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chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2606 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 13:39:07
September 17 2012 13:25 GMT
#1
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Welcome to D Ranks Allkill Teamleague!

After the initial success of the D Ranks Teamleague (Credits to CobaltBlu and Nikon), it is time for some Allkill Action. You might ask yourself what an "Allkill Teamleague" is.

Here is a short summary. Two Teams (with only D-Rankers in case of this league) will face each other. But unlike the original DRTL format, you only need to post your starting player and the rest of your lineup without any order. Then both starting players of the opposing teams will play on a given map. The winner of that match is still allowed to play and must continue against the next player of the Opponent. On the other hand the loser of that match is out of the clanwar. He is not allowed to participate anymore. The team of the losing player may decide, which player they want to send out next and which map they want to play on. This continues until one team is out of players.

For a better explanation (with examples) visit http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/All-Kill_Format !

For accomodating to the majority of the players out there, this thread will be used for finding the best optimal date and time for the clanwars and format. After the initial period of voting time, I will conclude the best possible conditions for the majority of the players.

Thus it would be very good, if everyone interested in participating would partake in the following polls.

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Which day of the week would you like to play the most?
Poll: Best day for DRATL?

Saturday (22)
 
79%

Sunday (4)
 
14%

Thursday (1)
 
4%

Friday (1)
 
4%

Monday (0)
 
0%

Tuesday (0)
 
0%

Wednesday (0)
 
0%

Any (0)
 
0%

28 total votes

Your vote: Best day for DRATL?

(Vote): Monday
(Vote): Tuesday
(Vote): Wednesday
(Vote): Thursday
(Vote): Friday
(Vote): Saturday
(Vote): Sunday
(Vote): Any



Next we should clarify which time of that day would be the most-fitting:
Poll: Time?

6pm CEST til 8pm CEST (10)
 
37%

4pm CEST til 6pm CEST (7)
 
26%

4am CEST til 6am CEST (4)
 
15%

8pm CEST til 10pm CEST (3)
 
11%

0am CEST til 2am CEST (1)
 
4%

6am CEST til 8am CEST (1)
 
4%

8am CEST til 10am CEST (1)
 
4%

2am CEST til 4am CEST (0)
 
0%

10am CEST til 12pm CEST (0)
 
0%

12pm CEST til 2pm CEST (0)
 
0%

2pm CEST til 4pm CEST (0)
 
0%

10pm CEST til 12am CEST (0)
 
0%

27 total votes

Your vote: Time?

(Vote): 0am CEST til 2am CEST
(Vote): 2am CEST til 4am CEST
(Vote): 4am CEST til 6am CEST
(Vote): 6am CEST til 8am CEST
(Vote): 8am CEST til 10am CEST
(Vote): 10am CEST til 12pm CEST
(Vote): 12pm CEST til 2pm CEST
(Vote): 2pm CEST til 4pm CEST
(Vote): 4pm CEST til 6pm CEST
(Vote): 6pm CEST til 8pm CEST
(Vote): 8pm CEST til 10pm CEST
(Vote): 10pm CEST til 12am CEST


(please use a time-converter to see what time fits you best. Sadly the [.time]-tag doesnt work in polls.)

Also the format needs to be choosen:
Poll: Which format do you prefer?

Only starting players known (#3) (13)
 
39%

Option #3 + all maps predefined (#4) (13)
 
39%

Starting players and rest of lineup known (#1) (6)
 
18%

Option #1 + all maps predefined (#2) (1)
 
3%

Starting players and rest of lineup in predefined order known (#5) (0)
 
0%

Option #5 + all maps predefined (#6) (0)
 
0%

I do not care (0)
 
0%

33 total votes

Your vote: Which format do you prefer?

(Vote): Starting players and rest of lineup known (#1)
(Vote): Option #1 + all maps predefined (#2)
(Vote): Only starting players known (#3)
(Vote): Option #3 + all maps predefined (#4)
(Vote): Starting players and rest of lineup in predefined order known (#5)
(Vote): Option #5 + all maps predefined (#6)
(Vote): I do not care



Also the BoX should be suited for everybody:
Poll: Which BoX do you want to play?

