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Page 23. If I see any more BW vs SC2 debate from that point on you will get banned.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 30 2011 14:08 GMT
#1221
Jaedong for ACE would be quite, quite interesting

Millitary dong having his position challenged
In the woods, there lurks..
malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-30 14:13:02
August 30 2011 14:11 GMT
#1222
will everyone stop talking about flash and jaedong switching to sc2! you know its like a slap in the face for people who love broodwar right?! I know it would be awesome to see what real talent looks like compared to the b teamers that are playing sc2 now though =p
dumchu
NEgroidZerg
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States244 Posts
August 30 2011 14:13 GMT
#1223
On August 30 2011 23:11 malady wrote:
will everyone stop talking about flash and jaedong switching to sc2! you know its like a slap in the face for people who love broodwar right?!


Would you rather they stop gaming altogether? to think BW will go on forever is a pipedream sadly...
Yeah
MFMulti
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden69 Posts
August 30 2011 14:31 GMT
#1224
Sad sad news =/
glhf ♥
UKSCgAn
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom57 Posts
August 30 2011 14:32 GMT
#1225
This sucks. I was never a big follower of BW, but eSports is eSports is eSports.

On the lighter side, the Flash killing BW bit made me lol.
MVP HWAITING!
r3z3nd3
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil522 Posts
August 30 2011 14:35 GMT
#1226
Good, now Jaedong can have better teammates
Born to fast expand
DataMiner
Profile Joined March 2011
United States104 Posts
August 30 2011 14:37 GMT
#1227
Flash too OP
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
August 30 2011 14:42 GMT
#1228
Oh god NO.

RIP OZ :[

I'll always love you and will always wear my jersey with proud.

Watching starcraft without a team to root for will suck :&
Roberi
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden347 Posts
August 30 2011 14:45 GMT
#1229
Well I never followed the BW scene but it is still sad to see such a big part of Esport history fading away.
A fan of ThorZaIN, MorroW, NaNiwa and SaSe. Sweden Fighting! /// @rob_eri
IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
August 30 2011 14:52 GMT
#1230
Another sad day for BW. Makes me a sad sad panda.
Forever Vulture.. :(
Weedk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States507 Posts
August 30 2011 14:56 GMT
#1231
On August 30 2011 21:46 kdgns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 21:43 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Jaedong to T1.


JD to KT is probably more likely, CJ probably has the money too... but I think its better if Oz, MBC, and Fox combine to form a new team under korean air, with a lineup like JD, Baby, Sea, roro, killer and Jaehoon as a lineup is pretty decent, hiya, shine, and mind can probably pull their weight too.


Korean Air would immediately be on the level of CJ, if not better.

I'm still keeping my Oz tag though.
qazwsx
Profile Joined August 2011
1 Post
August 30 2011 14:59 GMT
#1232
On August 30 2011 21:20 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Eh think i might get some hate mails for this one but to me this is kind of to be expected.

I mean the influx of new players from the foreign scene to BW is probably about as close to zero as it gets. I assume that very few young koreans start to pick up BW today as well. Hence are the pro players that are playing BW are most probably the last generation pro BW players.

Add to this that the falling numbers of viewers in Korea (so have I heard at least), and very much so in the rest of the world. I mean I know like 10 people that watch SC2 in Sweden, none of them watched BW before.

So we end up with a finite number of players and a dropping interest from the world. In the other corner we have SC2 that are growing like a wet sponge in both interest and in amount of prize pools. Thus BW is living on borrowed time at is more a question of when rather then if BW is going down.


Funny thing that the downfall of BW might to some extent actually threaten the development of SC2. If that BW players will dominate SC2 as much as many people believe (I have a more "I believe it when I see it approach") it will actually threaten the development of SC2 as the first large scale global esport.

A sport where one country completely dominate all other countries have never and will never be great. Thus the last thing SC2 needs is for Korea to become even more dominating, especially now when Europe is starting (imho ) to get at least a little bit closer to the Koreans. And although BW was large in Korea it really wasnt that great outside of it. I know this blasphemy according to the users of this forum but you might see that you are not to the most objective crowd in this matter. Given that this is the N1 (by far I would think) largest BW community in the foreign world.

It is like going to Manchester City and argue that United is the better team

User was temp banned for this post.


How or why would you temp ban someone for expressing this? Did he hurt your fragile feelings because most of it is generally true?

The gestapo mods of this site are the worst I've ever seen, many times I have failed to detect any reasonable rationale to most of their actions and the result is deterring people from posting what they think.

