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[TTSL] Ro16 Recap & Ro8 Preview

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[TTSL] Ro16 Recap & Ro8 Preview

Text byBisuDagger
Graphics byDiMiaN
April 11th, 2015 01:28 GMT


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(Wiki)Terror TEMPTS Starleague

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Two Protoss, two Zerg, and four Terran advance! The star power in this tournament remains huge and still viewers could care less about the pool of players. This tournament is all about Terror! Casting along side protoss player Britney, never has there been more outrageous commentary in the Starcraft game. A player goes for a strange opening? Terror slaps Britney on the head. Terror misses a recall because he is too busy listening to himself talk? He slaps Britney in the head. Pro player calls Terror out for not understanding the game? Silence... then Britney has to say something and earn another slap in the head. Bottom line is, these two are like watching Abbot and Costello's who's on first routine. Okay fine, so there are games that have been played and matchups to discuss. Teamliquid as always is happy to share that with you.

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Group A

So you missed group A and thought you would get away with it? What were you thinking! Bisu, Sea, Mind, and Killer put on a great show. Mind opened up against Killer and reminds us all why Zergs are on a slump. Terrans are just too good right now versus Zerg. In fact, no zerg in this tournament has defeated a Terran player yet. This would make things incredibly difficult for Killer as Bisu advanced first from the group. Bisu defeated Sea in an awkward game of carriers and then had an epic showdown with Mind. Bisu vs Mind was the rounds most recommended game and a must see. Sea dropped to the losers final and face up against Mind where Sea continues his incredible winning record in online tournaments.

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Group B


Last and Free advance in group B. The results here may be what is expected at first glance, but this group was a difficult tell. Larva has shown extremely solid ZvP in the past, but was unable to take a game off both Shuttle and Free, therefore placing last. Last advancing first is a big step for those who are still unbelievers. Surely, with a Terror League gold, Last will finally be considered for best player in the world.

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Group C

Group C consists of the A level players and two B level players based on current skill. Pusan has yet to put up any good results and again places last in this group. Hopefully he is proving to be a better father then Starcraft player at this time. Effort's easy first game matchup proved to over hype the moment. When it came to Mong, Effort's expansions were slow and his moves were sloppy. Clearly, baby Flash was too much for Effort. The group closed with a ZvZ between Zero and Effort. Zero also showed better reactions times and control as Effort was denied advancement.

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Group D

As mentioned above, another Zerg advances without defeating a Terran. While hero is busy losing to sSak in the winner's match, he let Mini do all the work as he defeats Hiya in the loser's match. sSak like Last advanced first in this group. With tthe two SSL finalist advancing and no KSL finalists, this can only mean the SSL was clearly the tougher tournament.

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Saturday, Apr 11 1:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

Day 1 Match 1: (P)Bisu vs (P)free

Bisu versus Free is an incredibly exciting matchup for PvP. This may be the highest level PvP matchup in the past year. Let's take a look at these players strengths in PvT because I believe that matchup most accurately defines a protoss players skill set. Bisu, for example, is the superior micro player. His best assest when fighting a Terran is his ability to make a smaller number of units take on a seemingly impossible number of units. His ability to pick off spidermines and focus fire the most important units is nearly perfect. Bisu is also great at dealing with harrasment while staying aggressive. Rarely does a terran defeat Bisu through drop harass. These skills translate into PvP perfectly as the early and mid game is about denying reaver drop, harrasing your opponent, and perfect dragoon micro. Bisu owns the trifecta of needs in the early game. Meanwhile, Free is a macro monster in PvT. He expands well and at the right times. Free also scouts really well and responds with the right unit compositions. This is a skill set that isn't earned by mechanical practice and is the result of being extremely intelligent. Free skillset translates well into late game PvP where his unit select ranges beyond dragoons and reavers. If Free can get to templar tech he has a huge chance of success in this matchup.

Prediction
Bisu <Neo Aztec> Free
Bisu <Blue Storm> Free
Bisu <Fighting Spirit> Free


Day 1 Match 2: (T)Mong vs (Z)hero

This matchup hurts the most to think about. Hero has been playing well over the past 3 years, but still hasn't solved his issue with playing Terran. Mong looks to continue the trend of Terran not losing a single map in this tournament to zerg. However, this match specifically favors hero. Hero is 15-20 against Mong including 8 of their last 14 meetings. Mong also went 3 for 12 against killer at the end of 2014. Bottom line, Mong's win rate over the past year is less then 50% versus zerg. If hero has a chance to win versus a Terran, Mong is the one who can be beaten.

Mong <Circuit Breaker> hero
Mong <Neo Requiem> hero
Mong <Fighting Spirit> hero


Sunday, Apr 12 1:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

Day 2 Match 1: (T)Last vs (T)Sea

For those of you who jump to the predictions before reading anything, yes this is definitely an upset prediction. Last is no doubt an incredible TvT player. Last does have a 60% winrate in the matchup. Last did make it to the SSL finals. Yet the stats still favor Sea. Sea and Last have never played so the more experienced player has the advantage here. Sea has an even higher winrate(68%) in TvT that spans over three years and hundred fifty games. Enough with stats, let's talk about the online gaming legend. Sea has won three golds last year in offline leagues, the 41SL, Ssabi Super Tour, and HungryApp ELS Match #2. Sea has two modes on circuit breaker, dominate or get pushed over. That is why the prediction is a 2-0. If sea loses game one expect a 2-1 victory for last.

