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On November 25 2011 17:22 Scarecrow wrote:
Having trouble deciding on a team too, woonjin seem like they have great depth and value at 3 pts. STX are terrible and barely worth 1, ACE at 0 seems the better bet. Speaking of ACE Kal and Great should be good value and will get alot of game time. It seems that players always perform well after their move to ace, at least for a while. Just look at ggaemo and fbh. Kal is too good not to earn 4 pts worth of value. Probably the best pickup this time around alongside the 6 p'ters Leta/Light/Soulkey if one of them catches fire.
Why not Best instead of Kal? He's likely to get almost as much game time and isn't in a slump. Plus he's on SKT1 so team points are a bonus.
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I've never picked my team considering current players strength. I picked, those who's playstyle I like, who's the most cutiest, my favourite players.
What is the point of making a super-duper winning team? The choices are so obvious, all you have to do is to choose the all-time workhorses of PL and enjoy the point flow. This at least will can guarantee good results in any case.
That is not my way, no.
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On November 25 2011 18:14 letian wrote:
I've never picked my team considering current players strength. I picked, those who's playstyle I like, who's the most cutiest, my favourite players.
What is the point of making a super-duper winning team? The choices are so obvious, all you have to do is to choose the all-time workhorses of PL and enjoy the point flow. This at least will can guarantee good results in any case.
That is not my way, no.
This will net you a solid performance. It's doubt-able you would win that way. In order to win you have to take gambles and go out on limbs about you think is going to do well. There are also not enough points to just gobble all the strong PL players.
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On November 25 2011 18:23 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 18:14 letian wrote:
I've never picked my team considering current players strength. I picked, those who's playstyle I like, who's the most cutiest, my favourite players.
What is the point of making a super-duper winning team? The choices are so obvious, all you have to do is to choose the all-time workhorses of PL and enjoy the point flow. This at least will can guarantee good results in any case.
That is not my way, no.
This will net you a solid performance. It's doubt-able you would win that way. In order to win you have to take gambles and go out on limbs about you think is going to do well. There are also not enough points to just gobble all the strong PL players.
Yeah agreed. You also need to get lucky. I don't see any point in just making personal fan picks and ending up with a bad team. FPL is a competition, of course you're meant to pick people you think are going to win. And @letian I don't think it's as easy as you say. To get a really good team usually takes me about 4 hours of pouring over their stats. If it was so simple, everyone would do it.
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On November 25 2011 18:14 letian wrote:
I've never picked my team considering current players strength. I picked, those who's playstyle I like, who's the most cutiest, my favourite players.
What is the point of making a super-duper winning team? The choices are so obvious, all you have to do is to choose the all-time workhorses of PL and enjoy the point flow. This at least will can guarantee good results in any case.
That is not my way, no.
High five! What's with all these people thinking logically and actually doing research and making practical choices that will help them win. Screw all that crap, man. I blew 18 points on Bisu and Stork and it was 100% worth it :D
+ Show Spoiler +inb4 they make me regret saying that
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Dear people who said Soulkey is a good choice: You're right. Even the first guy put in his big post about how good Soulkey is, I had reread what I said and thought "Wait a minute..." 
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Nice! It seems like putting light in my antiteam wasn',t a good decision 
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On November 26 2011 00:26 IGotPlayguuu wrote:Nice! It seems like putting light in my antiteam wasn',t a good decision
Heh yea I'd probably take a second look at that.
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On November 25 2011 18:23 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 18:14 letian wrote:
I've never picked my team considering current players strength. I picked, those who's playstyle I like, who's the most cutiest, my favourite players.
What is the point of making a super-duper winning team? The choices are so obvious, all you have to do is to choose the all-time workhorses of PL and enjoy the point flow. This at least will can guarantee good results in any case.
That is not my way, no.
This will net you a solid performance. It's doubt-able you would win that way. In order to win you have to take gambles and go out on limbs about you think is going to do well. There are also not enough points to just gobble all the strong PL players.
Yes , to win you have to think hard for your team, but attitude can be different.
Isn't it way cooler to actually pick the ones you always liked, not the ones you think will do well?
Actually I've picked:
Soulkey for cap
Leta <333
Baby <3
Shine <3
Wooki - WOOO!
Dear - kinda like him too since he was in OZ
No JD, sorry my friend, but I'm superstitious here, I think, that if I pick him, he will start slumping again, no(((
This is it, these are the players I like.
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I meant air force ace btw lol
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On November 25 2011 20:03 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 18:14 letian wrote:
I've never picked my team considering current players strength. I picked, those who's playstyle I like, who's the most cutiest, my favourite players.
What is the point of making a super-duper winning team? The choices are so obvious, all you have to do is to choose the all-time workhorses of PL and enjoy the point flow. This at least will can guarantee good results in any case.
That is not my way, no.
High five! What's with all these people thinking logically and actually doing research and making practical choices that will help them win. Screw all that crap, man. I blew 18 points on Bisu and Stork and it was 100% worth it :D + Show Spoiler +inb4 they make me regret saying that
Yeah. In the end, a lot of it comes down to luck, heh. Might as well put down my favorite players so that I'll never feel conflicted when cheering for them.
