• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:35
CEST 04:35
KST 11:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview7[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Progenitors8Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun13[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16
Community News
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results1Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !11Weekly Cups (April 27-May 4): Clem takes triple0RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event12
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results MaNa leaves Team Liquid Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win Code S Season 1 - RO8 Preview Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 2 Qualifiers Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! $5,000 WardiTV Spring Championship 2026 SC2 INu's Battles#16 <BO.9> Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 524 Death and Taxes Mutation # 523 Firewall
Brood War
General
vespene.gg — BW replays in browser Pros React to: TvT Masterclass in FlaSh vs Light ASL21 Strategy, Pimpest Plays Discussions Flashes ASL S21 Ro8 Review BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL21] Semifinals B [ASL21] Semifinals A [BSL22] RO8 Bracket Stage + Another TieBreaker Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game PC Games Sales Thread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How EEG Data Can Predict Gam…
TrAiDoS
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1679 users

Hwaseung Oz reported to disband - Page 60

Forum Index > BW General
1706 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 58 59 60 61 62 86 Next
Page 23. If I see any more BW vs SC2 debate from that point on you will get banned.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 30 2011 11:54 GMT
#1181
MY WORLD!
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
August 30 2011 12:00 GMT
#1182
On August 30 2011 20:49 Ikonn wrote:
^ yeah that's a crazy team and you forgot Jaehoon. But I think no sponsor would be willing to pay the wages that team would demand and most of those players wouldn't like getting benched


i didn't forget jaehoon, i'm kind of guessing he retires :p

i wouldn't think a huge number of them apart from jaedong would be on stupid money? there's quite a few youngish kids in that list that wouldn't be on too much salary, and i don't think the likes of shine/killer/hiya would really be that expensive. i'm sure for the good of brood war they might take a pay cut rather than effectively risk being made redundant if needed
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
worosei
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia198 Posts
August 30 2011 12:01 GMT
#1183
lol, SKT1 buy up Jaedong!
... maybe there'll be a chance of beating KT....if there is ever another finals

Else i see an influx of bw players moving to SC2?
blahblahblahwhatever
Profile Joined June 2011
Armenia52 Posts
August 30 2011 12:02 GMT
#1184
The other teams will rally to pick Jaedong up right?
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
August 30 2011 12:05 GMT
#1185
On August 30 2011 21:02 blahblahblahwhatever wrote:
The other teams will rally to pick Jaedong up right?

Jaedong comes with a hefty price tag ^^
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3759 Posts
August 30 2011 12:06 GMT
#1186
Jaedong to CJ. The power of the Zergs! Hydra, Effort and Jaedong could swarm any lineup!
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
August 30 2011 12:11 GMT
#1187
On August 30 2011 21:06 nimdil wrote:
Jaedong to CJ. The power of the Zergs! Hydra, Effort and Jaedong could swarm any lineup!


Strange to see a Khan fan posting such an opinion, seeing how there is no team as desperate for zergs as Khan.
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5600 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-30 12:20:12
August 30 2011 12:17 GMT
#1188
This is not happening. I refuse to believe it. It is not happening.

I guess we will get some kind of confirmation tomorrow. But I refuse to believe this.

If this is true, my plan is to rewatch the Batoo osl finals and get very very drunk.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Deathfate
Profile Joined November 2008
Spain555 Posts
August 30 2011 12:17 GMT
#1189
This is horrible news... im very sad
Feel the power of the zerg swarm.
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-30 12:29:43
August 30 2011 12:20 GMT
#1190
Eh think i might get some hate mails for this one but to me this is kind of to be expected.

I mean the influx of new players from the foreign scene to BW is probably about as close to zero as it gets. I assume that very few young koreans start to pick up BW today as well. Hence are the pro players that are playing BW are most probably the last generation pro BW players.

Add to this that the falling numbers of viewers in Korea (so have I heard at least), and very much so in the rest of the world. I mean I know like 10 people that watch SC2 in Sweden, none of them watched BW before.

So we end up with a finite number of players and a dropping interest from the world. In the other corner we have SC2 that are growing like a wet sponge in both interest and in amount of prize pools. Thus BW is living on borrowed time at is more a question of when rather then if BW is going down.


Funny thing that the downfall of BW might to some extent actually threaten the development of SC2. If that BW players will dominate SC2 as much as many people believe (I have a more "I believe it when I see it approach") it will actually threaten the development of SC2 as the first large scale global esport.

