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[OSL] Legacy of the Kkong

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supernovamaniac
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Last Edited: 2011-01-27 08:05:47
January 27 2011 08:01 GMT
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The supernovamaniac/blahman3344 combo is back. We’re still trying to write better analysis, but practice makes everything better (just like translations).

Prequel:

1998

supernovamaniac starts playing starcraft, but cannot beat his dad’s infinite field of cannons. T_T

2001

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StarCraft begins to gain attention in Korea. With many players emerging and fans cheering on, two people gained the most attention: BoxeR and YellOw. At the 2001 Coca-Cola finals, YellOw was defeated by BoxeR. Thus, the history began.

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Though YellOw won 8 leagues to this date, every one of them have been considered as an ‘event league.’ He achieved 2nd place in Coca-Cola Starleague 2001, 2002 KPGA Tour (before it was renamed to MSL), 2nd KPGA tour of the same year, 2003 Olympus Starleague, and 2003 TG Sambo MSL. 5 2nd place finishes. 0 first place finish. Thus, the Kkongline was borm.

For those of you who don’t know what Kkongline is, here’s the definition from Wikipedia:

“Players who play exceptionally well but never won a final” (There is one exception to this, which will be dealt later)

Though these players do not share the exact same virus with YellOw (no one can currently carry-on the curse of 2. Only YellOw himself can carry the curse), they are pretty close.




These are the current Kkongline members:

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1. YellOw: The leader, the founder, the captain. 5 2nd place wins in individual leagues. Beat Bisu (KeSPA 2nd place at the time) on Heartbreak Ridge, 2nd game for YellOW after he joined the match, rushed at 2:22 PM to win the match. 2nd most OSL wins (A match, so called). Received a train ticket for the 22nd, 2nd car 22nd seat.

There are many more interesting facts, but those will be skipped for now.

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2. Stork. The Commander. One of Taek-Bang-Lee-Ssang members, and the current leader of the TBLS age. Yet, he has won 2nd place three times. He lost once to each of the other TBLS member, including crushing losses to Flash and Jaedong in OSL. Though he did win Incruit Starleague 2008, Stork is still considered the true heir of the Kkongline.

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3. Fantasy. The terrorist. The royal road contender who eliminated many top players. However, he was stopped by Stork in the finals. Many fans believed this to be Fantasy’s induction into the Kkongline. Though he did make the finals again in Batoo OSL, he was reverse swept by Jaedong. This was believed to be his first task as the new Kkongline member, as he could’ve easily BBS’d his way to his victory.

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4. Jangbi. The Almighty. One of the ‘6 dragons.’ Despite his amazing Proleague matches (and his amazing storms), he didn’t do well in the individual leagues. He finally made the finals in ClubDay MSL when he defeated Stork and Kal consecutively to reach the finals. However, he was destroyed by an in-shape Bisu 1-3 (but then again, Bisu’s one loss was attributed to his own failure moreso than Jangbi’s skill). His silver-streak continued when he met Luxury in the Lost Saga MSL and lost 1-3.





So “What does the legacy of the Kkong have to do with anything?” you may ask.

Well, let’s look back at what happened in Bacchus OSL 2010

It’s been a wild ride. Everyone said that Flash’s domination was so huge that they were assuming StarCraft has reached its limit. Flash is God. Flash is unbeatable.

Yet, during the Round of 16, Flash gets knocked out from his group, thanks to Kal, Hyuk, and small sabotage from Paralyze.

Jaedong, who was confident that he’ll do great in this season and feed Hiya some Magikarp Bread, was humiliated when he had to play Hiya’s drum and get eliminated from Round of 16.

No Flash-Jaedong in Round of 8. Last 2 times they were in Round of 16, one of the knocked the other out (and by that I mean Flash killed Jaedong two times). They were untouchable. Yet, now we have Flash-Jaedong-less OSL.

With those two players gone, few other players were favored to win.

1. Stork - His games were amazing for past few weeks, and he’s been keeping it up
2. Fantasy - Removing Stork from the picture, Fantasy has the greatest potential to win this OSL with his terrorist vultures
3. Kal - Protoss of the year, and removed Flash from the OSL

Unfortunately, Kal couldn’t teamkill and was dropped out of OSL at Round of 8.

After few weeks of intense battles, drinking Bacchus, and chanting ‘SONG BYONG GU’ we have our final match of the season.

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The re-match of Incruit OnGamenet Starleague. More importantly,


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What’s at stake. This isn’t actually the “Silver Mouse” but its the closest thing we could find. Cut us some slack. TT





<Maps>
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Let’s talk about stats.

