• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:56
CET 10:56
KST 18:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
[BSL23] RO16 Group Stage14Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top?2Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23
StarCraft 2
General
Serral's getting trashed by New Catsle's Mind Weekly Cups (Nov 2-8): herO back on top? Liquibets sc2 season 30 No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon
Tourneys
soO & FanTaSy return! SC2 Kevin Scrim 4v4 (Nov 16) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament iNu's Battles #22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Starcraft 2 Advance [G] How to playtest arcade maps [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 551 Robotic Revival Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles
Brood War
General
List of top players active on ShieldBattery BW General Discussion [BSL23] RO16 Group Stage screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool [BW] Looking for Clan Thread!
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL23] Ro16 Group C - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL23] Ro16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll
Strategy
Infested Terran strategies in 2026 Nuke strategy worked in K-League 2026-11-09 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy)
Other Games
General Games
List of Game Threads The PlayStation 5 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Dating: How's your luck? US Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The time I organised my…
AssyrianKing
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 13992 users

Killer and Brave retire

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 8 9 10 Next All
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 00:59:58
May 17 2012 08:48 GMT
#1
Update

Killer left a message on his fancafe: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=338756

---------------------------------------------


[image loading]
[image loading]


Both (Z)Killer and (P)Brave's names were left out of the official rosters submitted to Kespa on 17th May for the upcoming Proleague season. Their retirements have been confirmed.

It seems that Killer had the desire to retire after last season and after getting knocked out of the ODT, that decision was confirmed. According to Coach Han, there were several reasons behind Killer's decision to retire, including a loss of interest in progaming, a cutback in his salary and concerns over when to enter the military.

Brave left Khan house during the off-season. Although the reason for his retirement was not given, he is expected to choose another career path. According to Fomos, there are fears that there will be further retirements in light of the changes made to the Proleague.


Source:
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=60517
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=60514
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=124533&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=124534&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=


This is pretty bad news. On 5th May, I noticed that Killer posted on facebook that he had returned to Chuncheon, which is his home town. That aroused my suspicions but I still hoped he hadn't taken the decision to retire. Unfortunately, it was true. This makes me quite sad. However, I did not see Brave's retirement coming at all.
All the best to both of them!

Brace yourselves BW fans.


Edit:
Killer
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 08:51:42
May 17 2012 08:51 GMT
#2
Bummer, i will never forget panicked Killer face from the game vs Boxer

Nah seriously bummer, he was a good player. And brave ;(

Male-toss. Farewell.
Stork[gm]
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium7221 Posts
May 17 2012 08:54 GMT
#3
looks like he not adapted to sc2 T_T
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
May 17 2012 08:55 GMT
#4
Killer noooo. His story was so touching...a countryside boy wanted to be a progamer and he finally made it.
ggaemo fan
Poetic[AoV]
Profile Joined November 2009
United Kingdom183 Posts
May 17 2012 08:56 GMT
#5
When there will be no more Broodwar, they took the honourable way out. They both had so much potential, especially Killer.
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
May 17 2012 08:56 GMT
#6
What babydong Nooooooooo!
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 17 2012 08:56 GMT
#7
If these are the only retirements It's not nearly as bad as I was expecting.

Still sad of course.
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
May 17 2012 08:57 GMT
#8
I kinda understand why Killer want to retire but Brave?
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 17 2012 08:58 GMT
#9
I guess by.hero's move to Team 8 makes sense now that Killer is gone.

But any retirement is sad. I will really miss mini-Dong.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
May 17 2012 08:59 GMT
#10
Ryo what your hunch tells you. Will there be more retirements?
Stork[gm]
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
May 17 2012 09:01 GMT
#11
The switch to SC2 is coming soon, players who aren't 100% motivated will find it very hard I think.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
May 17 2012 09:01 GMT
#12
Killer :<

I feel bad for the players. Their livelihood is ending and changing so quickly.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Reuental
Profile Joined July 2009
United States457 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 09:02:23
May 17 2012 09:02 GMT
#13
This will probably be the first of many retirements that we will see in the next coming months, with the pro BW scene ending and all, the good news is that he might be able to stream now.
I'm a Crab made of men.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
May 17 2012 09:02 GMT
#14
good luck guys and thank you for your games
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 09:10:31
May 17 2012 09:08 GMT
#15
On May 17 2012 18:02 Reuental wrote:
This will probably be the first of many retirements that we will see in the next coming months, with the pro BW scene ending and all, the good news is that he might be able to stream now.


He wouldn't retire to play SC 2 out of Kespa . It makes no sense , since it is the most established E - sports entity in the world. If he quit , because BW is on it's last leg , he has probably quit gaming for good .
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
May 17 2012 09:13 GMT
#16
Not the minidong And Brave was good too.

How many will go and follow their footsteps?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81288 <--- How I fell in love with a man, a team, a game and a website in a single day... | "There are no false gods, there is only the Emperor, and Choi Yun Sung is his prophet." -> Zona 40k
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
May 17 2012 09:15 GMT
#17
Both seemed really talented. Brave somehow won most of his games, not sure about him though. But Killer, if he kept his nerves in check and worked on his strategical thinking, he might have been something.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
May 17 2012 09:25 GMT
#18


As always, I'm sad to see anyone retire, but at the end of the day if they're no longer enjoying it it's much better to move on with their lives.

I hope they find success and happiness in whatever they choose to pursue in the future. Farewell Brood War warriors.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
May 17 2012 09:26 GMT
#19
On May 17 2012 17:59 bgx wrote:
Ryo what your hunch tells you. Will there be more retirements?

It seems so.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 17 2012 09:28 GMT
#20
killer
When I think of something else, something will go here
1 2 3 4 5 8 9 10 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko224
OGKoka 158
ProTech144
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 1842
Jaedong 716
Larva 163
Rush 93
Killer 75
EffOrt 69
Barracks 55
ZerO 36
Light 30
Hm[arnc] 22
[ Show more ]
Noble 17
Shine 16
Aegong 14
soO 14
Pusan 13
Terrorterran 4
Movie 3
Dota 2
monkeys_forever391
League of Legends
JimRising 427
Reynor74
Counter-Strike
fl0m3031
olofmeister783
shoxiejesuss388
allub365
Other Games
summit1g12525
ceh9590
crisheroes184
Mew2King146
XaKoH 141
ViBE70
KnowMe51
dupreeh17
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 0
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 22
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• ChaeLyn 5
• iopq 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2231
League of Legends
• Stunt725
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
5m
KCM Race Survival
5m
WardiTV Invitational
2h 5m
Lambo vs Shameless
Rogue vs uThermal
Percival vs YoungYakov
TBD vs GgMaChine
OSC
6h 5m
OSC
13h 5m
ArT vs MindelVK
MiniZergUA vs TBD
Shameless vs TBD
Ultimate Battle
1d 2h
OSC
1d 4h
OSC
1d 13h
ByuN vs MaxPax
herO vs Krystianer
Percival vs Shameless
LetaleX vs YoungYakov
Nicoract vs Gerald
GgMaChine vs ArT
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
2 days
TerrOr vs IJ_Terran
rasowy vs Hazorath
BSL
2 days
TerrOr vs OyAji
UltrA vs Gosudark
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
IPSL
3 days
Art_Of_Turtle vs KameZerg
Radley vs George
BSL
3 days
Artosis vs Dewalt
Ret vs Tech
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-11
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
Individual League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

YSL S4
Sector 591
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
StarCraft2 Weekly Open Tournament 2026 Grand Finals
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.