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[spoilers] OSL repeat sponsor curse

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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 24 2010 15:19 GMT
#1
Currently, we're on our 11th OSL that's sponsored by a company that sponsored a previous OSL. This will also be the 10th of those OSLs that doesn't have a winner that won a previous OSL sponsored by that company, the 9th that doesn't have a previous winner in the Ro4, and the 7th that doesn't have a previous winner in the Ro8.

SKY 2001: Garimto wins
SKY 2002: Garimto out in Ro16

EVER 2004: iloveoov wins
EVER 2005: July wins, iloveoov out in Ro8
EVER 2007: Jaedong wins, July out in Ro16, oov not present.
*EVER 2008: July repeats, Jaedong and oov not present.
EVER 2009: Flash wins, Jaedong out in Ro8, July and oov not present.

Shinhan 05: iloveoov wins
Shinhan 06-1: Casy wins, iloveoov out in Ro24
Shinhan 06-2: Nada wins, Casy out in Ro24, oov not present
*Shinhan 06-3: Savior wins over Nada, Casy out in Ro4, oov out in Ro16.

Korean Air S1: Effort wins
Korean Air S2: Flash wins, Effort out in Ro16

Bacchus 08: Flash wins
Bacchus 09: Jaedong wins, Flash out in Ro16
Bacchus 10: Flash and Jaedong out in Ro16

Interestingly enough, all four times the MSL had a repeat sponsor a previous winner under that sponsor got to the Ro4.
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
December 24 2010 15:31 GMT
#2
...Okay, that's weird.

So basically, if Bacchus keeps sponsoring the OSL, Jaedong and Flash will never win another title.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
kdgns
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2427 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 15:37:26
December 24 2010 15:37 GMT
#3
On December 25 2010 00:31 Musoeun wrote:
...Okay, that's weird.

So basically, if Bacchus keeps sponsoring the OSL, Jaedong and Flash will never win another title.


Nada sitting pretty laughing with his most titles record, not this season!
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
December 24 2010 15:46 GMT
#4
...There's always the MSL. Jaedong's still in that one, right?
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
December 24 2010 15:54 GMT
#5
On December 25 2010 00:31 Musoeun wrote:
...Okay, that's weird.

So basically, if Bacchus keeps sponsoring the OSL, Jaedong and Flash will never win another title.


If Shinhan and EVER are anything to go by, the fourth time is an exception but no other times are exceptions.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50898 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 16:01:03
December 24 2010 15:59 GMT
#6
I was wondering this myself......The OSL will always be cursed I guess.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
December 24 2010 16:13 GMT
#7
Not only that but the Gods do not want any player to have 4 OSL titles.
remag
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany354 Posts
December 24 2010 16:28 GMT
#8
Dont worry Stork will win OSL and MSL or he gets silver again.
GWBushJr
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada35 Posts
December 24 2010 16:42 GMT
#9
Someone needs 2 / 4 more titles to get a Platinum and Diamond mouse...
iw-darins888
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada32 Posts
December 24 2010 17:00 GMT
#10
On December 25 2010 01:28 remag wrote:
Dont worry Stork will win OSL and MSL or he gets silver again.

The king of silvers cant get gold unfortunately.
Macro= large Micro=small
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 24 2010 17:09 GMT
#11
holy shit cool stuff. I never actually noticed this trend o_O
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Weedk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States507 Posts
December 24 2010 17:46 GMT
#12
On December 25 2010 02:00 iw-darins888 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2010 01:28 remag wrote:
Dont worry Stork will win OSL and MSL or he gets silver again.

The king of silvers cant get gold unfortunately.


If Incruit sponsors the next one, Stork has no chance.
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
December 24 2010 17:57 GMT
#13
On December 25 2010 01:42 GWBushJr wrote:
Someone needs 2 / 4 more titles to get a Platinum and Diamond mouse...


thats probably impossible right now with the bw gods trying to make sure nobody breaks nada's record of 3 gold OSL and 3 gold MSL
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
December 25 2010 05:14 GMT
#14
On December 25 2010 02:00 iw-darins888 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2010 01:28 remag wrote:
Dont worry Stork will win OSL and MSL or he gets silver again.

The king of silvers cant get gold unfortunately.


Too bad Stork already broke out of the Kong line. You meant Fantasy can't get gold.
datscilly
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States529 Posts
December 25 2010 07:27 GMT
#15
Maybe the players think of the sponsor's OSL as "their" OSL, and are overconfident:

Bacchus OSL? I got this. --> out in Ro16
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
January 01 2011 06:45 GMT
#16
I hope Bacchus never hosts another OSL again T_T
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9807 Posts
January 01 2011 07:22 GMT
#17
So who thinks this might apply to TSL?
In which case Nony might as well not practice

Or will it be like the MSL and Nony will get to the Ro4?
boomer hands
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
January 01 2011 07:23 GMT
#18
It's hardly that big a coincidence.The odds of 1-2 players not winning the whole thing are pretty good.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-01 07:44:18
January 01 2011 07:44 GMT
#19
On January 01 2011 16:23 Scarecrow wrote:
It's hardly that big a coincidence.The odds of 1-2 players not winning the whole thing are pretty good.


On December 25 2010 00:19 jalstar wrote:
Currently, we're on our 11th OSL that's sponsored by a company that sponsored a previous OSL. This will also be the 10th of those OSLs that doesn't have a winner that won a previous OSL sponsored by that company, the 9th that doesn't have a previous winner in the Ro4, and the 7th that doesn't have a previous winner in the Ro8.

Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
January 01 2011 07:46 GMT
#20
On January 01 2011 16:23 Scarecrow wrote:
It's hardly that big a coincidence.The odds of 1-2 players not winning the whole thing are pretty good.


To be fair, those are some good players, and the fact that they don't win specifically the ones with the same sponsors is quite scary.

Dun dun dun...! I hope this curse gets smashed so that it's proverb to be a pile of baloney though the osls marked with asterisks are the ones in which the curse didn't really work, right?
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 01 2011 08:28 GMT
#21
On January 01 2011 16:46 Z3kk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2011 16:23 Scarecrow wrote:
It's hardly that big a coincidence.The odds of 1-2 players not winning the whole thing are pretty good.


To be fair, those are some good players, and the fact that they don't win specifically the ones with the same sponsors is quite scary.

Dun dun dun...! I hope this curse gets smashed so that it's proverb to be a pile of baloney though the osls marked with asterisks are the ones in which the curse didn't really work, right?


Well Shinhan 3 didn't have a repeat winner but since Casy and Nada got so far I'd say it didn't work.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
January 01 2011 08:39 GMT
#22
any conspiracy theories?
Brood War loyalist
Moskau
Profile Joined July 2010
114 Posts
January 01 2011 09:29 GMT
#23
...Okay, that's weird.

So basically, if Bacchus keeps sponsoring the OSL, Jaedong and Flash will never win another title.


Not true, July won two, just not in a row. The op was pointing out no one has won two in a row by the same sponsor.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
January 03 2011 08:34 GMT
#24
Very interesting find. If you combine this curse and Kim Carrier's, you can become a millionaire without fixing games haha.

The fact that's it's almost the opposite for MSLs makes it even more interesting o_o

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