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FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
September 24 2020 16:17 GMT
#301
I too would like to see a foreigner ranking with no koreans. I just subtract the koreans from the ranking myself mentally anyway. And yeah a few tournaments like HAY and STPL allow koreans, others like BSL and BWCL do not. Afaik the rules are that in order to play, you must be living in a country other than korea..so people like jaeyun and cross are considered american/canadian, while chaelyn is considered korean. I mean, these players are already clearly labelled with the correct flags, so it seems you already know where to draw the line lol. Just remove all the ones with korean flags..I dont see that theres any confusion really.
aka DragOn[NaS]
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
September 24 2020 17:58 GMT
#302
On September 25 2020 01:17 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
I too would like to see a foreigner ranking with no koreans. I just subtract the koreans from the ranking myself mentally anyway. And yeah a few tournaments like HAY and STPL allow koreans, others like BSL and BWCL do not. Afaik the rules are that in order to play, you must be living in a country other than korea..so people like jaeyun and cross are considered american/canadian, while chaelyn is considered korean. I mean, these players are already clearly labelled with the correct flags, so it seems you already know where to draw the line lol. Just remove all the ones with korean flags..I dont see that theres any confusion really.


It's just a question if you show them in the final ranking or not. You need them as reference, else the scores are skewed and biased. Same reason that walk overs shouldn't count toward your ranking, it adds needless variance statistically speaking as those are not related to your skill.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10064 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-24 19:06:26
September 24 2020 18:16 GMT
#303
why would they substract actual games when they don't even substract w.os?

the ranking system is a nice idea but the execution is suspect
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
September 25 2020 08:54 GMT
#304
I also think we already havew sponbang for korean matches which is an amazing source of knowledge about current skill of pros, no need to duplicate that with lower quality.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland298 Posts
September 25 2020 10:12 GMT
#305
No ranking for korean scene = no bets
[ RANKGIM.EU ] Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2042 Posts
September 25 2020 11:38 GMT
#306
Why don't you just take the data from sponnbang database.
https://www.twitch.tv/kogetbw
Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland298 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-09-25 11:49:23
September 25 2020 11:49 GMT
#307
Show me where they share whole db
[ RANKGIM.EU ] Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12054 Posts
September 25 2020 12:35 GMT
#308
My favourite thing about showing the global Koreans (ones that play in HAY and STPL) is it shows just how amazingly good Bonyth and Dewalt actually are. Dewalt even beat Shine for instance in a tournament macro game, albeit a Bo1 that's a huge achievement.

Perhaps if you had a seperate Global Ranking where it had both the Koreans and Foreigners who play in foreign tournaments and just a foreign one where you remove all koreans? That way you get the best of both worlds.
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Poegim
Profile Joined February 2017
Poland298 Posts
September 25 2020 12:55 GMT
#309
Yeah, this is possible to reach in simple way, so thats what im thinking about in distant future. If enough time will be available it can be done some day.
[ RANKGIM.EU ] Aka: Poezja[T4], Zulu. [[ Probably second best player in the world. In honor of my best friend Moagim, he was a Kraken from the sea. Poegim ]]
Comedy
Profile Joined March 2016
469 Posts
September 27 2020 10:47 GMT
#310
On September 25 2020 21:35 Qikz wrote:
My favourite thing about showing the global Koreans (ones that play in HAY and STPL) is it shows just how amazingly good Bonyth and Dewalt actually are. Dewalt even beat Shine for instance in a tournament macro game, albeit a Bo1 that's a huge achievement.

Perhaps if you had a seperate Global Ranking where it had both the Koreans and Foreigners who play in foreign tournaments and just a foreign one where you remove all koreans? That way you get the best of both worlds.


It's the worst of both worlds. Games between koreans and foreigners are always laggy and will never bring out the best play out of anybody. Perhaps dewalt and bonyth are able to do well in laggy games in PvZ sometimes, but it's meaningless entirely.
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