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On October 08 2010 23:42 NicksonReyes wrote:One more title and we finally have someone greater than Nada. Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 20:37 FearDarkness wrote:On October 08 2010 20:35 Ancestral wrote: 5th bonjwa? Nada, oov, Savior, _______, Flash? HIM SC2 infestation! + Show Spoiler +Are you f***ing kidding me? SC2 infestation? Look at my join date. Anyway, in every thread discussing Bonjwa there is indisputably argument over who qualifies for the title, and BoxeR did not win as many leagues as all those others, but I guess around the the dawn of MSL he started to decline. But he, along with the rest of those players, and Flash, were without debate the best players for a long time. So I accept that BoxeR is in the annals of bonjwa history. Edit: spelling Edit 2: Point: There were fewer big leagues to win when BoxeR was good.
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anyone else notice that eye twitch O.o
Otherwise great interview!
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thank you for the interview
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On October 09 2010 08:35 Hakker wrote: anyone else notice that eye twitch O.o
Otherwise great interview! yeah, he has tourettes syndrome.
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On October 09 2010 07:47 Ancestral wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2010 23:42 NicksonReyes wrote:One more title and we finally have someone greater than Nada. On October 08 2010 20:37 FearDarkness wrote:On October 08 2010 20:35 Ancestral wrote: 5th bonjwa? Nada, oov, Savior, _______, Flash? HIM SC2 infestation! + Show Spoiler +Are you f***ing kidding me? SC2 infestation? Look at my join date. Anyway, in every thread discussing Bonjwa there is indisputably argument over who qualifies for the title, and BoxeR did not win as many leagues as all those others, but I guess around the the dawn of MSL he started to decline. But he, along with the rest of those players, and Flash, were without debate the best players for a long time. So I accept that BoxeR is in the annals of bonjwa history. Edit: spelling Edit 2: Point: There were fewer big leagues to win when BoxeR was good. How can you not expect a comment like "SC2 infestation!" when you don't even know if boxer was a bonjwa or not? Join date doesn't matter if you don't respect the king.
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On October 09 2010 11:21 0mgVitaminE wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 07:47 Ancestral wrote:On October 08 2010 23:42 NicksonReyes wrote:One more title and we finally have someone greater than Nada. On October 08 2010 20:37 FearDarkness wrote:On October 08 2010 20:35 Ancestral wrote: 5th bonjwa? Nada, oov, Savior, _______, Flash? HIM SC2 infestation! + Show Spoiler +Are you f***ing kidding me? SC2 infestation? Look at my join date. Anyway, in every thread discussing Bonjwa there is indisputably argument over who qualifies for the title, and BoxeR did not win as many leagues as all those others, but I guess around the the dawn of MSL he started to decline. But he, along with the rest of those players, and Flash, were without debate the best players for a long time. So I accept that BoxeR is in the annals of bonjwa history. Edit: spelling Edit 2: Point: There were fewer big leagues to win when BoxeR was good. How can you not expect a comment like "SC2 infestation!" when you don't even know if boxer was a bonjwa or not? Join date doesn't matter if you don't respect the king.
I believe the "sc2 Infestation" comment was referring to Oov, Boxer and Nada switching to Starcraft 2.
Just sayin'.
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On October 09 2010 08:54 Pressure wrote: no problem, flash gasp a pressure post
nice interview
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On October 09 2010 11:21 0mgVitaminE wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 07:47 Ancestral wrote:On October 08 2010 23:42 NicksonReyes wrote:One more title and we finally have someone greater than Nada. On October 08 2010 20:37 FearDarkness wrote:On October 08 2010 20:35 Ancestral wrote: 5th bonjwa? Nada, oov, Savior, _______, Flash? HIM SC2 infestation! + Show Spoiler +Are you f***ing kidding me? SC2 infestation? Look at my join date. Anyway, in every thread discussing Bonjwa there is indisputably argument over who qualifies for the title, and BoxeR did not win as many leagues as all those others, but I guess around the the dawn of MSL he started to decline. But he, along with the rest of those players, and Flash, were without debate the best players for a long time. So I accept that BoxeR is in the annals of bonjwa history. Edit: spelling Edit 2: Point: There were fewer big leagues to win when BoxeR was good. How can you not expect a comment like "SC2 infestation!" when you don't even know if boxer was a bonjwa or not? Join date doesn't matter if you don't respect the king. If you have read through all the threads in the past three years (or longer, I don't claim an expertise in the area of StarCraft) you would realize how noisome the debates about the word "bonjwa" become, and how many different definitions people use. For example, if it were "3MSL and >=1 OSL" then BoxeR would not be bonjwa. Honestly, since it doesn't matter at all, we can just call anyone we want bonjwa. I play Protoss so I think bonjwa describes Nal_rA, Stork, and Bisu. I know who Im Yo Hwan is and have read plenty of poignant threads about his past, used to watch ACE in the proleague live whenever I could, and always watched his games on YouToube afterwards if I missed them.