Bo7 (25)
 
83%

Bo5 (3)
 
10%

Bo9 (2)
 
7%

Bo3 (0)
 
0%

I don't care. (0)
 
0%

30 total votes

Your vote: Which BoX do you want to play?

(Vote): Bo3
(Vote): Bo5
(Vote): Bo7
(Vote): Bo9
(Vote): I don't care.



What should be the restriction in participating:
Poll: Restrictions?

May hit rank above D+, but must be some seasons ago. (20)
 
51%

Maximum 2999 Points (12)
 
31%

Never hit anything above D+. (6)
 
15%

Do not allow D+ at all. (1)
 
3%

Maximum 2500 Points (0)
 
0%

39 total votes

Your vote: Restrictions?

(Vote): Never hit anything above D+.
(Vote): May hit rank above D+, but must be some seasons ago.
(Vote): Maximum 2999 Points
(Vote): Maximum 2500 Points
(Vote): Do not allow D+ at all.



Further restrictions:
Poll: Allow offracing higher ranked players?

No. (43)
 
83%

Yes, but only if they show replays. (5)
 
10%

Yes. (4)
 
8%

Yes, but with special treatment (not allowed to cheese f.e.) (0)
 
0%

52 total votes

Your vote: Allow offracing higher ranked players?

(Vote): Yes.
(Vote): Yes, but only if they show replays.
(Vote): Yes, but with special treatment (not allowed to cheese f.e.)
(Vote): No.



How many teams should be allowed to partipate?
Poll: How many teams you would like to see?

8 (19)
 
61%

I do not care. (10)
 
32%

16 (2)
 
6%

4 (0)
 
0%

31 total votes

Your vote: How many teams you would like to see?

(Vote): 4
(Vote): 8
(Vote): 16
(Vote): I do not care.


(please only vote 16 if there is enough people interested, e.g. like 130-160 [yea not very likely, I know])

Mappool:
Poll: Which maps?

A mixture of old and new (please respond a reasonable maplist) (20)
 
61%

Only new proleague maps (Gladiator, NCR, etc.) (10)
 
30%

Only old known maps (Python, FS, Othello, Andromeda, Desti, etc.) (3)
 
9%

I do not care. (0)
 
0%

33 total votes

Your vote: Which maps?

(Vote): Only new proleague maps (Gladiator, NCR, etc.)
(Vote): Only old known maps (Python, FS, Othello, Andromeda, Desti, etc.)
(Vote): A mixture of old and new (please respond a reasonable maplist)
(Vote): I do not care.



Allow Raceswitching?
Poll: Raceswitching?

Allow only in between clanwars (announce 1 week beforehand). (16)
 
64%

Allow it without any restrictions. (7)
 
28%

I do not care. (2)
 
8%

Allow within clanwars (announce 1-3 games beforehand) (0)
 
0%

25 total votes

Your vote: Raceswitching?

(Vote): Allow it without any restrictions.
(Vote): Allow only in between clanwars (announce 1 week beforehand).
(Vote): Allow within clanwars (announce 1-3 games beforehand)
(Vote): I do not care.



Punishment for submitting their starting player and lineup to late?
Poll: Punishment?

Starting player is autolose. (#1) (18)
 
72%

Option #1 + Lineup will be taken from last week (#3) (5)
 
20%

Option #1 + opponent team may decide map (#2) (1)
 
4%

No Punishment at all. (1)
 
4%

Walkover in the whole war (#4) (0)
 
0%

First 2 sets are autolose (#5) (0)
 
0%

More then 2 sets are autolose (#6) [please explain why] (0)
 
0%

25 total votes

Your vote: Punishment?

(Vote): Starting player is autolose. (#1)
(Vote): Option #1 + opponent team may decide map (#2)
(Vote): Option #1 + Lineup will be taken from last week (#3)
(Vote): Walkover in the whole war (#4)
(Vote): First 2 sets are autolose (#5)
(Vote): More then 2 sets are autolose (#6) [please explain why]
(Vote): No Punishment at all.



