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SlowBullets United States839 Posts May 18 2012 14:50 GMT #161 It's a shame they had to retire as they were up-and-coming players, but at least they played for the game that they truly loved and that is very respectful. GL to both

DyEnasTy United States3721 Posts May 18 2012 15:54 GMT #162 No Killer!

Motivate 2860 Posts May 18 2012 15:57 GMT #163 brave never got to play another pvt

gn0m Sweden302 Posts May 18 2012 22:07 GMT #164 Really sad to see Brave leave, such an interesting player... But it doesn’t really come as a shock; they are forced to stop playing the game they love and have devoted so much time into. I expect a lot more of retirements before the full switch to SC2.

slytown Korea (South)1411 Posts May 18 2012 22:32 GMT #165 tiss sad. gonna miss these two.

Greg_J China4409 Posts May 18 2012 23:47 GMT #166 This hurts a lot. I followed every single Killer game I thought he was gonna be the future of Oz and perhaps even zerg. Now I know there is no future.

menaceko United States58 Posts May 19 2012 00:04 GMT #167 noooo Brave nooooooooo

setzer United States3284 Posts May 19 2012 00:10 GMT #168 Ah Killer ... I still remember when you were getting nuked by Boxer. You were supposed to be the heir to the Dong but things just didn't work out with Oz's dissolution. I was looking forward to seeing how Killer transitioned to SC2 but its better that he moves on and doesn't continue being a pro for a game I suspect he didn't like.

ellerina Philippines452 Posts May 19 2012 04:35 GMT #169 I always thought they had real BW talent, sad to see them go.

NekoFlandre United States497 Posts May 19 2012 04:54 GMT #170 Wow, I didn't really expect this. Farewell in your endevours! Both of you had good games, be well.

KenNage Chile885 Posts May 19 2012 05:03 GMT #171 sad about retirements, i hope they find happiness in whatever they may do now, expecting a lot of retirements when the hybrid pl ends

Ryusei-R1 United States2106 Posts May 19 2012 05:13 GMT #172 MINIDONG NOOOOOO

googolplex United States280 Posts May 19 2012 06:11 GMT #173 poor killer

Djabanete United States2786 Posts May 19 2012 07:54 GMT #174 Before T8 happened, Killer was starting to look good. Really good. Good luck Killer and Brave!

pyrogenetix China5098 Posts May 19 2012 10:15 GMT #175 Brave??? He's decent.

ShadeR Australia7535 Posts May 19 2012 12:01 GMT #176 On May 19 2012 19:15 pyrogenetix wrote: Brave??? He's decent. I expect a lot of other decent players to retire. They've worked so hard breaking out making name for themselves, and now BAM new game. start over.

Air2gear 177 Posts May 19 2012 12:12 GMT #177 Ah shucks, I always rooted for Killer when he played. Hope for the best for Killer and Brave.

SatelliteNoodles 220 Posts May 19 2012 12:21 GMT #178 Minidong noooooooo!!!!!

infinity2k9 United Kingdom2397 Posts May 19 2012 12:41 GMT #179 Damn, Killer never reached his potential for sure, and Brave prehaps even more so. I think any P with a good record in PvZ right from the beginning is worth watching out for imo. Damn Samsung had a really nice lineup of homegrown players starting to emerge before things got fucked up, i think in 1-2 seasons they may well have been top again. I'm surprised there's not more retirements really, I expect a few more in the near future at least... does anyone think Jaedong for example, would have the motivation to learn a whole new game? He's looked like he's had enough for ages now, after the dual starleagues. It's a shame really, because as a big fan of him i think it's kinda sad how Flash is so much more revered when imo Jaedong at his peak was as good if not better. When did he last lose a series against a P, 2009? Has the second highest vT ELO despite it being the worst matchup statistically through almost the whole history of BW, no other Z comes close to some of the best ZvT he's shown. And vZ he managed to keep 80% for a long period, and still today 72% despite it being a 'coinflip', (even Calm once called it such). All this while everyone is targeting him specifically with abusive special builds. Remember the ensnares vs Fantasy before queens were cool? dual stack mutalisks? turning an 0-2 final into 3-2, figuring out a counter-strategy on-the-fly.. meanwhile Flash loses a final being 2-0 up and then just repeats the 14CC ecocheese risk to beat Jaedong, knowing there's only early pool that can directly counter it and has no good follow up. 1rax CC vs 12hatch on a balanced map i would take JD any day. He's still 23-22 head-to-head vs Flash in spite of balance, sometimes downright awful maps and abusive TvZ strategies. Not to put down Flash at all. Just think JD has an edge. Bisu will not get as much credit as deserved either i suspect, unfortunately it's entirely his fault for that though.

ppshchik United States862 Posts May 19 2012 15:12 GMT #180 As much as I like both games it's stupid to incorporate 2 games in a league, Killer and Brave are up and coming hardworking players who don't have the star powers of Flash / Jaedong yet they're forced to practice a new game. Fucking stupid

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