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On January 07 2014 05:54 miercat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 05:40 Ribbon wrote:On January 07 2014 05:31 miercat wrote:
Also, I like the feature, where the players rate their opponents "attack", "defense", "mindcontrol", etc. For example, in the series when Bisu rated Jaedong's "defence", as 5/10, and then Bisu subsequently got owned because of terrible defense. That was funny. OK? Consider bringing back that feature at some point; it is interesting. They do this in SC2, actually, but the ratings come from reporters or somesuch. Probably they'll do the same. I imagine the English cast will be aimed at getting SC2 people into BW (as well it should be), especially early on. "This is a defiler, the BW version of a Viper. It can do these spells", etc. Tasteless/Artosis are the most likely casters (though Tasteless/Idra would be amazing). It's weird hearing complaints that Artosis "sucks the life out of" Tasteless, though. In SC2, it tends to be the other way around, hence the "Tasteless lost his passion" meme Yea, SC2 is so uninteresting to me, that I haven't been following any of the developments.
It's mostly been weird. The peaks are much higher than they used to be, but the valleys are much, much, lower (tw: sadness). Generally, thanks in large part to the WCS system, its popularity has waned quite a bit. I think that it can come back a bit now that WCS is changed to be less retarded, but in a way, Blizzard was responsible for GOM losing viewers, and thus for GOM picking up BW again. Irony!
I think when the players rate their opponent's ability, it is much more interesting, and adds an additional psychological component between the players. I don't know if what reporters, etc. think, is necessarily as interesting.
I agree. I think SC2's laser like focus on "professionalism" led to "boringness", and I hope GOM has learned from those mistakes as they go back to BW. I think the lack of KeSPA in BW will be helpful in that regard, as players will have free reign to let their personailities shine through (as well as a strong incentive. Gotta get dem stream views!)
I think getting new people invested in the BW stars early on will be critical. Even SC2 kids know Bisu, and Sea was on Liquid (and one of the first to retire to BW).
Whatever the purpose of the English cast will be - whether educational, or otherwise - I'm sure Tasteless and Superdanielman would do a great job, and they were the most entertaining casters besides. I haven't seen any of Tastless' recent casts, but his casts for the GOMTV BW seasons were very entertaining, and I would expect more of the same if he were to cast BW again. Artosis on the other hand, never really added anything entertaining to the casts that I saw.
(Although if he had lost his passion, no one can blame him. For someone coming from BW, SC2 is so boring, it would suck the life out of most people who had to associate with it. Come back to entertaining BW Tasteless ; ))
Getting good casters is also key. If we're trying to win over a demographic used to an obs mode that looks like this. it's vital we get a caster that can explain what the hell is going on, even if that means "dumbing down" relative to what BW fans find ideal.
I really do wanna see Tasteless cast BW, even though he's almost certainly well out of date. And if you wanna see a boring game sucking the life out of the commentators, SC2 is BW compared to this
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Wait, do we HAVE to pay to watch this live?
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for a small tourney R8 im guessing no.. but for a whole full season probably so i guess u cant blame gomtv its what they always do payperview live if im not mistaken think they need that to survive somewhat (but im no expert in this)
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I think its Pay for 1080p
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I want Garimto as caster....
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Hopefully they release more info soon!
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omfg omfg omfg best news to come back to
Welcome back BW
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it would be so cool if boxer played in this tourney omfg
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On January 07 2014 10:36 Bswhunter wrote:
yey
it would be so cool if boxer played in this tourney omfg
Maybe a showmatch, but Yellow and Boxer don't actually belong in this tour.
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is it just me or is anyone else getting warm mushy comforting feelings seeing all of this BW on the rise again?
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On January 07 2014 10:54 gulati wrote:
is it just me or is anyone else getting warm mushy comforting feelings seeing all of this BW on the rise again?
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probably just you since BW has been on the rise for a while now with SOSPA and other events.
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Regarding bw, i get warm mushy feelings every time i see good news.
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Need Tasteless and Artosis. Flash or Jaedong also and Boxer and Yellow
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On January 07 2014 05:11 Ribbon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 03:11 Chef wrote:
Korean passion for BW is so amazing :D Makes a full revival seem like less of a dream. Old BW: OSL MSL Proleague Current BW: SSL Gom Classic Sonic Proleague The revival is here. We're in a new (Bronze?) age of BW, and the dark times are over. Even if we don't get back to 120,000 people in a crowd, we have two individual tournaments, a proleague, and the momentum for further growth.
woah easy there slick, you can't just slap the Gom Classic on the list as if its guaranteed to have more than one season.
