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Proleague 2011-2012 Format - Page 14

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KING_Lori
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany4 Posts
November 17 2011 14:04 GMT
#261
Why the fuck is a BW News featured? For the 3 people who still watch BW?

User was banned for this post.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6811 Posts
November 17 2011 14:04 GMT
#262
hmmm people are blind . is true there is not grand final,There are two Grand Finals cuz two seasons -__-. and about the new format .is the only way that kt dont repeat champion.this flash is imba
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
November 17 2011 14:06 GMT
#263
On November 17 2011 23:04 KING_Lori wrote:
Why the fuck is a BW News featured? For the 3 people who still watch BW?


please don't feed the troll, seems like it's already been reported
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
November 17 2011 14:07 GMT
#264
Damn, that are some terrible changes. It's like instead of promoting BW in its dark days they are trying hard to kill it off for good with the worst format they could come with.

The tension right before and during Ace matches, the change of pace and star factor during Winners League and Grand Finals were literally the most awesome aspects of Proleague. Now two of these things are gone for good and the GF is gimped a little being just half a year thing.

I will wait and see how it turns out in the end, but I'm definitely not pleased with those changes...not with a single one.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2311 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 14:13:42
November 17 2011 14:09 GMT
#265
On November 17 2011 23:04 KING_Lori wrote:
Why the fuck is a BW News featured? For the 3 people who still watch BW?


Remove yourself from terran territory, you extraterrestrial bastard.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
gCgCrypto
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany297 Posts
November 17 2011 14:11 GMT
#266
@Grettin:
I kinda agree with your take on SC2 + Proleague.

I can´t however understand all this: "OH NO BW IS DEAD" stuff. I mean is it so dead that you are already counting how meny seasons are left? Yes BW will die eventually and i mean this should be no surprise to eny1. I´m just hoping that, if BW goes out, it does with a BANG! cuz the thought of having BW dying slowly and being rememberd as something unspectacular pains me. And i hope when BW is gone SC2 takes over its place more then eny other game.
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 14:17:37
November 17 2011 14:15 GMT
#267
On November 17 2011 23:11 gCgCrypto wrote:
@Grettin:
I kinda agree with your take on SC2 + Proleague.

I can´t however understand all this: "OH NO BW IS DEAD" stuff. I mean is it so dead that you are already counting how meny seasons are left? Yes BW will die eventually and i mean this should be no surprise to eny1. I´m just hoping that, if BW goes out, it does with a BANG! cuz the thought of having BW dying slowly and being rememberd as something unspectacular pains me. And i hope when BW is gone SC2 takes over its place more then eny other game.


Hey, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying anything about Broodwar dying(and especially wasn't counting how many seasons are left, at least intentionally). I'm just wondering since some/few of the "hardcore" viewers/followers in this thread seem to think the same i was thinking. I also wanted to ask if Korean netizens are already rumoring/speculating about the same thing.

Let me just say one thing again, even though these changes seem strange/stupid, Broodwar isn't dying just yet -- and i hope it won't.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
November 17 2011 14:16 GMT
#268
No Grand Final....sorry but that just stupid. Having an long build up to a climatic finish is great and without a final it becomes more of a team practice league instead of a full on competitive season.

Not really a supporter of the no ace match system; I guess I understand why they did it but I don't like it.

But, on the other hand: PROLEAGUE IS CONFIRMED!!!!
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
November 17 2011 14:19 GMT
#269
I think you guys miss the point. There is still a finals. There is just no grand final between the TWO individual season finals. -_-
VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
November 17 2011 14:20 GMT
#270
I'll put money in that Flash is a good reason why the format changes. He was called "child labor Terran" for a reason.

I get the feelimg that there is a motivation to lessen the burden for players, especially Aces. Ace matches means practicing multiple matchups for an extra map, Winner's League format means practicing miltiple maps. And of that wasn't enough, SL practice.
Woo Jung Ho, FIGHTING! | "With the death of BW comes the death of an idea. And that idea, held by many BW fans, was that a computer game could actually outlive the Next New Game cycle. And to some extent it did." -Falling
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
November 17 2011 14:23 GMT
#271
I don't see dates anywhere. Are they still not announced?
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
Keone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States812 Posts
November 17 2011 14:23 GMT
#272
No Grand Finals? No Ace Match?

WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!???!?! WHY!?!?!?!?!?!??! Did they ever BOTHER to even ask the fans???
BW Forever. Flash is the Ultimate Bonjwa.
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
November 17 2011 14:24 GMT
#273
On November 17 2011 23:23 Shinespark wrote:
I don't see dates anywhere. Are they still not announced?

PL is starting on the 26th.
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50632 Posts
November 17 2011 14:26 GMT
#274
On November 17 2011 23:23 Keone wrote:
No Grand Finals? No Ace Match?

WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!???!?! WHY!?!?!?!?!?!??! Did they ever BOTHER to even ask the fans???


ugh, why do I even bother.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
November 17 2011 14:26 GMT
#275
On November 17 2011 23:24 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 23:23 Shinespark wrote:
I don't see dates anywhere. Are they still not announced?

PL is starting on the 26th.


Thank you very much.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
LamaMitHut
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany187 Posts
November 17 2011 14:28 GMT
#276
will there be english streams?

otherwise i do not care, because i am bad at BW, and so i won´t understand a thing.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
November 17 2011 14:29 GMT
#277
On November 17 2011 23:28 LamaMitHut wrote:
will there be english streams?

otherwise i do not care, because i am bad at BW, and so i won´t understand a thing.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=286288 for the first time in bw history, you lucky man !
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
gCgCrypto
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany297 Posts
November 17 2011 14:30 GMT
#278
On November 17 2011 23:15 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 23:11 gCgCrypto wrote:
@Grettin:
I kinda agree with your take on SC2 + Proleague.

I can´t however understand all this: "OH NO BW IS DEAD" stuff. I mean is it so dead that you are already counting how meny seasons are left? Yes BW will die eventually and i mean this should be no surprise to eny1. I´m just hoping that, if BW goes out, it does with a BANG! cuz the thought of having BW dying slowly and being rememberd as something unspectacular pains me. And i hope when BW is gone SC2 takes over its place more then eny other game.


Hey, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying anything about Broodwar dying(and especially wasn't counting how many seasons are left, at least intentionally). I'm just wondering since some/few of the "hardcore" viewers/followers in this thread seem to think the same i was thinking. I also wanted to ask if Korean netizens are already rumoring/speculating about the same thing.

Let me just say one thing again, even though these changes seem strange/stupid, Broodwar isn't dying just yet -- and i hope it won't.


No nonono sorry the second part was not directed to you :D more to those posting be4 you. Sorry for not making it clear.
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
November 17 2011 14:31 GMT
#279
Looks like I have LOTS of things to say this week on my show after reading this thread. Might as well turn the rumor section into 'snm bias' section. rofl.
ppp
sinistral
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore859 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 14:31:59
November 17 2011 14:31 GMT
#280
On November 17 2011 23:23 Keone wrote:
Did they ever BOTHER to even ask the fans???


They did. There was a thread here a couple of weeks ago where someone translated that KeSPA did a poll asking the Korean netizens regarding how Proleague should be run in this coming season. IIRC, Bo5 was the leading option, but whether KeSPA did use the poll result for this coming season's Proleague format, we wouldn't know.
(´・ω・`)
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