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Loveletter
Profile Joined November 2006
United States543 Posts
February 19 2007 08:15 GMT
#41
Ohh then maybe I should see it. Anywhere I can see the VODs? Or are they on the post of the Iris vs Savior
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HnR)hT
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3468 Posts
February 19 2007 08:32 GMT
#42
Even after Savior had raped Nada and Oov many times he used to lose a lot vs lesser terrans. IMO he only went from "hot zerg of the moment" to something truly extraordinary around Pringles MSL time when he started consistently beating zergs, as well as non-elite terrans. Also, raping Nal_Ra in the finals was an important milestone. Before that match I thought Ra had a decent shot, but those games made me realize that I had badly underestimated Savior, even in light of his already impressive history up to that final.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
February 19 2007 10:38 GMT
#43
On February 19 2007 17:15 Loveletter wrote:
Ohh then maybe I should see it. Anywhere I can see the VODs? Or are they on the post of the Iris vs Savior


go to sc2.org, signup and go to vod download. Fast downloads :D
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EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
February 19 2007 13:18 GMT
#44
I've been placing liquibet votes on ipxzerg for years, before he ever from an msl. He's always been a consistent old school player until the past year, now he's the dominant force. Will it last long? Who knows, I just know he's performed consistently well for his entire career, and even if he doesn't win anymore msls or osls I'll keep voting for him.
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Person514cs
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1004 Posts
February 19 2007 14:06 GMT
#45
I really did not notice him untile he beat boxer 3-0.
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LeJe
Profile Joined December 2006
Romania65 Posts
February 19 2007 14:14 GMT
#46
not many time ago i think... since his sallary is so low in progaming scene
falis
Profile Joined February 2007
United States20 Posts
February 19 2007 15:46 GMT
#47
SaviOr's been winning for awhile, but JulyZerg over shadowed him as the best zerg before so he didn't get much attention.
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5HITCOMBO
Profile Joined March 2006
Japan2239 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-19 15:56:54
February 19 2007 15:55 GMT
#48
On February 19 2007 13:26 Sun wrote:
thanks again captain obvious. He hasn't won anything. Sure he eats/sleeps/trais beside savior which is a great benefit as he is the top zerg player right now. If he manages to beat NaDa who is way more accomplished (one of the best); has better mechanics than the above players in almost every aspect in the final.. then we'll have something to talk about.

Both Iris and H. had him by the balls and they let him go. Don't talk about Iris' micro because he had one too many mistakes in that last game. It was their's for the taking and they fucked up. Iris lacks concentration and ability to seal the deal in the big one yet again and H. never was in that position before.

I'm confused. You flame me because you think Iris isn't worth worrying about TvZ, then rant about how Hwasin and Iris should have BOTH beat savior, the best zerg in the league. Doesn't the fact that they came very close to beating him make them at least somewhat strong?

And your first paragraph has some horrible problems with topic. Who are you talking about? Savior? Iris?
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Sun
Profile Joined March 2006
United States551 Posts
February 19 2007 16:07 GMT
#49
It should be obvious even with the inconsistencies of pronouns and subject. Iris hasn't won anything. This semi was the closest he has come to anything and still he choked for many reasons.. whether you want to bitch (OMFG these maps are so T>Z or any other deliberate attempt you can think of to make you look like a smarty pants). Iris isn't worth worrying about shit. He's been a pro gamer for years and he always choked live. FACT. Iris eats and sleeps beside him. Whom else? His mom. Do the math. "If 'he'... something to talk about" -> should be new paragraph but I'm sure many caught it. Obviously I'm talking about Saviour. He hasn't been that dominate in the last two bo5's. He just made it by the hair of his chiny chin chin.

Next paragraph ---> how much Iris and Mr. H. choke... They aren't strong. You get lucky once in a while. If they make it to the next OSL semis then we can start talking about... oh they are finally starting to get it.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 19 2007 16:14 GMT
#50
Sun seriously just shut the fuck up.
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5HITCOMBO
Profile Joined March 2006
Japan2239 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-02-19 16:26:04
February 19 2007 16:24 GMT
#51
On February 20 2007 01:07 Sun wrote:
It should be obvious even with the inconsistencies of pronouns and subject.

Oh. I'm sorry, it was unclear to me - next time I'll try harder to piece together what you mean.

Iris hasn't won anything. This semi was the closest he has come to anything and still he choked for many reasons.. whether you want to bitch (OMFG these maps are so T>Z or any other deliberate attempt you can think of to make you look like a smarty pants). Iris isn't worth worrying about shit. He's been a pro gamer for years and he always choked live. FACT. Iris eats and sleeps beside him. Whom else? His mom. Do the math. "If 'he'... something to talk about" -> should be new paragraph but I'm sure many caught it. Obviously I'm talking about Saviour. He hasn't been that dominate in the last two bo5's. He just made it by the hair of his chiny chin chin.

I tried. What the fuck are you trying to say? Just clarify the parts in italics, the rest I can kinda understand.

