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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51715 Posts
June 15 2026 07:46 GMT
#10181
i believe the game runs at a smidge under 24 fps on the fastest speed so 25ish would probably be the limit
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Soft_General_5023
Profile Joined December 2023
162 Posts
June 15 2026 17:08 GMT
#10182
whats up with arbiter play nowadays?


vod.sooplive.com
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9438 Posts
June 15 2026 18:09 GMT
#10183
On June 16 2026 02:08 Soft_General_5023 wrote:
whats up with arbiter play nowadays?


vod.sooplive.com

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snow went from 152 supply to 122 and then to 112 in an instant
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
shin ken
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Germany614 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-06-15 21:38:09
June 15 2026 19:09 GMT
#10184
On June 15 2026 16:46 GTR wrote:
I believe the game runs at a smidge under 24 fps on the fastest speed so 25ish would probably be the limit


But TR is on another clock internally, right? So a tick doesn't necessarily proceed only when a frame is rendered. So it's just like FPS and Hz of a monitor not lining up and jumping around giving bad effecivly visible frametimes without Vsync - which will probably happen on top of that at 25 FPS as there's practically no VRR monitor capable of going that low and half-rate 60 hz regular Vsync also only gets down to 30.

Effectively with both uneven TR, framerate and Hz timings, it could take just under 3 ticks in the worst case scenario until we get visibly updated information on the screen, making it effectively like 9 FPS even though the game proceeds internally with 25 events per second.

Anyway I'll definitely try another approach as this one was kinda lazy and wasteful anyway, running SC inside a wrapper (cnc-draw) inside another wrapper (Proton) inside an emulator (FEX-emu).
americanfashionalaik
Profile Joined June 2026
1 Post
June 16 2026 15:25 GMT
#10185
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frostadottirkristrun
Profile Joined June 2026
1 Post
June 16 2026 23:16 GMT
#10186
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ehs
Profile Joined June 2026
United States1 Post
June 17 2026 05:56 GMT
#10187
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RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1330 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-06-18 10:06:07
June 18 2026 09:58 GMT
#10188
On June 16 2026 04:09 shin ken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2026 16:46 GTR wrote:
I believe the game runs at a smidge under 24 fps on the fastest speed so 25ish would probably be the limit


But TR is on another clock internally, right? So a tick doesn't necessarily proceed only when a frame is rendered. So it's just like FPS and Hz of a monitor not lining up and jumping around giving bad effecivly visible frametimes without Vsync - which will probably happen on top of that at 25 FPS as there's practically no VRR monitor capable of going that low and half-rate 60 hz regular Vsync also only gets down to 30.

Effectively with both uneven TR, framerate and Hz timings, it could take just under 3 ticks in the worst case scenario until we get visibly updated information on the screen, making it effectively like 9 FPS even though the game proceeds internally with 25 events per second.

Anyway I'll definitely try another approach as this one was kinda lazy and wasteful anyway, running SC inside a wrapper (cnc-draw) inside another wrapper (Proton) inside an emulator (FEX-emu).


on 24 low you get 3 ticks for visual updated information because even though a game turn takes 41.5ms, the system buffers 3 turns to account for the 125ms ping information round trip between player connections on 24 tr low setting. once 3 turns are buffered, it sends the information for a connection round trip, and then it happens on screen. This can result in varying response times on inputs when an action happens on tick 1, 2, or tick 3 of a single buffer cycle before being sent.as a result you need less than 83ms ping between player connections to be able to play 24 low lagg free. it is also why dynamic almost always laggs because they got the values wrong for dynamic.
JDON MY SOUL!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9438 Posts
June 18 2026 13:09 GMT
#10189
i am dying )))

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7115 Posts
June 18 2026 22:13 GMT
#10190
Artosis uploaded a video going over a few ways in which Brood War seems "unfinished"
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9438 Posts
June 21 2026 09:23 GMT
#10191
We have effort vs speed and royal vs best right now

BO 7 !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
hda
Profile Joined May 2026
87 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-06-24 07:11:15
June 24 2026 07:05 GMT
#10192
Looks like 910 just shared his new maps for the new ASL and ladder season -- 3 new maps, Knock Out, plus modified versions of Odyssey, Attitude and Octagon.

https://910map.tistory.com/247

https://910map.tistory.com/category/☆ ASL/☆ ASL 시즌 22

(2) Odyssey RE
(2) Colorless Fate 0.81
(3) Aiolos 0.90
(4) KnockOut 1.4
(4) Backrooms 0.80
(4) Attitude SE 1.90
(4) Octagon SE 1.90