Last <Fighting Spirit> Sea
Last <Neo Requiem> Sea
<Circuit Breaker>


Day 2 Match 2: (Z)ZerO vs (T)sSak

Zero vs sSak could easily be the most exciting match of the round of 8. Zero has an incredibly unique playstyle in ZvT as seen in the KSL. Zero vs Mong will remain in the minds of the viewers for a very long time. Zero has mastered two base hive tech. Using a fast track to dark swarm tech and eliminating the need to defened a third across the map, Zero has shown zergs how to transition into the midgame. This is by no means an easy build and most zergs don't attempt it because it requires perfect decision making. sSak may prove the antithesis of this build. His harrass savy play will make life hard on Zero. Drop plays and misdirection are key components to the success of sSak. sSak is 21-9 over the past year and with the majority of his loses coming from 2014 ZvT god modesty and the infamous Greater Spire Modesty build. So, yes, sSak does have weakness in hive tech play. This is where Zero comes in. Zero has 3 of those 9 wins against sSak and has improved a ton since their last meeting in December. If sSak wins here he has a good chance of winning the whole league with all the potential Terran fodder. Zero is just too good and odds looks good he will put an end to sSak.

Zero <Neo Aztec> sSak
Zero <Blue Storm> sSak
Zero <Fighting Spirit> sSak


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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
April 11 2015 01:50 GMT
#2
Nice work all!

"Bisu owns the trifecta of needs in the early game."
"If sSak wins here he has a good chance of winning the whole league with all the potential Terran fodder. "
Such figurative language
The bracket is indeed shaping up nicely for a match-up between ex-SKTers (P)Bisu and (T)sSak
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TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
April 11 2015 01:52 GMT
#3
I really look forward to every single game in these matchups.
Protoss has always been the strongest race and always will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
April 11 2015 02:01 GMT
#4
Spotted some typos

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Bisu defeated Sea in an awkward game

Bisu vs Mind is the round's highest

Flash was too much for Effort

His ability to pick off spidermines

This is* by no means

Editer Editor*


Didn't expect a writeup will be made for TTSL ^^. Nice work!
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50601 Posts
April 11 2015 02:03 GMT
#5
lol pls mong will roll hero.
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
April 11 2015 02:21 GMT
#6
On April 11 2015 10:50 prech wrote:
Nice work all!

Show nested quote +
"Bisu owns the trifecta of needs in the early game."
"If sSak wins here he has a good chance of winning the whole league with all the potential Terran fodder. "
Such figurative language
The bracket is indeed shaping up nicely for a match-up between ex-SKTers (P)Bisu and (T)sSak

final is going to totally be zero vs free

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it better be at least
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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
April 11 2015 02:34 GMT
#7
On April 11 2015 11:01 c3rberUs wrote:
Spotted some typos

Typos fixed, thanks

On April 11 2015 11:21 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 10:50 prech wrote:
Nice work all!

"Bisu owns the trifecta of needs in the early game."
"If sSak wins here he has a good chance of winning the whole league with all the potential Terran fodder. "
Such figurative language
The bracket is indeed shaping up nicely for a match-up between ex-SKTers (P)Bisu and (T)sSak

final is going to totally be zero vs free

+ Show Spoiler +
it better be at least

I can see (P)free taking out (P)Bisu and (T)Mong... PvP isn't Bisu's strong suit, having seen him getting trounced by (P)GuemChi 5-6 games in a row during sponsored matches, not to mention how strong free was/is in PvT in the (Wiki)SSL10...

but I can't see (Z)ZerO getting past both (T)sSak and (T)Last
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
April 11 2015 02:55 GMT
#8
Thanks for getting this posted prech! And thanks for the code help xkcd!
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jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
April 11 2015 04:02 GMT
#9
Pretty badass Ro8.
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MattRz
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile1680 Posts
April 11 2015 04:28 GMT
#10
Bisu is really good, i've been watching his stream lately, no surprise.
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake ♞
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
April 11 2015 04:42 GMT
#11
time for me to finally get #1 in liquibets
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10686 Posts
April 11 2015 05:51 GMT
#12
Everytime I see this I think its going to be TSL or TLS again >_<
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Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2216 Posts
April 11 2015 07:55 GMT
#13
I didn't even know that this was happening, nice.
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lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
April 11 2015 08:27 GMT
#14
Looking good for Bisu. His PvTs against Sea and especially against Mind is always a pleasure to watch.
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
April 11 2015 09:25 GMT
#15
Thanks for the write up. Beesuit hwaiting!!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
April 11 2015 14:36 GMT
#16
Spoiler for today's games

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That Hero prediction
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
April 12 2015 14:06 GMT
#17
On April 11 2015 23:36 c3rberUs wrote:
Spoiler for today's games

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That Hero prediction

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Not too shabby.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
April 12 2015 14:36 GMT
#18
On April 12 2015 23:06 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 23:36 c3rberUs wrote:
Spoiler for today's games

+ Show Spoiler +
That Hero prediction

+ Show Spoiler +
Not too shabby.

+ Show Spoiler +
Nice job on the predictions... can't say the same for my LB.. from 19 to 51
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