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On January 07 2014 05:40 Ribbon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 05:31 miercat wrote:
Also, I like the feature, where the players rate their opponents "attack", "defense", "mindcontrol", etc. For example, in the series when Bisu rated Jaedong's "defence", as 5/10, and then Bisu subsequently got owned because of terrible defense. That was funny. OK? Consider bringing back that feature at some point; it is interesting. They do this in SC2, actually, but the ratings come from reporters or somesuch. Probably they'll do the same. I imagine the English cast will be aimed at getting SC2 people into BW (as well it should be), especially early on. "This is a defiler, the BW version of a Viper. It can do these spells", etc. Tasteless/Artosis are the most likely casters (though Tasteless/Idra would be amazing). It's weird hearing complaints that Artosis "sucks the life out of" Tasteless, though. In SC2, it tends to be the other way around, hence the "Tasteless lost his passion" meme
Greg and Nick would be incredible, Greg's been talking about how it's hard to get gigs because the SC2 caster market is so saturated, he might very well be interested.
As for lost passions and drained life, I think it is a fair assumption by now that SC2 never really lit a fire in Nick the way BW did, and I understand him completely. I've criticized his casting in SC2 more than once, but he was really good in BW. Maybe this could even get him to go back and play some BW instead of Battletoads.
It still makes me giggle hysterically that despite everything that has been done, every attempt to put BW in the grave once and for all, it is still crushing SC2 in Korea in terms of popularity. That is my favorite fact in all of Esports.
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On January 07 2014 11:18 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:54 gulati wrote:
is it just me or is anyone else getting warm mushy comforting feelings seeing all of this BW on the rise again?
((((((((0: probably just you since BW has been on the rise for a while now with SOSPA and other events.
How do you know he wasn't referring to the other stuff as well?
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On January 07 2014 05:11 Ribbon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 03:11 Chef wrote:
Korean passion for BW is so amazing :D Makes a full revival seem like less of a dream. Old BW: OSL MSL Proleague Current BW: SSL Gom Classic Sonic Proleague The revival is here. We're in a new (Bronze?) age of BW, and the dark times are over. Even if we don't get back to 120,000 people in a crowd, we have two individual tournaments, a proleague, and the momentum for further growth.
What we have now is great, but the one concern I still have left is new talent. The current crop of guys will likely be around for a few years, but at some point I suspect they will develop other interests and/or leave the scene.
If we want to be watching BW ten years from now there will need to be enough interest, both from a gaming level and a sustainability level, to allow new amateur talent to rise.
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On January 07 2014 12:16 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 05:11 Ribbon wrote:On January 07 2014 03:11 Chef wrote:
Korean passion for BW is so amazing :D Makes a full revival seem like less of a dream. Old BW: OSL MSL Proleague Current BW: SSL Gom Classic Sonic Proleague The revival is here. We're in a new (Bronze?) age of BW, and the dark times are over. Even if we don't get back to 120,000 people in a crowd, we have two individual tournaments, a proleague, and the momentum for further growth. What we have now is great, but the one concern I still have left is new talent. The current crop of guys will likely be around for a few years, but at some point I suspect they will develop other interests and/or leave the scene. If we want to be watching BW ten years from now there will need to be enough interest, both from a gaming level and a sustainability level, to allow new amateur talent to rise.
There's rumor Bisu can't age past 26. Maybe if we give blood transfusion of Bisu blood to the other players we will be fine.
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On January 07 2014 12:19 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 12:16 L_Master wrote:On January 07 2014 05:11 Ribbon wrote:On January 07 2014 03:11 Chef wrote:
Korean passion for BW is so amazing :D Makes a full revival seem like less of a dream. Old BW: OSL MSL Proleague Current BW: SSL Gom Classic Sonic Proleague The revival is here. We're in a new (Bronze?) age of BW, and the dark times are over. Even if we don't get back to 120,000 people in a crowd, we have two individual tournaments, a proleague, and the momentum for further growth. What we have now is great, but the one concern I still have left is new talent. The current crop of guys will likely be around for a few years, but at some point I suspect they will develop other interests and/or leave the scene. If we want to be watching BW ten years from now there will need to be enough interest, both from a gaming level and a sustainability level, to allow new amateur talent to rise. There's rumor Bisu can't age past 26. Maybe if we give blood transfusion of Bisu blood to the other players we will be fine.
Well he does kind of look like that dude from twilight. Not the skinny guy with no personality, the emo with the unkempt hair.
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