Bacchus OSL TvP: 6-14
Stork’s PvT: 5-1
Fantasy’s TvP: 1-0

Map stats (for OSL):
Aztec TvP: 5-1
Gladiator TvP: 2-5
Pathfinder TvP: 3-4
Icarus TvP: 1-0

Though Stork has whooping PvT record this season, his only loss was on Icarus to Hiya, whom he beat later in the series 2-1. Fantasy, who only played one TvP this season, won in Gladiator which seems heavily Protoss-favored based on the records.

Extra analysis on Aztec and Icarus:

Aztec TvP: 13-28
Icarus TvP: 18-15
(Overall Stats)

Though Icarus’s record is somewhat balanced, Aztec is heavily Protoss-favored.




supernovamaniac’s thoughts:


Set 1 - Gladiator:


Stats do say that this is Protoss favored map. I was very surprised to see this actually for few reasons. I believed that having many ridges around the map itself plus expos near the ridges would give Terran some advantage due to sieged tanks. I guess that’s not the situation however, as Protoss is leading Terran 5:2 on this map.

After reanalyzing the map, I realized that I missed the most important feature of the map.

Although the ridges go around the map connecting every bases and such, the path through the middle virtually takes you anywhere you want in an instant. It’s easy for zealots to take one route while the goons take the other route, and then sandwich the Terran forces instantly.

Anyways, taking one of the ridges will give you an advantage, as you can ‘almost’ safely take an expo at 12, 3, 6, and 9. I said ‘almost’ because the path to the expo is low-ground, meaning the units can go around through the center easily.

To be honest, I think Set 1 have one of the better matches of the series. Though Protoss is favored on this map, the uniqueness allows so many different ways to fight. The person who utilizes this the most will win the match.

And the person who would play better with that style, in my opinion, is Stork. Sure, Fantasy has the vulture terror, but that will only kill probes, not the entire army.

However, it’s still anyone’s game. I say Stork, but we’ll have to see what happens.


Set 2 - Aztec:


Aztec has a large center area, just good enough for any decent/large Protoss army to have a good fight with slight concave. However, I would rather emphasize on the structure of the ridges, walls, and ramps.

This is definitely carrier map. First of all, if you haven’t seen Kal vs Flash, watch it now. Even as Flash, the master of anti-carrier, tried to finish Kal off with mass goliath, he wasn’t able to (the fact that he didn’t have +2 attack range didn’t help either, since Flash couldn’t melt away Kal’s interceptors).

It’s really easy for carriers to attack one place and then runaway without getting severely damaged. Take 4 main and the natural for example. If Terran takes the natural expo but does not places units on 6, then it is a really easy way for carriers to eat away the command center, as well as anything else in the way (also notice how the gas is placed really close to the wall). When goliath arrive, the carriers can just runaway left, or even better, stay in the gray area so that Terran cannot attack (of course, without scan).

This applies to pretty much every base on this map, except for the 3 expansions that are located off-ramp.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Stork goes Reaver-Carrier on this map to finish off Fantasy.

However, I also believe this is one of the maps where Fantasy will bring out his teacher’s specialized build (oov). This is one map that if Fantasy wins, he will have a huge advantage, both statistically and psychologically.

Still, I see Stork taking Set 2.


Set 3 - Pathfinder:


This is an interesting map. While the map has a center that allows players for huge fights, it also has an outside ring that players can go around, while taking expos. Think of it as Outsider SE without any mineral wall, and with very close air distances.

The center is huge, but not huge enough for Protoss to have a good 200/200 fight straight on. However, the Y-shaped center allows Protoss players to flank from the both sides to the one small path. Flanking the units from the back might be a good idea, but those might get caught when the additional units come out (such as zealot tries to get to the tanks by going around the map, but the additional vultures wipe out the zealots, or the Terran sandwich might fail when additional dragoons/zealots come out from Protoss’s main).

Key point in this map will be position and the strategy. Position for the reasons above, and the strategy because of the really close air distances. Carrier will be useful early on since the distances between the bases are really close, but it will be hard to use them late game since the map is very open.

This map will be purely based on the player’s skills. Better player will win this map. At this rate, I would say that the better player is Stork, so I’m guessing that he will take Set 3. This is however anyone’s game. Reaver vs Vulture terror.


Set 4 - Icarus:


If we happen to end up in Icarus, Fantasy should have an advantage on this map. The incorporation of the bridges make it slightly Terran favored, plus the small areas, including the center, makes it hard for Protoss to flank if they are not prepared. Timing pushes can be deadly if not scouted properly.