This is a general problem with many of the people that run this site- arrogance and indifference to its users.

Funnily enough, I only come here for broodwar, so once it dwindles I'll stick to GOM, MLG, wellplayed, S2casts etc- much more professional outfits with less ego crazy staff. Hopefully this site will eventually dissolve into a cultish elitist outback forum, while other sites begin to flourish.

Fail mods are fail. I'm looking forward to the ban, I even registered for it :D

xx


User was banned for this post.
pStar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
996 Posts
August 30 2011 15:00 GMT
#1233
On a scale of 1 to "fuck my life"

This rates "fuck my life"
bobwhiz
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States725 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-30 15:03:21
August 30 2011 15:01 GMT
#1234
On August 30 2011 23:59 qazwsx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 21:20 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Eh think i might get some hate mails for this one but to me this is kind of to be expected.

I mean the influx of new players from the foreign scene to BW is probably about as close to zero as it gets. I assume that very few young koreans start to pick up BW today as well. Hence are the pro players that are playing BW are most probably the last generation pro BW players.

Add to this that the falling numbers of viewers in Korea (so have I heard at least), and very much so in the rest of the world. I mean I know like 10 people that watch SC2 in Sweden, none of them watched BW before.

So we end up with a finite number of players and a dropping interest from the world. In the other corner we have SC2 that are growing like a wet sponge in both interest and in amount of prize pools. Thus BW is living on borrowed time at is more a question of when rather then if BW is going down.


Funny thing that the downfall of BW might to some extent actually threaten the development of SC2. If that BW players will dominate SC2 as much as many people believe (I have a more "I believe it when I see it approach") it will actually threaten the development of SC2 as the first large scale global esport.

A sport where one country completely dominate all other countries have never and will never be great. Thus the last thing SC2 needs is for Korea to become even more dominating, especially now when Europe is starting (imho ) to get at least a little bit closer to the Koreans. And although BW was large in Korea it really wasnt that great outside of it. I know this blasphemy according to the users of this forum but you might see that you are not to the most objective crowd in this matter. Given that this is the N1 (by far I would think) largest BW community in the foreign world.

It is like going to Manchester City and argue that United is the better team

User was temp banned for this post.


How or why would you temp ban someone for expressing this? Did he hurt your fragile feelings because most of it is generally true?

The gestapo mods of this site are the worst I've ever seen, many times I have failed to detect any reasonable rationale to most of their actions and the result is deterring people from posting what they think.

This is a general problem with many of the people that run this site- arrogance and indifference to its users.

Funnily enough, I only come here for broodwar, so once it dwindles I'll stick to GOM, MLG, wellplayed, S2casts etc- much more professional outfits with less ego crazy staff. Hopefully this site will eventually dissolve into a cultish elitist outback forum, while other sites begin to flourish.

Fail mods are fail. I'm looking forward to the ban, I even registered for it :D

xx


The original poster- if it's not you- will have a reason expressed to them (probably broodwar-sc2 debate). There's no gestapo on this website. The moderators are some of the best on the internet. People just don't like it when they're told that they don't have the right to express any opinion that they want.
Signatures are simply a cover for having no personality. -Kiante
elmoscousin
Profile Joined June 2010
United States30 Posts
August 30 2011 15:01 GMT
#1235
Nooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Brood War is hard T_T
Mashes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada441 Posts
August 30 2011 15:02 GMT
#1236
Hrm what will become of MustacheZerg, PirateZerg and the oft underrated OzSucksBallsWithoutMe
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery"
Weedk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States507 Posts
August 30 2011 15:04 GMT
#1237
On August 30 2011 23:59 qazwsx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 21:20 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Eh think i might get some hate mails for this one but to me this is kind of to be expected.

I mean the influx of new players from the foreign scene to BW is probably about as close to zero as it gets. I assume that very few young koreans start to pick up BW today as well. Hence are the pro players that are playing BW are most probably the last generation pro BW players.

Add to this that the falling numbers of viewers in Korea (so have I heard at least), and very much so in the rest of the world. I mean I know like 10 people that watch SC2 in Sweden, none of them watched BW before.

So we end up with a finite number of players and a dropping interest from the world. In the other corner we have SC2 that are growing like a wet sponge in both interest and in amount of prize pools. Thus BW is living on borrowed time at is more a question of when rather then if BW is going down.


Funny thing that the downfall of BW might to some extent actually threaten the development of SC2. If that BW players will dominate SC2 as much as many people believe (I have a more "I believe it when I see it approach") it will actually threaten the development of SC2 as the first large scale global esport.

