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RaptorX
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Germany646 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-09 19:55:36
December 08 2009 17:35 GMT
#1
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GENERAL INFO


In this post I will mention general information regarding streaming the Coach-Pupil League matches, also the requirements, rules and the minimum setup that we will be using in the settings for Camtasia, Flash Media Live Encoder and Procaster.

Software used:

  • Camtasia 5.0.2
    ftp.techsmith.com/Pub/products/camtasiastudio/enu/502
    pm me to send you my key

  • Flash Media Live Encoder 3.0
    https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=fmle3
    If you have downloaded an adobe product before just use your email adress and password, if not just set up a quick account for download.

  • x264 Codec rev. 1360*
    http://www.free-codecs.com/x264_Video_Codec_download.htm

  • Prio
    http://www.prnwatch.com/download.html
    This program allows you to save the priority settings and affinity settings so you dont have to be changing this over and over again every time you open the programs. It is the last one on the list.

  • Procaster**
    http://livestream.com/procaster

    *
    I remember somebody mentioning that it was not necessary to download this codec, because FMLE has the h264 codec installed. You can download it if you want. I have it installed and configured so its your call.

    **
    As far as I know the only way you can Stream with ProCaster is playing Starcraft in window mode. If you have it in full screen then you will have the problems with the colors



I created a calendar in which I will add the matches that can be streamed. If you have gmail you can access the calendar yourself through google calendar. In any case you can access the calendar via your browser using this link:

http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=qv0atsr1a464r7162cfdsvsqh8@group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/New_York

I will add all your emails to my calendar so you will get a notification in your mail about an upcoming match.

You are going to choose if you are able to stream it or not by selecting that you are going to attend to that event or not and then I will add you to that particular stream.

I expect it to be several matches in one day so if several streamers are available that day I will set them up for each match.

If there is still more streamers than matches then we will decide who will stream that particular game.

If you said that you are going to stream a match and you were selected to do it then you MUST be on the channel at least 30 minutes before the match. I will ask the players to be there as well at that time so you can make a test match to make sure the game is not going to lag, this is very important, so when you say you are able to go at a specific time you must be sure you can do it 30 minutes before the due time.

After we decide who will stream a specific game I will tell that person to which Channel he is going to Stream to. Those are the links that you will copy/paste in Flash Media Live Encoder FMS link option, depending on which channel are you going to stream.

The FMS links to stream are:
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Channel CPL-Game1
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rtmp://publish.livestream.com/mogulus/cpl_game1/username=CPLgames/password=livegames/isAutoLive=true/autoVOD=true/autoAutopilot=true/autoRecord=true


Channel CPL-Game2
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rtmp://publish.livestream.com/mogulus/cpl_game2/username=CPLgames/password=livegames/isAutoLive=true/autoVOD=true/autoAutopilot=true/autoRecord=true


Channel CPL-Game3
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rtmp://publish.livestream.com/mogulus/cpl_game3/username=CPLgames/password=livegames/isAutoLive=true/autoVOD=true/autoAutopilot=true/autoRecord=true


REQUIREMENTS


To be part of the stream members you need to have the following:

  • An upload speed of more than 0.5Mb/s, you can check your speed at www.speedtest.net.

  • At least 2GB ram if you are using FMLE because enconding live takes a lot of resources.

  • You need to create an Iccup account with the [Stream] or [S] Tag on it.

    This is 100% necessary because we need to differentiate you from the players of the game that you are streaming so that there is no problem in letting you enter as an observer in to the game.

    The rules of the CPL laid down by l10f say that only Admins - Coaches - Streamers can enter a game to observe, so if you dont have the [Stream] or [S] tag we will not know you are a streamer and thus we will not allow you to enter a game.


    You can create several accounts on iccup with the same email if you have a gmail account. Just add a dot on it, ie.: graptorx@gmail.com --> g.raptorx@gmail.com --> gr.aptorx@gmail.com... with this I can setup 3 accounts in Iccup, because gmail removes the dots and send the mails to your main account.

  • I need you to make a post here confirming that you are willing/able to stream in general, so I can make notes of who can and who cant. Note that later on you will have to confirm for each event individually.


SETTINGS


I will post the settings that I found worked best for me. This is just for you to have an idea of what is the minimum quality settings for each program, but of course if you have already experience with the programs and have better settings then just use the ones you have. Also experimenting is very good, you can use my settings and try to make them better.