So obviously, since a couple people said something along the lines of "you are completely and totally ignorant if you didn't know BoxeR was bonjwa, you are a StarCraft retard and have no knowledge of this game whatsoever, and should be regarded with disrespect and disdain," BoxeR must indeed be bonjwa and I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Anyway, I digress. And say that it is painfully obvious that Flash has reached the lofty heights of greatness as all those others have, at least in technical achievement, consistency, and dominance, even if not in legend. And I do so love the fact that he says "bonjwa means I can't go any higher' but I can."
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On October 09 2010 12:57 Ancestral wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 11:21 0mgVitaminE wrote:On October 09 2010 07:47 Ancestral wrote:On October 08 2010 23:42 NicksonReyes wrote:One more title and we finally have someone greater than Nada. On October 08 2010 20:37 FearDarkness wrote:On October 08 2010 20:35 Ancestral wrote: 5th bonjwa? Nada, oov, Savior, _______, Flash? HIM SC2 infestation! + Show Spoiler +Are you f***ing kidding me? SC2 infestation? Look at my join date. Anyway, in every thread discussing Bonjwa there is indisputably argument over who qualifies for the title, and BoxeR did not win as many leagues as all those others, but I guess around the the dawn of MSL he started to decline. But he, along with the rest of those players, and Flash, were without debate the best players for a long time. So I accept that BoxeR is in the annals of bonjwa history. Edit: spelling Edit 2: Point: There were fewer big leagues to win when BoxeR was good. How can you not expect a comment like "SC2 infestation!" when you don't even know if boxer was a bonjwa or not? Join date doesn't matter if you don't respect the king. If you have read through all the threads in the past three years (or longer, I don't claim an expertise in the area of StarCraft) you would realize how noisome the debates about the word "bonjwa" become, and how many different definitions people use. For example, if it were "3MSL and >=1 OSL" then BoxeR would not be bonjwa. Honestly, since it doesn't matter at all, we can just call anyone we want bonjwa. I play Protoss so I think bonjwa describes Nal_rA, Stork, and Bisu. I know who Im Yo Hwan is and have read plenty of poignant threads about his past, used to watch ACE in the proleague live whenever I could, and always watched his games on YouToube afterwards if I missed them. So obviously, since a couple people said something along the lines of "you are completely and totally ignorant if you didn't know BoxeR was bonjwa, you are a StarCraft retard and have no knowledge of this game whatsoever, and should be regarded with disrespect and disdain," BoxeR must indeed be bonjwa and I have no idea what I'm talking about. Anyway, I digress. And say that it is painfully obvious that Flash has reached the lofty heights of greatness as all those others have, at least in technical achievement, consistency, and dominance, even if not in legend. And I do so love the fact that he says "bonjwa means I can't go any higher' but I can."
But people reacted because you asked who the missing bonjwa was, as if you didn't know or had forgot, not as if it was a criticism against Boxer bonjwa status or whatever. We can't read minds in here, we didn't know you had your own long-winded, screwball reasons for not thinking Boxer was a bonjwa and that you chose to present it in the most subtle way possible, making it impossible to discern as actual criticism.
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I believe it says that Boxer is Bonjwa in the BW manual.
Or it should anyway.
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Awesome answer to the Bonjwa question, I couldn't help but chuckle.
"Flash doesn't want to be a bonjwa, he wants to be the BEST PLAYER EVER"
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On October 09 2010 08:35 Hakker wrote: anyone else notice that eye twitch O.o
Otherwise great interview!
He was doing it quite often, I assume due to being nervous around new people. Made me feel like he was about to crush me with a timing push ^^
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good interview, nice questions!