Punishment for showing up late to the clanwar:
Poll: Punishment for late showing up?

Every 15 Minutes one set lost. (21)
 
81%

After 30 Minutes whole Clanwar Walkover. (3)
 
12%

After 15 Minutes whole Clanwar Walkover. (1)
 
4%

After 60 Minutes whole Clanwar Walkover. (1)
 
4%

No punishment. (0)
 
0%

26 total votes

Your vote: Punishment for late showing up?

(Vote): Every 15 Minutes one set lost.
(Vote): After 15 Minutes whole Clanwar Walkover.
(Vote): After 30 Minutes whole Clanwar Walkover.
(Vote): After 60 Minutes whole Clanwar Walkover.
(Vote): No punishment.



Now we should also see if there is enough people interested in such a league:
Poll: Would you play in this league?

Yes, under any circumstances. (21)
 
68%

Maybe. (8)
 
26%

Yes, but only if it suits me perfectly. (2)
 
6%

No, I generally do not like allkill format. (0)
 
0%

No, I am too busy with other D-Rank events. (0)
 
0%

No, there is no prizemoney. (0)
 
0%

31 total votes

Your vote: Would you play in this league?

(Vote): Yes, under any circumstances.
(Vote): Yes, but only if it suits me perfectly.
(Vote): No, I generally do not like allkill format.
(Vote): No, I am too busy with other D-Rank events.
(Vote): No, there is no prizemoney.
(Vote): Maybe.



Maybe we can use sB.Birdie's ELO rating system (Link) to get equal teams:
Poll: Divide players on teams by ELO rating?

No. (17)
 
49%

Yes, average must be about the same. (13)
 
37%

I do not care. (3)
 
9%

Yes, median must be about the same. (2)
 
6%

35 total votes

Your vote: Divide players on teams by ELO rating?

(Vote): Yes, average must be about the same.
(Vote): Yes, median must be about the same.
(Vote): No.
(Vote): I do not care.




I hope that should be it. If you see any necessity in another poll, just let me know and I will create it and edit it in.

Furthermore you can add more suggestions by responding to this thread.

This thread may be used for showing interest in playing. Just post following informations in this thread:
Rank:
ICCUP account:
Race:

While the start of the league may take some time (need to analyze the polls, to get the best out of it), you can already try to organize yourselfs to teams. I am thinking about allowing the DRTL teams to stay together, but if we use sB.Birdie's ELO rating, we might need to reorganize the teams.

Anyone who wants to help me in organizing this, is appreciated.

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None at the moment. But I would really love to see some streams added. So PM me with a request.

I would like to set up a skype group with every teamcaptain in it. This will help me immensly to enforce submitting lineups. What is your oppinion on this matter? Would you like to see that as a captain or do you want to use the PM function?

Feel free to discuss anything related to this league in this thread. This league is not trying to be a competition to DRTL, but just another D-Ranks event. Such a format just is much more fun to me (altough DRTL is fun as well). Please do not see this as an offense towards Nikon's teamleague or Pebble's DRIT. I really just want to have more D-Rank events. Please refrain from posting anything in such a direction, thank you very much.

P.s. yay 1000th post :D I never had an idea to what I should do for 1000th post. I think this is pretty nice for it :D
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2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9498 Posts
September 17 2012 13:36 GMT
#2
woah, that's a lot of polls

Anyways this sounds awesome for D rank players. Btw your liquipedia link to (Wiki)All-Kill Format is broken (just delete the ! and it works).

Also, this would probably be more suited in BW Tournaments section.
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aquados
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands180 Posts
September 17 2012 13:59 GMT
#3
wish i could joinX_X

glgl man^_^
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Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
September 17 2012 14:02 GMT
#4
awesome stuff ! ;D
T H C makes ppl happy
t0ssboy
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria681 Posts
September 17 2012 14:40 GMT
#5
sB.TheMarine
D+
Protoss
Courage is doing what you are afraid to do.There can be no courage if there is no fear.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
September 17 2012 15:01 GMT
#6
Can we use the same teams from DRTL for this teamleague as well? Because that would help with some team organizing and if you want to get say 8 teams, then you only need 4 teams to get together
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
September 17 2012 15:02 GMT
#7
OpalonaLufa
D
Protoss

T H C makes ppl happy
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 16:08:25
September 17 2012 16:08 GMT
#8
Wow, this is really nice... Should be in tournament section though. It'll be interesting to see how this league will affect DRTL and other way around. I think that it'll benefit both organizers as far as experience to have some competition, not sure that it'll benefit the leagues though.