Just test/beta versions for now, to be implemented in July, it appears

Maybe someone wants to start a topic with images and analysis of the maps? Someone less newb than me :D
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey729 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-06-25 15:18:26
June 25 2026 15:17 GMT
#10193
On June 19 2026 07:13 Puosu wrote:
Artosis uploaded a video going over a few ways in which Brood War seems "unfinished"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqZHB8Blra4

Tesagi should be permabanned. It is really striking how different terrans and zergs see the game, yet I look for the protoss prince that was promised. I don't know what the chances are, but if Tulbo can qualify, if Leta can qualify, I say the odds are in favour of what I predict. We will have more of random builds and less straightforward and frankly boring terran games, God bless.
Turrican
Connor56205
Profile Joined November 2025
58 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-06-26 14:18:42
June 26 2026 13:17 GMT
#10194
i'm not sure where to post this, mods feel free to delete.i'm going to post my "Best of X" playlist that i've posted over the years from my "Home of StarCraft" Channel.

let me know if you have any questions/thoughts i'm all ears

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-Z4nVKfXd9U11-esEz-dr9k1IPTbstsS&si=d5Grk4veErVrcQ4u
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey729 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-06-26 14:27:20
June 26 2026 13:42 GMT
#10195
On June 26 2026 22:17 Connor56205 wrote:
i'm not sure where to post this, mods feel free to delete.i'm going to post my "Best of X" playlist that i've posted over the years from my "Home of StarCraft" Channel. let me know if you have any questions/thoughts
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-Z4nVKfXd9U11-esEz-dr9k1IPTbstsS&si=d5Grk4veErVrcQ4u

I couldn't chime in to another channel called Falcon Paladin when I last watched. He was still sorting out which replays to broadcast during the stream and it didn't look as exciting. Good thing you cut out the middleman.
Turrican
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10627 Posts
June 26 2026 14:55 GMT
#10196
On June 26 2026 22:17 Connor56205 wrote:
i'm not sure where to post this, mods feel free to delete.i'm going to post my "Best of X" playlist that i've posted over the years from my "Home of StarCraft" Channel.

let me know if you have any questions/thoughts i'm all ears

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-Z4nVKfXd9U11-esEz-dr9k1IPTbstsS&si=d5Grk4veErVrcQ4u

This is awesome and welcome back Connor!
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prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9438 Posts
June 26 2026 15:04 GMT
#10197
On June 26 2026 22:17 Connor56205 wrote:
i'm not sure where to post this, mods feel free to delete.i'm going to post my "Best of X" playlist that i've posted over the years from my "Home of StarCraft" Channel.

let me know if you have any questions/thoughts i'm all ears

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-Z4nVKfXd9U11-esEz-dr9k1IPTbstsS&si=d5Grk4veErVrcQ4u

much love Connor
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Connor56205
Profile Joined November 2025
58 Posts
June 26 2026 16:09 GMT
#10198
On June 27 2026 00:04 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2026 22:17 Connor56205 wrote:
i'm not sure where to post this, mods feel free to delete.i'm going to post my "Best of X" playlist that i've posted over the years from my "Home of StarCraft" Channel.

let me know if you have any questions/thoughts i'm all ears

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-Z4nVKfXd9U11-esEz-dr9k1IPTbstsS&si=d5Grk4veErVrcQ4u

much love Connor


<3 <3 <3
Connor56205
Profile Joined November 2025
58 Posts
June 26 2026 16:09 GMT
#10199
On June 26 2026 23:55 FlaShFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2026 22:17 Connor56205 wrote:
i'm not sure where to post this, mods feel free to delete.i'm going to post my "Best of X" playlist that i've posted over the years from my "Home of StarCraft" Channel.

let me know if you have any questions/thoughts i'm all ears

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-Z4nVKfXd9U11-esEz-dr9k1IPTbstsS&si=d5Grk4veErVrcQ4u

This is awesome and welcome back Connor!



<3 <3 <3
Connor56205
Profile Joined November 2025
58 Posts
June 26 2026 16:13 GMT
#10200
To add to my previous post, i also made another playlist for showmatches ie. (ultimate battle, the chinese sponsor games ect.) sorry for the double post: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-Z4nVKfXd9WeqCQna9S-A2ChzG3n5wzT
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