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On October 09 2010 12:57 Ancestral wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 11:21 0mgVitaminE wrote:On October 09 2010 07:47 Ancestral wrote:On October 08 2010 23:42 NicksonReyes wrote:One more title and we finally have someone greater than Nada. On October 08 2010 20:37 FearDarkness wrote:On October 08 2010 20:35 Ancestral wrote: 5th bonjwa? Nada, oov, Savior, _______, Flash? HIM SC2 infestation! + Show Spoiler +Are you f***ing kidding me? SC2 infestation? Look at my join date. Anyway, in every thread discussing Bonjwa there is indisputably argument over who qualifies for the title, and BoxeR did not win as many leagues as all those others, but I guess around the the dawn of MSL he started to decline. But he, along with the rest of those players, and Flash, were without debate the best players for a long time. So I accept that BoxeR is in the annals of bonjwa history. Edit: spelling Edit 2: Point: There were fewer big leagues to win when BoxeR was good. How can you not expect a comment like "SC2 infestation!" when you don't even know if boxer was a bonjwa or not? Join date doesn't matter if you don't respect the king. If you have read through all the threads in the past three years (or longer, I don't claim an expertise in the area of StarCraft) you would realize how noisome the debates about the word "bonjwa" become, and how many different definitions people use. For example, if it were "3MSL and >=1 OSL" then BoxeR would not be bonjwa. Honestly, since it doesn't matter at all, we can just call anyone we want bonjwa. I play Protoss so I think bonjwa describes Nal_rA, Stork, and Bisu. I know who Im Yo Hwan is and have read plenty of poignant threads about his past, used to watch ACE in the proleague live whenever I could, and always watched his games on YouToube afterwards if I missed them. Your opinion is entirely irrelevant to the cold hard facts. Boxer was the top rated player in BW for 17 consecutive months and was the major factor in creating the SC e-sports scene as we know it. Boxer is the emperor and an eternal undisputed Bonjwa.
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On October 09 2010 12:57 Ancestral wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 11:21 0mgVitaminE wrote:On October 09 2010 07:47 Ancestral wrote:On October 08 2010 23:42 NicksonReyes wrote:One more title and we finally have someone greater than Nada. On October 08 2010 20:37 FearDarkness wrote:On October 08 2010 20:35 Ancestral wrote: 5th bonjwa? Nada, oov, Savior, _______, Flash? HIM SC2 infestation! + Show Spoiler +Are you f***ing kidding me? SC2 infestation? Look at my join date. Anyway, in every thread discussing Bonjwa there is indisputably argument over who qualifies for the title, and BoxeR did not win as many leagues as all those others, but I guess around the the dawn of MSL he started to decline. But he, along with the rest of those players, and Flash, were without debate the best players for a long time. So I accept that BoxeR is in the annals of bonjwa history. Edit: spelling Edit 2: Point: There were fewer big leagues to win when BoxeR was good. How can you not expect a comment like "SC2 infestation!" when you don't even know if boxer was a bonjwa or not? Join date doesn't matter if you don't respect the king. If you have read through all the threads in the past three years (or longer, I don't claim an expertise in the area of StarCraft) you would realize how noisome the debates about the word "bonjwa" become, and how many different definitions people use. For example, if it were "3MSL and >=1 OSL" then BoxeR would not be bonjwa. Honestly, since it doesn't matter at all, we can just call anyone we want bonjwa. I play Protoss so I think bonjwa describes Nal_rA, Stork, and Bisu. I know who Im Yo Hwan is and have read plenty of poignant threads about his past, used to watch ACE in the proleague live whenever I could, and always watched his games on YouToube afterwards if I missed them. So obviously, since a couple people said something along the lines of "you are completely and totally ignorant if you didn't know BoxeR was bonjwa, you are a StarCraft retard and have no knowledge of this game whatsoever, and should be regarded with disrespect and disdain," BoxeR must indeed be bonjwa and I have no idea what I'm talking about. Anyway, I digress. And say that it is painfully obvious that Flash has reached the lofty heights of greatness as all those others have, at least in technical achievement, consistency, and dominance, even if not in legend. And I do so love the fact that he says "bonjwa means I can't go any higher' but I can."
Boxer is a Bonjwa, there is nothing to disagree with when it comes to that. I bet even if Jaedong and Flash were asked if they considered Boxer a Bonjwa, they would agree. Many people have a great respect for him, what he has achieved, and what he has contributed to the Starcraft community. When someone receives the title Bonjwa, it is because he is generally accepted as one, not because a certain group or individual wants to call him one.
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Russian Federation370 Posts
Flash so sick!!! Natural born macro terran!
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Both Flash and Jaedong are so admirable as people, it's hard to find flaws in their character even if you support the other guy. Flash saying that he is still 50/50 with JD is way more reasonable than any popular analysis on the issue. Even if I'm not a fan of Flash, I'm glad he's part of the BW scene.
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Great interview thanks for posting!
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