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SuGo
United States681 Posts
On September 24 2020 06:31 TT1 wrote: i won't talk about all the w.o losses in my rec.. but i GREATLY take offense to this ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/VQPgyBd.png) can i pls know when this happened? thx It happened during one of the NASL qualifiers where you made a big deal for them to turn the stream off, acted like a baby and wouldn't let them cast, and still lost. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12041 Posts
On September 24 2020 06:47 SuGo wrote: It happened during one of the NASL qualifiers where you made a big deal for them to turn the stream off, acted like a baby and wouldn't let them cast, and still lost. Lmao | ||
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TT1
Canada10039 Posts
On September 24 2020 06:47 SuGo wrote: It happened during one of the NASL qualifiers where you made a big deal for them to turn the stream off, acted like a baby and wouldn't let them cast, and still lost. PvP? i need proof, if this happened you must have saved the rep on a floppy and framed it, send it over | ||
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SuGo
United States681 Posts
On September 24 2020 08:00 TT1 wrote: PvP? i need proof, if this happened you must have saved the rep on a floppy and framed it, send it over You sound dumb now (well, you did sound dumb in your first post, but even dumber now). Your question was answered. I will leave it at that. See ya. | ||
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Shinokuki
United States923 Posts
On September 24 2020 08:00 TT1 wrote: PvP? i need proof, if this happened you must have saved the rep on a floppy and framed it, send it over oh i remember this! when tt1 unexpectedly got eliminated in the NASL qualifier. | ||
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9-BiT
United States1089 Posts
on a side note LMAOOOO i'm ranked higher than julia get BTFO van gogh | ||
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TT1
Canada10039 Posts
On September 24 2020 08:14 Shinokuki wrote: oh i remember this! when tt1 unexpectedly got eliminated in the NASL qualifier. On September 24 2020 08:11 SuGo wrote: You sound dumb now (well, you did sound dumb in your first post, but even dumber now). Your question was answered. I will leave it at that. See ya. Yea i remember the qualifiers, it took me 3 tries to get in. I remember the losses from the first 2 vs castle/aegyo/models but i genuinely don't remember the game vs susgo.. i must have suppressed the memory lmao. That's why i'm curious about the game :D surely a dt or goon allin on a rampless map, kaka | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7571 Posts
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XenOsky
Chile2356 Posts
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Poegim
Poland289 Posts
U lost here in loser bracket to mr Sugo. Rest answers when ill come back home  | ||
Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4522 Posts
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kogeT
Poland2042 Posts
On September 24 2020 19:20 Liquid`Ret wrote: I clicked on the international ranking for this and saw 3 koreans at the top, does international ranking not mean non-korean players? I agree those should be removed. The thing with keeping them is they play a lot in "foreign" tournaments, hence it kinda makes sense to keep them. Overall a non-korean version of the ranking with re calculated ELO would be interesting to see, as some of the top koreans have a relatively low ELO due to few games (e.g I have lost vs YSC who had like 1000 points while he could have easily topped the ranking in reality) So to sum it up - have an only foreigner ranking (so you can actually say who plays best vs foreigners) and have a korean only ranking that maps only korea vs korea matches.. Primary argument for that is two different player / event pools, it is really uncomparable. | ||
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Poegim
Poland289 Posts
On September 23 2020 18:21 kogeT wrote: Can you please remove my walkovers from Polish RCG qualifiers (matches 30-33)? )) Im sorry Mr KogeT but wo is just loss according to the rules that have been established and according to the organizers of a given tournament. Due to no possiblity to check whether each loss was forfeit or not all games reported by organizers as loss are just loss is ranking. Otherwise, some players would be treated unfairly due to just dont know their wo games are reported as lost. Also there is possibility players can gave intentional wo in some circumstances to get better place in next round group/bracket et cetera. On September 23 2020 19:51 iFU.spx wrote: wow, pretty cool project! And im on top of the site  Thanks! On September 23 2020 23:35 FakeFin wrote: Are there any programing skills required or just collecting information on tournaments? Nope, there is dedicated form to fill, simple and pretty fast / easy. On September 24 2020 01:38 psyCrowe wrote: Great initiative, sounds alot like Gosubet from back in the day On September 24 2020 02:04 FyRe_DragOn wrote: cool to see this is still around Thanks! On September 24 2020 19:20 Liquid`Ret wrote: I clicked on the international ranking for this and saw 3 koreans at the top, does international ranking not mean non-korean players? It was created as foreigner only but instantly i have been asked many times where is Scan , also if they play in international tournaments and organizers allow them to play i dont see any reason to not include them. There is also few other things like, you cant realy know all players and be sure this unknown xyz nickname is korean or not. On September 24 2020 19:31 kogeT wrote: I agree those should be removed. The thing with keeping them is they play a lot in "foreign" tournaments, hence it kinda makes sense to keep them. Overall a non-korean version of the ranking with re calculated ELO would be interesting to see, as some of the top koreans have a relatively low ELO due to few games (e.g I have lost vs YSC who had like 1000 points while he could have easily topped the ranking in reality) So to sum it up - have an only foreigner ranking (so you can actually say who plays best vs foreigners) and have a korean only ranking that maps only korea vs korea matches.. Primary argument for that is two different player / event pools, it is really uncomparable. Yeah and many low rank players lost to you when you had low ELO. Shouldt Chaelyn be allowed? Or maybe just PROs? But then Scan and ajuk wasnt pro anyway i belive. Should be Cross allowed? Is he realy Canadian or just Korean? Is Jayun more Korean or more American, who would judge? There is many problems with that. Its more on tounament organizers hands from my perspective. | ||
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Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4522 Posts
In my eyes it was always clear that regional competition is the preferred format. And for a ranking like this, it would make most sense for korean players to not be included. (Though that makes it weird if tournament organisers do actually include them, like you said.) | ||
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FakeFin
Germany392 Posts
On September 24 2020 19:47 Poegim wrote: Nope, there is dedicated form to fill, simple and pretty fast / easy. Ah great i can help with the korean ranking then(and also a bit with foreign if more help is needed), i'm liquipedia editor so i have a pretty decent overview of the korean competitions | ||
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kogeT
Poland2042 Posts
I think the goal of the tool is to create the most realistic ranking of foreign players, based on their actual results/skill. If you allow players to report walkover so they can be removed they only thing you get is better database. The example of "intentional" vo to get a better place still doesnt matter, as what you try to measure is ELO performance based on matches played against each other. Otherwise you consciously corrupt your data without getting any additional benefit from this. Same for your betting part - the odds should be based on real matches, not walkovers. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10727 Posts
On September 24 2020 20:01 Liquid`Ret wrote: Yes, I have to say it was surprising to me that 3 years after remastered came out, foreign tournaments still have koreans partake in them to win most of the prize money. In my eyes it was always clear that regional competition is the preferred format. And for a ranking like this, it would make most sense for korean players to not be included. (Though that makes it weird if tournament organisers do actually include them, like you said.) I whole heartedly agree with this, thanks for sharing your words of brilliance Mr.Ret. | ||
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Poegim
Poland289 Posts
Change my mind / to fix some games and other not, and BIG one, how to verify when someone will say he lost by wo et cetera. Just belive a word? | ||
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kogeT
Poland2042 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10727 Posts
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