The path to the third expos have a long, somewhat narrow bridge leading up to the ramp. Unless Protoss micros properly or has massive amounts, it might be hard for Protoss to take down Terran’s 3rd. Likewise, the small bridge makes it perfect for killing off Protoss’s 3rd, if the terrain is used properly.

Mass recall can work for Protoss’s favor, but that’s if the Protoss can land a recall. Due to the terrain, there are limited areas where Protoss can safely recall for each base. Arbiter stasis is good, but due to small fighting ground, a well casted stasis can work against Protoss as it becomes a wall between zealots and sieged tanks.

If Stork has something up his sleeve, we should see it here. Otherwise, Fantasy takes Set 4.


Set 5 - Gladiator


If we end up in Set 5, then both players will have to brace themselves. It’s the final match. There’s no turning back. One failed cheese will send you back to the Kkongline, but succeeding with the cheese will give you one way ticket to heaven.

Though same analysis applies from the Set 1 analysis, it’s likely that we’ll see interesting timing builds by both players (most likely Fantasy however, since oov gives Fantasy all these amazing builds).

This fight will not be easy. Both players will not back down until completely crushed and demolished.




blahman’s thoughts:


Gladiator: This map is favored towards Protoss, and for a good reason. The map is laid out with a lot on high-ground ridges, but it also has a lot of connecting paths that meet in the middle. This means that a Terran can’t just straight-up push, because the Protoss army has many round-about routes to travel to avoid the Terran army. Knowing Stork’s PvT prowess, he will probably abuse this and give Fantasy a run for his money. My prediction is that Stork will take both games on Gladiator (should it get to game 5).


Aztec:Neither Stork nor Fantasy played many PvTs/TvPs on Aztec, so I can’t really make a judgement off that. Instead, I will just go with the stats (and some map analysis) and say that Stork will win on Aztec. The middle is big enough so that the Protoss army can get a decent concave on the Terran army, and it’s pretty hard for Terran to expand past their 4th base, should it ever get to that point.


Pathfinder: A more balanced PvT/TvP map, but still somewhat favored towards Protoss. Again, with this map, there are round-about routes to avoid the Terran army, but this time they’re much narrower, and a lot more manageable for the Terran. However, due to the close air-distances, this will make drop play highly-encouraged for both players. I imagine that Stork will do a reaver build on this map, as he has had success with it before.


Icarus: If Fantasy had a map where he should have an advantage, it would be Icarus. With a lean towards terran-favored, Icarus seems like it would be the map where Fantasy could win. Icarus has a lot of small bridges and a relatively small center, so it’s a decent for a defensive Terran to play. Also, timing pushes would be very deadly as there is little room for the Protoss to maneuver around if they are unprepared. Ultimately, I think Fantasy will take this.



supernovamaniac’s score guess: Fantasy 2 - 3 Stork. I see Stork losing one of Set 1 or Set 3, and Set 4. Though I expect Stork 3-1, Fantasy has a good advantage on Set 4 with Icarus. Either way, I see Stork taking the gold this time around.

blahman’s outcome prediction: Looking at current performances, and the map ordering, Stork will take this either 3-0 or 3-2.




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You know you want to lose~



Who will join YellOw as the true successor of the Kkongline? Who will use his opponent as the sacrifice to get out of the Kkongline?






Poll: Who will win?

Stork 3 : 1 Fantasy (163)
 
26%

Fantasy 3 : 2 Stork (146)
 
23%

Stork 3 : 2 Fantasy (127)
 
20%

Fantasy 3 : 0 Stork (81)
 
13%

Stork 3 : 0 Fantasy (68)
 
11%

Fantasy 3 : 1 Stork (48)
 
8%

633 total votes

Your vote: Who will win?

(Vote): Fantasy 3 : 0 Stork
(Vote): Fantasy 3 : 1 Stork
(Vote): Fantasy 3 : 2 Stork
(Vote): Stork 3 : 0 Fantasy
(Vote): Stork 3 : 1 Fantasy
(Vote): Stork 3 : 2 Fantasy






Bacchus OnGamenet StarLeague 2010 Finals
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(T)By.Fantasy vs (P)Stork[gm]

Live English Commentary by Sayle. Live English Translation by supernovamaniac


Saturday 29th, 18:00 KST

Channel: OGN

Streams will be provided on the day of. Please check the LR thread





P.S. And yes. YellOw will be there to crown his successor.
ppp
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
January 27 2011 08:02 GMT
#2
HYPE HYPE HYPE
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anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
January 27 2011 08:09 GMT
#3
stork 3:2.
nice write up
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
January 27 2011 08:09 GMT
#4
I've always wondered, what does the word Kong mean?
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
January 27 2011 08:11 GMT
#5
Stork is going to 3-0 fantasy and then 4-0 flash in a BO7 show match they'll play after the match because the finals were over so quick. Then he'll become president of korea, and soon the dictator of the entire world, finally stepping into his new role as bonjwa of the universe.
Writer
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
January 27 2011 08:18 GMT
#6
Lol kiante, obviously.