I'll play.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
September 17 2012 16:09 GMT
#9
^threads just for interest.. Hell create a proper one im sure
Jaedong.
greenelve
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany1392 Posts
September 17 2012 16:11 GMT
#10
I like the all-kill format..time could be a little tricky though, anyways:

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Race: zerg
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chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2606 Posts
September 17 2012 16:29 GMT
#11
This thread is more for discussion. After the polls got enough votes (1-2 weeks), I will create a proper tournament thread, with explaining everything and stating every rule, etc.

Also as stated I am thinking about letting the teams from DRTL partake in DRATL. Though we must see, if the teams fit an Allkill format (f.e. a team consisting of aeghrur, Babo, Artanis, Psyonic_Reaver and co. wouldnt be so good^^).
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zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
September 17 2012 16:35 GMT
#12
I'm a complete noob to BW (played about 5 matched on ICCUP) but this sounds fun, would also be good to have a group of players to practice with.
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
September 17 2012 16:37 GMT
#13

Maybe we can use sB.Birdie's ELO rating system (Link) to get equal teams:
Poll: Divide players on teams by ELO rating?

No. (17)
 
49%

Yes, average must be about the same. (13)
 
37%

I do not care. (3)
 
9%

Yes, median must be about the same. (2)
 
6%

35 total votes

Your vote: Divide players on teams by ELO rating?

(Vote): Yes, average must be about the same.
(Vote): Yes, median must be about the same.
(Vote): No.
(Vote): I do not care.



[/QUOTE]
That's a bad idea. If you just ruffle players around they won't feel like they belong keep the same teams as DRTL. I would suggest tho that non teamed players should be encouraged to join a team made by you guys OR if there are enough players split them up into two teams with the ELO rating, but keep the teams that are alraedy set up alone.
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5478 Posts
September 17 2012 16:38 GMT
#14
Rank: D/D+
ICCUP account: Mellial
Race: Protoss
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zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-17 16:39:37
September 17 2012 16:39 GMT
#15
Rank: D/D-
ICCUP account: zefreak
Race: Terran
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aquados
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands180 Posts
September 17 2012 16:51 GMT
#16
On September 18 2012 01:08 Eywa- wrote:
Wow, this is really nice... Should be in tournament section though. It'll be interesting to see how this league will affect DRTL and other way around. I think that it'll benefit both organizers as far as experience to have some competition, not sure that it'll benefit the leagues though.

I'll play.

would be awsome if we could get nikon back to playing again, that we have the old t7 and we can kick some ass again^_^
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Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
September 17 2012 17:19 GMT
#17
I'm a little hesitant about letting players whove hit c- before in on this. Totally fine for it on DRTL, but this could get a little too op if you have a superstar that nobody can touch.
Jaedong.
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2606 Posts
September 17 2012 17:46 GMT
#18
On September 18 2012 02:19 Kal_rA wrote:
I'm a little hesitant about letting players whove hit c- before in on this. Totally fine for it on DRTL, but this could get a little too op if you have a superstar that nobody can touch.


Thats what this thread is for. Discussion on every topic. For myself, I'd like it, because it will be the ace of the team and you could prepare specifically for him. Well thats just a matter of discussion.
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Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
September 17 2012 17:55 GMT
#19
Oh man, this will be mad fun to play in ^^ As long as there is interest in it, people were kinda apprehensive of the format at the start of DRTL 3.
Protossrush
Profile Joined July 2011
United States56 Posts
September 17 2012 18:12 GMT
#20
Rank: D/D+
ICCUP account: Terrell568
Race: zerg
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