A sport where one country completely dominate all other countries have never and will never be great. Thus the last thing SC2 needs is for Korea to become even more dominating, especially now when Europe is starting (imho ) to get at least a little bit closer to the Koreans. And although BW was large in Korea it really wasnt that great outside of it. I know this blasphemy according to the users of this forum but you might see that you are not to the most objective crowd in this matter. Given that this is the N1 (by far I would think) largest BW community in the foreign world.

It is like going to Manchester City and argue that United is the better team

User was temp banned for this post.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
August 30 2011 12:20 GMT
#1191
so sad

young ho
mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
August 30 2011 12:26 GMT
#1192
Unconfirmed, source plu

Kal and Pure applied for ACE.

ACE for PL 2012?
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
August 30 2011 12:27 GMT
#1193
On August 30 2011 21:26 mmdmmd wrote:
Unconfirmed, source plu

Kal and Pure applied for ACE.

ACE for PL 2012?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=260710
mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
August 30 2011 12:28 GMT
#1194
On August 30 2011 21:27 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2011 21:26 mmdmmd wrote:
Unconfirmed, source plu

Kal and Pure applied for ACE.

ACE for PL 2012?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=260710


Thanks and appologies to all. I didn't know about that thread
zyce
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States649 Posts
August 30 2011 12:29 GMT
#1195
Terrible terrible news.
Beauty is not the goal of competitive sports, but high-level sports are a prime venue for the expression of human beauty. The relation is roughly that of courage to war.
Winterfrozz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden357 Posts
August 30 2011 12:37 GMT
#1196
On August 30 2011 21:17 Deathfate wrote:
This is horrible news... im very sad


Agree ... wtf.
Jazzi!
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-30 12:44:48
August 30 2011 12:43 GMT
#1197
Jaedong to T1.

Well it kinda makes sense to me because Hwaesung Oz is actually Ideal Space if I'm not mistaken, the first clan/team that Boxer joined before making 4Union with Oov, Rainbow, and some other guys.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Fushin
Profile Joined June 2010
France193 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-30 12:50:49
August 30 2011 12:45 GMT
#1198
Edit : I was thinking about Stork leaving for Ace too (he's quite old now), but i just found out that interview he gave last week, so we're safe on that account
BUT Great left Khan for Ace, so we definately need to buy Killer and/or Jaedong.
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
August 30 2011 12:46 GMT
#1199
This is sad news, must be so bad for the Oz fans out there. Will be interesting to see were Jaedong will end up.
( ̄。 ̄)~zzz ◕ ◡ ◕
kdgns
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2427 Posts
August 30 2011 12:46 GMT
#1200
On August 30 2011 21:43 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Jaedong to T1.


JD to KT is probably more likely, CJ probably has the money too... but I think its better if Oz, MBC, and Fox combine to form a new team under korean air, with a lineup like JD, Baby, Sea, roro, killer and Jaehoon as a lineup is pretty decent, hiya, shine, and mind can probably pull their weight too.
Prev 1 58 59 60 61 62 86 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Amantes de StarCraft 2 #44
CranKy Ducklings85
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft324
RuFF_SC2 137
Ketroc 36
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 6734
Aegong 91
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm144
League of Legends
Doublelift13066
summit1g11436
Counter-Strike
taco 603
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox615
Other Games
tarik_tv6208
JimRising 496
C9.Mang0424
monkeys_forever305
WinterStarcraft257
Artosis241
ViBE146
Maynarde130
Livibee67
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 23
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP33
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2916
League of Legends
• Scarra880
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
7h 25m
Classic vs Solar
herO vs SHIN
OSC
10h 25m
Big Brain Bouts
13h 25m
sebesdes vs Iba
Percival vs YoungYakov
Reynor vs GgMaChine
Korean StarCraft League
1d
RSL Revival
1d 7h
Clem vs Rogue
Bunny vs Lambo
IPSL
1d 13h
Dewalt vs nOmaD
Ret vs Cross
BSL
1d 16h
Bonyth vs Doodle
Dewalt vs TerrOr
GSL
2 days
Cure vs herO
SHIN vs Maru
IPSL
2 days
Bonyth vs Napoleon
G5 vs JDConan
BSL
2 days
OyAji vs JDConan
DragOn vs TBD
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
GSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-05-13
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
KK 2v2 League Season 1
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
Escore Tournament S2: W7
SCTL 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2

Upcoming

YSL S3
Escore Tournament S2: W8
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.