A sport where one country completely dominate all other countries have never and will never be great. Thus the last thing SC2 needs is for Korea to become even more dominating, especially now when Europe is starting (imho ) to get at least a little bit closer to the Koreans. And although BW was large in Korea it really wasnt that great outside of it. I know this blasphemy according to the users of this forum but you might see that you are not to the most objective crowd in this matter. Given that this is the N1 (by far I would think) largest BW community in the foreign world.

It is like going to Manchester City and argue that United is the better team

User was temp banned for this post.


How or why would you temp ban someone for expressing this? Did he hurt your fragile feelings because most of it is generally true?

The gestapo mods of this site are the worst I've ever seen, many times I have failed to detect any reasonable rationale to most of their actions and the result is deterring people from posting what they think.

This is a general problem with many of the people that run this site- arrogance and indifference to its users.

Funnily enough, I only come here for broodwar, so once it dwindles I'll stick to GOM, MLG, wellplayed, S2casts etc- much more professional outfits with less ego crazy staff. Hopefully this site will eventually dissolve into a cultish elitist outback forum, while other sites begin to flourish.

Fail mods are fail. I'm looking forward to the ban, I even registered for it :D

xx


They also happen to own the site, so they can censor whatever they please at their discretion.

And you know, enforce that big warning at the top of the page?
StanzA
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada478 Posts
August 30 2011 15:05 GMT
#1238
I refuse to believe I read any of this.
oz fighting FOREVER! ~ hemlock.695 stanza.295~ root4root
ponzi
Profile Joined May 2011
65 Posts
August 30 2011 15:09 GMT
#1239
On August 30 2011 23:13 NEgroidZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 23:11 malady wrote:
will everyone stop talking about flash and jaedong switching to sc2! you know its like a slap in the face for people who love broodwar right?!


Would you rather they stop gaming altogether? to think BW will go on forever is a pipedream sadly...

They might as well switch to playing darts. Saying that it's better that they move to SC2 is no consolation. I couldn't care less about SC2. I wouldn't even if Jaedong and Flash played it.

And have you ever heard of solidarity? Of course I want to stick with Broodwar until the (possibly) bitter end. It has given me so much. Why abandon it now?
villageidiot
Profile Joined May 2009
353 Posts
August 30 2011 15:10 GMT
#1240
On August 30 2011 23:59 qazwsx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 21:20 4ZakeN87 wrote:
Eh think i might get some hate mails for this one but to me this is kind of to be expected.

I mean the influx of new players from the foreign scene to BW is probably about as close to zero as it gets. I assume that very few young koreans start to pick up BW today as well. Hence are the pro players that are playing BW are most probably the last generation pro BW players.

Add to this that the falling numbers of viewers in Korea (so have I heard at least), and very much so in the rest of the world. I mean I know like 10 people that watch SC2 in Sweden, none of them watched BW before.

So we end up with a finite number of players and a dropping interest from the world. In the other corner we have SC2 that are growing like a wet sponge in both interest and in amount of prize pools. Thus BW is living on borrowed time at is more a question of when rather then if BW is going down.


Funny thing that the downfall of BW might to some extent actually threaten the development of SC2. If that BW players will dominate SC2 as much as many people believe (I have a more "I believe it when I see it approach") it will actually threaten the development of SC2 as the first large scale global esport.

A sport where one country completely dominate all other countries have never and will never be great. Thus the last thing SC2 needs is for Korea to become even more dominating, especially now when Europe is starting (imho ) to get at least a little bit closer to the Koreans. And although BW was large in Korea it really wasnt that great outside of it. I know this blasphemy according to the users of this forum but you might see that you are not to the most objective crowd in this matter. Given that this is the N1 (by far I would think) largest BW community in the foreign world.

It is like going to Manchester City and argue that United is the better team

User was temp banned for this post.


How or why would you temp ban someone for expressing this? Did he hurt your fragile feelings because most of it is generally true?

The gestapo mods of this site are the worst I've ever seen, many times I have failed to detect any reasonable rationale to most of their actions and the result is deterring people from posting what they think.

This is a general problem with many of the people that run this site- arrogance and indifference to its users.

Funnily enough, I only come here for broodwar, so once it dwindles I'll stick to GOM, MLG, wellplayed, S2casts etc- much more professional outfits with less ego crazy staff. Hopefully this site will eventually dissolve into a cultish elitist outback forum, while other sites begin to flourish.

Fail mods are fail. I'm looking forward to the ban, I even registered for it :D

xx



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