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@ letian: Fortunately I have a lot of my favourite players as well, especially HORANG FREAKING TWO! : )
and Taekwon: I had to look a long way back in the thread to see what you were talking about. :O But ye I thought maybe that's what you meant but ehh.
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On November 26 2011 01:41 letian wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 18:23 L_Master wrote:On November 25 2011 18:14 letian wrote:
I've never picked my team considering current players strength. I picked, those who's playstyle I like, who's the most cutiest, my favourite players.
What is the point of making a super-duper winning team? The choices are so obvious, all you have to do is to choose the all-time workhorses of PL and enjoy the point flow. This at least will can guarantee good results in any case.
That is not my way, no.
This will net you a solid performance. It's doubt-able you would win that way. In order to win you have to take gambles and go out on limbs about you think is going to do well. There are also not enough points to just gobble all the strong PL players. Yes , to win you have to think hard for your team, but attitude can be different. Isn't it way cooler to actually pick the ones you always liked, not the ones you think will do well?Actually I've picked: Soulkey for cap Leta <333 Baby <3 Shine <3 Wooki - WOOO! Dear - kinda like him too since he was in OZ No JD, sorry my friend, but I'm superstitious here, I think, that if I pick him, he will start slumping again, no((( This is it, these are the players I like.
I can understand why this would be fun but for me trying to make the best team is the most fun. I like pouring through players, their stats, records, match histories, etc. From there I try to construct who might do well and who might not do well. For me its extremely fun to try and predict who is going to play well; and trying to decide is this 8 point guy worth it over this 5 point guy who might be really, really good but could turn out to be mediocre.
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L_Master - I'm curious how well that works out for you? Like what kind of FPL results do you usually get? I mean, I agree with you entirely or I wouldn't of wrote this!
But I never done this before and usually have done that "pick randomly/guys you like" approach so I'm wondering. : )
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you're way off on killer. 60% win-rate in proleague since january 1, 2011.
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On November 26 2011 02:09 Bibbit wrote:L_Master - I'm curious how well that works out for you? Like what kind of FPL results do you usually get? I mean, I agree with you entirely or I wouldn't of wrote this! But I never done this before and usually have done that "pick randomly/guys you like" approach so I'm wondering. : )
Actually I have never done FPL before.
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On November 26 2011 02:18 KamMoye wrote:
you're way off on killer. 60% win-rate in proleague since january 1, 2011.
Fair enough, but you'll have to forgive me for remaining skeptical. I'll admit I haven't seen a ton of those games, but just looking at the names, I'm not overly impressed. Also of note is that a lot of those wins were on Icarus, which Killer was really good on for whatever reason. He was 14-7 on that map altogether. :O But yea that's a pretty respectable run against any level of opposition. : )
And L_Master: Nice ! Good luck. ^_^
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On November 26 2011 02:27 Bibbit wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 02:18 KamMoye wrote:
you're way off on killer. 60% win-rate in proleague since january 1, 2011. Fair enough, but you'll have to forgive me for remaining skeptical. I'll admit I haven't seen a ton of those games, but just looking at the names, I'm not overly impressed.
How can your opinion be credible at all if you just say ___ sucks while never watching his games?
You can't just base opinion off TLPD. Otherwise, you can say something ridiculous like Soulkey is awful at ZvT because his win percentage is below 50%.
You should actually start watching Killer's games because his play now tells a completely different story than what you are looking at in TLPD. (also need to drop the preconceived bias of him being bad from games forever ago as that Killer is not relevant to current Killer)
(if you want VOD links that better show his play now then say so)
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I threw Killer into my FPL team so many times and took him out. He will do well, I just couldn't find the space with him to make a more balanced team work.
This write up was pretty nice, but a little bit bias at the same time. I can't blame you for it though, you love some players and you hate some players. Thank you for your effort.
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On November 26 2011 06:06 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 02:27 Bibbit wrote:On November 26 2011 02:18 KamMoye wrote:
you're way off on killer. 60% win-rate in proleague since january 1, 2011. Fair enough, but you'll have to forgive me for remaining skeptical. I'll admit I haven't seen a ton of those games, but just looking at the names, I'm not overly impressed. How can your opinion be credible at all if you just say ___ sucks while never watching his games? You can't just base opinion off TLPD. Otherwise, you can say something ridiculous like Soulkey is awful at ZvT because his win percentage is below 50%. You should actually start watching Killer's games because his play now tells a completely different story than what you are looking at in TLPD. (also need to drop the preconceived bias of him being bad from games forever ago as that Killer is not relevant to current Killer) (if you want VOD links that better show his play now then say so)
Yeah obviously you're right. I would actually love if you posted me some games of him showing some sick play. Maybe one of each match up if you can? ZvT in particular I'd like to see a game against bio since I seen most of his vs mech games and know he's sick good at it. Also part of me knows the numbers aren't entirely fair, especially given how great I think Hydra's ZvT is despite lackluster numbers. I suppose I just goofed. : )
I have already conceded that I was unfair to Soulkey, but I should probably throw it in the OP or something !
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