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Killer and Brave retire

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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 00:59:58
May 17 2012 08:48 GMT
#1
Update

Killer left a message on his fancafe: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=338756

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Both (Z)Killer and (P)Brave's names were left out of the official rosters submitted to Kespa on 17th May for the upcoming Proleague season. Their retirements have been confirmed.

It seems that Killer had the desire to retire after last season and after getting knocked out of the ODT, that decision was confirmed. According to Coach Han, there were several reasons behind Killer's decision to retire, including a loss of interest in progaming, a cutback in his salary and concerns over when to enter the military.

Brave left Khan house during the off-season. Although the reason for his retirement was not given, he is expected to choose another career path. According to Fomos, there are fears that there will be further retirements in light of the changes made to the Proleague.


Source:
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=60517
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=60514
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=124533&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=124534&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=


This is pretty bad news. On 5th May, I noticed that Killer posted on facebook that he had returned to Chuncheon, which is his home town. That aroused my suspicions but I still hoped he hadn't taken the decision to retire. Unfortunately, it was true. This makes me quite sad. However, I did not see Brave's retirement coming at all.
All the best to both of them!

Brace yourselves BW fans.


Edit:
Killer
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 08:51:42
May 17 2012 08:51 GMT
#2
Bummer, i will never forget panicked Killer face from the game vs Boxer

Nah seriously bummer, he was a good player. And brave ;(

Male-toss. Farewell.
Stork[gm]
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6788 Posts
May 17 2012 08:54 GMT
#3
looks like he not adapted to sc2 T_T
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
May 17 2012 08:55 GMT
#4
Killer noooo. His story was so touching...a countryside boy wanted to be a progamer and he finally made it.
ggaemo fan
Poetic[AoV]
Profile Joined November 2009
United Kingdom183 Posts
May 17 2012 08:56 GMT
#5
When there will be no more Broodwar, they took the honourable way out. They both had so much potential, especially Killer.
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
May 17 2012 08:56 GMT
#6
What babydong Nooooooooo!
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 17 2012 08:56 GMT
#7
If these are the only retirements It's not nearly as bad as I was expecting.

Still sad of course.
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
May 17 2012 08:57 GMT
#8
I kinda understand why Killer want to retire but Brave?
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 17 2012 08:58 GMT
#9
I guess by.hero's move to Team 8 makes sense now that Killer is gone.

But any retirement is sad. I will really miss mini-Dong.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
May 17 2012 08:59 GMT
#10
Ryo what your hunch tells you. Will there be more retirements?
Stork[gm]
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
May 17 2012 09:01 GMT
#11
The switch to SC2 is coming soon, players who aren't 100% motivated will find it very hard I think.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
May 17 2012 09:01 GMT
#12
Killer :<

I feel bad for the players. Their livelihood is ending and changing so quickly.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Reuental
Profile Joined July 2009
United States457 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 09:02:23
May 17 2012 09:02 GMT
#13
This will probably be the first of many retirements that we will see in the next coming months, with the pro BW scene ending and all, the good news is that he might be able to stream now.
I'm a Crab made of men.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
May 17 2012 09:02 GMT
#14
good luck guys and thank you for your games
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 09:10:31
May 17 2012 09:08 GMT
#15
On May 17 2012 18:02 Reuental wrote:
This will probably be the first of many retirements that we will see in the next coming months, with the pro BW scene ending and all, the good news is that he might be able to stream now.


He wouldn't retire to play SC 2 out of Kespa . It makes no sense , since it is the most established E - sports entity in the world. If he quit , because BW is on it's last leg , he has probably quit gaming for good .
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
May 17 2012 09:13 GMT
#16
Not the minidong And Brave was good too.

How many will go and follow their footsteps?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81288 <--- How I fell in love with a man, a team, a game and a website in a single day... | "There are no false gods, there is only the Emperor, and Choi Yun Sung is his prophet." -> Zona 40k
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
May 17 2012 09:15 GMT
#17
Both seemed really talented. Brave somehow won most of his games, not sure about him though. But Killer, if he kept his nerves in check and worked on his strategical thinking, he might have been something.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
May 17 2012 09:25 GMT
#18


As always, I'm sad to see anyone retire, but at the end of the day if they're no longer enjoying it it's much better to move on with their lives.

I hope they find success and happiness in whatever they choose to pursue in the future. Farewell Brood War warriors.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
May 17 2012 09:26 GMT
#19
On May 17 2012 17:59 bgx wrote:
Ryo what your hunch tells you. Will there be more retirements?

It seems so.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 17 2012 09:28 GMT
#20
killer
When I think of something else, something will go here
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