Nice hype SNM! Much appreciated!
화이팅
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
January 27 2011 08:19 GMT
#7
On January 27 2011 17:09 Ryo wrote:
I've always wondered, what does the word Kong mean?

It's the nickname of Yellow. It means "bean", and I believe people started calling him that because of his height.

Korean Starcraft fans make fun of Yellow for being unable to win a silver, and "to make fun of" in crude Korean is to "gga". Therefore, to make fun of Yellow would be to "gga" the "kong". Interestingly, "gga" also has the meaning of "to peel", as in to peel the skin off a bean. "Kong gga ji ma", which literally means "Don't peel the bean", or "Don't make fun of Kong", is one of the most popular and common memes in Korean internet.

It's also a reason why Yellow is far more popular than Boxer in Korea.
웅진 멘쓰즈
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
January 27 2011 08:23 GMT
#8
^ Ah I see. I knew it was Yellow's nickname but never knew the explanation behind. Thanks for explaining!
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
January 27 2011 08:24 GMT
#9
On January 27 2011 17:18 XsebT wrote:
Lol kiante, obviously.

Nice hype SNM! Much appreciated!

dont you lol me i only speak the truth
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OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
January 27 2011 08:28 GMT
#10
콩까지마 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
A true heir shall be crowned.
Predicting 3-1. Who 3-1 who? You know me. =P
[TLMS] REBOOT
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
January 27 2011 08:28 GMT
#11
poll needs a "I only came for the kong" option
starleague forever
doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
January 27 2011 08:33 GMT
#12
It's the Kong's curse that Fantasy is only good at TWO matchups, while Stork is only good at TWO matchups at any given time.
웅진 멘쓰즈
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
January 27 2011 08:39 GMT
#13
so much hype. oh my god i'm pumped. Stork has this imo, maps + beatdown.

I'm still loling at the idea of a silver mouse.
~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
January 27 2011 08:40 GMT
#14
Woah, huge thread, lots of effort put into providing the predictions

And English stream available too. Amazing.

"peeling the bean lol" ><

I have no preferences to whoever wins, just want an awesome final like Batoo OSL.

Is there really going to be a silver mouse? What if you win 5 silvers? Can't wait to see what it's like.
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
January 27 2011 08:43 GMT
#15
On January 27 2011 17:01 supernovamaniac wrote:
P.S. And yes. YellOw will be there to crown his successor.


Rofl epic! Good read keep it up y0!
MBCGame HERO FIGHTING!!!~
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-27 08:45:44
January 27 2011 08:43 GMT
#16
Great read. I'm excited about Yellow coming out to crown his true heir. Ah, I can imagine the lulz already vividly in my head.

*Winner holding up trophy triumphantly and grinning widely for 1st place*
*Loser walks out of booth dejectedly, then suddenly sees a small figure emerge from the darkness*
Yellow: "...Looks like you're the lucky one to join me.... Forever!!" *Holds up a silver crown and mouse with an evil grin*
The loser: "AHHHHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOO MY WORST NIGHTMAAAAAAARE-"

This isn't a battle about winning the gold; this is a deathmatch about who will be the one to escape the dreaded Kong Line. May the best silver surfer win.
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
tabula rasa
Profile Joined December 2010
360 Posts
January 27 2011 08:45 GMT
#17
I think Fantasy will take this one. Part of my reason for thinking so comes actually from his MSL match against Flash last year. Fantasy played the series of his life on that day, and I think that experience has helped him get better here. Stork hasn't played a match like that in a long time.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
January 27 2011 08:47 GMT
#18
yadda yadda yadda yadda

Thanks for the writeup :D

SONG BYUNG GOO!
In the woods, there lurks..
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
January 27 2011 08:50 GMT
#19
lol, i was wondering who supernovamaniac was until i finished reading the whole thing and saw the poster's name.
Brood War loyalist
Corrupt
Profile Joined August 2009
Bulgaria1312 Posts
January 27 2011 08:50 GMT
#20
Great write up! The shopped Fantasy picture is pure GOLD.
Just a guy trying to enjoy living in the worst timeline and failing miserably since 1990.
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