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[Interview] KT Rolster vs Woongjin Stars Winners - Page 3

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seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
April 20 2010 05:53 GMT
#41
Wowee scouts and pseudo-bm flash, I'll have to watch these, thanks for the translation!
J- Pirate Udyr WW T- Pirate Riven Galio M- Galio Annie S- Sona Lux -- Always farm, never carry.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
April 20 2010 07:00 GMT
#42
God I love how he was like;" Kay he bm's, so I will take the most expos since OOV in his prime and then walk home ezmode"

Thanks for translation. AND STATS HWAITING!!!
In the woods, there lurks..
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-20 07:11:41
April 20 2010 07:11 GMT
#43
On April 20 2010 16:00 Iplaythings wrote:
God I love how he was like;" Kay he bm's, so I will take the most expos since OOV in his prime and then walk home ezmode"


Hahaha Flash <333

Thank you for your translations as of late Appreciate them very much <3
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
April 20 2010 07:24 GMT
#44
Anyone else think that free wasn't BM at all? I mean, when you've got carriers owning the terran's natural and recall owning their main, and they have no other bases and no units and STILL aren't giving up, what else is the protoss supposed to do?

Flash kept his counter-BM to a minimum, though, so it's all good. It was actually pretty cool watching him take the entire map and trade mech units 1-for-1 with zerglings and still come out ahead.
May the BeSt man win.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
April 20 2010 07:28 GMT
#45
On April 20 2010 16:24 Djabanete wrote:
Anyone else think that free wasn't BM at all? I mean, when you've got carriers owning the terran's natural and recall owning their main, and they have no other bases and no units and STILL aren't giving up, what else is the protoss supposed to do?

Flash kept his counter-BM to a minimum, though, so it's all good. It was actually pretty cool watching him take the entire map and trade mech units 1-for-1 with zerglings and still come out ahead.

Make more carriers? I think that's what is expected.
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
April 20 2010 08:18 GMT
#46
haha, so the expand on the whole map WAS bm, too bad he didn't actually nuke!
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7815 Posts
April 20 2010 08:39 GMT
#47
ForGG should have just left. I say that as a huge ForGG fan and I definitely don't blame Free for building scouts.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
April 20 2010 09:01 GMT
#48
Stats PvZ was just perfect, i don't remeber watching such game in a looong time, if ever.
Flash beastly as always, i seriously feel sorry for his opponents.
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SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
April 20 2010 11:23 GMT
#49
Love how this year Flash went from "I really need to work on TvP" to "Yea so I wasn't sure if I should nuke him or take all the expansions"
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 20 2010 11:29 GMT
#50
On April 20 2010 07:28 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2010 04:04 SuperArc wrote:
Rofl free must be pissed! All he needed to do was defend and he could have taken the win easily. Hahaha!!

Ya, defending that push would've been really easy, right?


If you know a timing push is coming, defending is easy...

On April 20 2010 07:38 Wangsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2010 04:04 SuperArc wrote:
Rofl free must be pissed! All he needed to do was defend and he could have taken the win easily. Hahaha!!

And Flash not even denying that KT is a one man team is really really sad.


im not sure if you are being sarcastic, but if you're serious you should watch the game. at no point in the entire match was free in any position to win.


I am saying that if free knew that Flash didn't practice any TvP at all, he would have defended at the cost of eco or tech and dragged the game into late game where Flash with no practice would become very beatable.

But of course free couldn't know...
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
SturmAddict
Profile Joined October 2009
Malaysia176 Posts
April 20 2010 11:38 GMT
#51
You mean you want to drag a game when you are in the losing position?

Flash had a full command group and a half of tanks knocking in front of the dual bridges, with rines and vults to take enough fire to completely obliterate all the goons without any tank losses.

had he tried to attack that army anywhere there, it will be total slaughter for him. He really didnt have a choice and had to counter, or risk getting all his units trapped in his base by flashes timing attack.


its just that his 12 goons got completely obliterated by 1tank and 7 vultures in flash's base. He lose the micro war, hence the game.
Yggdrasil Leaf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
221 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-20 11:40:18
April 20 2010 11:39 GMT
#52
...and dragged the game into late game where Flash with no practice would become very beatable.


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"A person hears only what they understand" - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
April 20 2010 11:46 GMT
#53
I wonder how soulkey felt after watching the replay of that game, he probably wasn't even aware that Flash had taken all the expansion on the map. First time ever that I've watched a 10 base t vs a 4 base z o.O.
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Bwenjarin Raffrack
Profile Joined November 2008
United States322 Posts
April 20 2010 12:00 GMT
#54
Man, I hate Flash's TvP playing style. It's so boring, all he ever does is turtle, turtle, turtle. To make the boredom even worse, in his last few games he's started turtling outside his opponents' naturals in the middle of the game! He even bunkers up early game, too--how ridiculous is it to place your last line of defense and your only marines right next to the opponent's nexus? He must be the most defensive player on earth. Hopefully he'll start playing straight-up one of these days.

Ah well, thanks for the interview and well-done translation at least.
I'm not as thunk as dreople pink I am.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
April 20 2010 12:05 GMT
#55
On April 20 2010 20:29 SuperArc wrote:
I am saying that if free knew that Flash didn't practice any TvP at all, he would have defended at the cost of eco or tech and dragged the game into late game where Flash with no practice would become very beatable.

You mean like Flash was very beatable 1 time out of 11 in Winners League, none of those 1 times involving the late game? He couldn't have prepared for all of those.

Flash has only lost one macro game to a protoss this year (Movie's carrier switch on EOTS in the OSL finals), and he has played a bazillion of those games, in between all the games he ended quickly with his timing pushes from hell (which his opponents couldn't defend even when they knew what was coming, by the way).

Flash isn't a player who you just beat by being more prepared. His in-game adaptability and grasp of the game fundamentals is too good for that. 9 times out of 10, Flash gets a *stronger* position as the game goes on, even if the other player starts with an advantage.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
April 20 2010 12:31 GMT
#56
lol superarc no
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
April 20 2010 13:25 GMT
#57
Flash was on equal bases when he pushed (in fact, I think I remember he was a little ahead since Free's fifth wasn't up yet). It's not like he took a major economic sacrifice for his push.

And even if he did, there was no way Free was going to break the push. His forces were totally overmatched at that point. It was a completely dominating performance.
LeXz
Profile Joined March 2009
46 Posts
April 20 2010 14:40 GMT
#58
anyone know where to watch the vods ? i wanna catch up w pro league thanx b4 hand.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 20 2010 14:46 GMT
#59
Did you watch the game SuperArc?
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
April 20 2010 15:13 GMT
#60
On April 20 2010 23:40 LeXz wrote:
anyone know where to watch the vods ? i wanna catch up w pro league thanx b4 hand.


http://www.wfbrood.com/xingji/scvod/xingji_47534.html

Note the ACE vs OZ matches are also there, so if you don't want the lineups/number of games play for that match spoiled you'll need to find somewhere else
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
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