Next paragraph ---> how much Iris and Mr. H. choke... They aren't strong. You get lucky once in a while. If they make it to the next OSL semis then we can start talking about... oh they are finally starting to get it.

Let me put it this way - it took the best player in the game to stop both of them. (I managed to kinda figure out what you were saying here. I still don't get the last sentence.)
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
February 19 2007 16:29 GMT
#52
The fact that he is royal roading the OSL alone and in the finals is a sign to his dominance.
The fact that he is the only Z in the top 4 of the MSL and OSL with maps like Longinus, Arkanoid, Desert Fox, and RLT shows his dominance.

It doesn't matter if Savior even loses this OSL. If he wins it, his case is 5x stronger. If he loses, it's not like this is his only chance. The guy makes it to the finals of his first OSL on a pretty bad set up for Zergs.

How the hell is he not dominant?

No Protoss can touch him...
Less than a handful of T's can take him in a series...
And he is the best ZvZ in a long long while...

You guys are so stupid sometimes. Seriously, pain-inducingly stupid.
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
February 19 2007 16:30 GMT
#53
O yeah.. GL Bisu -_-;;
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Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
February 19 2007 16:35 GMT
#54
i guess noone's mentioned that he's beaten ra 3-1 twice now, and in several 1v1 games
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lamarine
Profile Joined January 2003
587 Posts
February 19 2007 17:40 GMT
#55
On February 20 2007 01:29 SuperJongMan wrote:
The fact that he is royal roading the OSL alone and in the finals is a sign to his dominance.
The fact that he is the only Z in the top 4 of the MSL and OSL with maps like Longinus, Arkanoid, Desert Fox, and RLT shows his dominance.

It doesn't matter if Savior even loses this OSL. If he wins it, his case is 5x stronger. If he loses, it's not like this is his only chance. The guy makes it to the finals of his first OSL on a pretty bad set up for Zergs.

How the hell is he not dominant?

No Protoss can touch him...
Less than a handful of T's can take him in a series...
And he is the best ZvZ in a long long while...

You guys are so stupid sometimes. Seriously, pain-inducingly stupid.


quit babbling about imba maps - the maps are fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (not saying about desert TVP)
So... BW is back
muramasa
Profile Joined March 2005
Canada1299 Posts
February 19 2007 18:13 GMT
#56
I'm really tired of hearing about the maps as well. They've been worse, a lot worse in the past.

What's so bad about Longinus for Z anyway, it's super easy for them to take 4 gas. Sounds pretty good to me.
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KorvspaD
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Sweden468 Posts
February 19 2007 18:23 GMT
#57
well, think about, I can't see any other zergs still in, what does that say?

It does not seem to affect savior as much, but it does feel kind of unfair to the other zergs.
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KovacsFlorian
Profile Joined January 2006
204 Posts
February 19 2007 18:45 GMT
#58
On February 20 2007 03:23 KorvspaD wrote:
well, think about, I can't see any other zergs still in, what does that say?

It does not seem to affect savior as much, but it does feel kind of unfair to the other zergs.


It says that the other zergs must play better. There were maps where T was 0-7 vs Z. So what the Terrans started to do? Played better and started to win on those maps.

If Savior (a pro) can handle the maps, other pro zergs should do it to0. He (Savior) doesn't win because he is an alien. He just uses his mind better to learn and adapt.
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KorvspaD
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Sweden468 Posts
February 19 2007 18:48 GMT
#59
On February 20 2007 03:45 KovacsFlorian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2007 03:23 KorvspaD wrote:
well, think about, I can't see any other zergs still in, what does that say?

It does not seem to affect savior as much, but it does feel kind of unfair to the other zergs.


It says that the other zergs must play better. There were maps where T was 0-7 vs Z. So what the Terrans started to do? Played better and started to win on those maps.

If Savior (a pro) can handle the maps, other pro zergs should do it to0. He (Savior) doesn't win because he is an alien. He just uses his mind better to learn and adapt.

thx for proving my point
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muramasa
Profile Joined March 2005
Canada1299 Posts
February 19 2007 19:31 GMT
#60
On February 20 2007 03:48 KorvspaD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2007 03:45 KovacsFlorian wrote:
On February 20 2007 03:23 KorvspaD wrote:
well, think about, I can't see any other zergs still in, what does that say?

It does not seem to affect savior as much, but it does feel kind of unfair to the other zergs.


It says that the other zergs must play better. There were maps where T was 0-7 vs Z. So what the Terrans started to do? Played better and started to win on those maps.

If Savior (a pro) can handle the maps, other pro zergs should do it to0. He (Savior) doesn't win because he is an alien. He just uses his mind better to learn and adapt.

thx for proving my point


What was your point again, that you're an idiot? You've certainly proven that.

The maps will never be perfect. It's just not possible. These guys are professionals and they have shitloads of time to practice on these maps and come up with new builds. Not to mention that the so called balance of a map typically changes over the course of it's use. This is because players adapt to the maps and the other players builds.

Everytime a new map comes out people online bitch about how imba it is. By the time the maps have run their course the balance has typically shifted completely due to changing builds and styles of the players.
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