo5 don't actually go that long I find. | ||
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dlsgud1232
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Broodwar4lyf
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50587 Posts
On July 16 2018 16:37 Broodwar4lyf wrote: I see that Blizzard still shilling SC2 hard by using BW as a sort of tie-up, brand ambassador type thing. In a perfect world I hope BW would just sell it to the Korean government or something lol how is blizz shilling SC2 here? | ||
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
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sM.Zik
Canada2550 Posts
On July 17 2018 02:55 Djabanete wrote: Are we complaining about Bo5 double elimination? I've been waiting for this tournament format for years. This is fantastic. I'm not. So often, the better players 'overall' are out in the ro16 because of 2 bad games, especially when it comes to ZvZ where its already random enough as it is.. The format we have now, the better players should always advance, and I think that's what is the best for everyone. Also, more games to watch is nice for the viewers. People say it's a lot of games for the players... I mean, not sure how I agree with that. They play like 15-20 games a day when practicing on stream no problem and they barely ever take a break between games. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
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maybe
257 Posts
I really miss those "oh sh*t" zoom ins etc. The only times we see the players faces are before and after the games. Also, some glimpses of First Person Views now and then would be really nice. My apologies if this has been questioned and answered somewhere already, just really curious. | ||
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GTR
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funnybananaman
United States830 Posts
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