My Specs

XP
Core2Duo 2.50 Ghz
4Gb Ram
Sound Blaster Audigy with the "What you hear" option on to pick up mic + starcraft sound... note that you have to unmute the mic on the playback panel so you can actually pick up the sound of the mic in your stream.

ADSL
15Mb/s Download
1Mb/s Upload


Quick settings view.

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+ Show Spoiler [Flash Media Live Encoder Settings] +

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+ Show Spoiler [Procaster Settings] +

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Detailed Settings View:

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Camtasia Studio Settings


Tools > Options > Video
  • Manual
  • 30fps
  • Screen Capture Codec --> x264 or TSCC
  • Live Ouput --> 30fps / 640x480


Tools > Options > Video > Video Compression > Configure
  • Single Pass Lossless


Tools > Options > Hotkeys
  • Start Recording [F7]
  • Stop Recording [F8]



Flash Media Live Encoder Settings


  • Preset --> Custom


Video
  • Device --> Camtasia Studio Video Capture
  • Format --> H.264: Profile=Main Level=3.1 Key=5seconds
  • 15fps
  • 640x480
  • 300kbps @ 560x420
  • Deinterlace


Audio
  • Mp3
  • Mono*
  • 44100
  • 56


Total Bitrate 356kbps.

You can put higher settings if course but the limit is a total of 500kbps, since you have to have a premium account in livestream to get more than that.

*
I found out that putting the channel in mono fixes the issue that you can only hear the sound of certain units and not others during streaming. I think that issue is due to Stereo sending 2 channels but livestream only getting 1.



Procaster


  • Preset --> Custom


Preferences > Livestream
  • Live
  • On Demand
  • Auto-Pilot
  • Auto Record


Preferences > Video
  • Device --> Camtasia Studio Video Capture
  • Encoder --> H.264: Profile=Main Level=3.1 Key=5seconds
  • 560x420
  • 15fps
  • Key Frame=5seconds


Preferences > Audio
  • 56
  • 44100
  • Mono*
  • Mp3


*
I found out that putting the channel in mono fixes the issue that you can only hear the sound of certain units and not others during streaming. I think that issue is due to Stereo sending 2 channels but livestream only getting 1.

I won
Rainmaker5
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1027 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 17:42:56
December 08 2009 17:42 GMT
#2
After seeing how professional this whole thing is I had to change my pants. :D
(-_(-_(-_(^_(-_(-_(-_-)_-)_-)_-)_-)_-)_-) CJ Fighting! "Beer -> soju -> whisky is a terrible build"~~ Scrarecrow.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
December 08 2009 17:51 GMT
#3
Looks really nice. For your sake i hope you hire some extra admins/writers, just you and l10f are gonna be busy running this.
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can't help but read those things as "FuckMyLifeE" and pornwatch.com T.T
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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 17:59:24
December 08 2009 17:55 GMT
#4
Gotta go Techsmith with VP6. H264 is simply too taxing on the system, especially if you run Main 3.1.

Procaster absolutely sucks, so I absolutely do not recommend using it.

And you're correct. Camtasia does not encode when in Live Output mode, so installing x264 codec won't do anything.
God Bless
RaptorX
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Germany646 Posts
December 08 2009 17:59 GMT
#5
On December 09 2009 02:55 Roffles wrote:
Gotta go Techsmith with VP6. H264 is simply too taxing on the system, especially if you run Main 3.1.

Procaster absolutely sucks, so I absolutely do not recommend using it.


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I tried going VP6... the whole thing was lagging like crazy and I was dropping like 20 frames out of 30, so the whole thing looked like a picture by picture thing.

About procaster I also think the same but I think one of the guys said that he was using procasting to stream and I am not here to tell you which is the best but which where the settings that worked with me with each program.
I won
ToN
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada245 Posts
December 08 2009 18:56 GMT
#6
Ok well I sent you my internet settings and It's under the upload you want so yeah.... gl folks ^^
RaptorX
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Germany646 Posts
December 08 2009 19:43 GMT
#7
On December 09 2009 03:56 ToN wrote:
Ok well I sent you my internet settings and It's under the upload you want so yeah.... gl folks ^^


are you able to stream without lagging?

specially when there is 3 people in the game.


I put it as a requirement but it is for not lagging the games. If you are sure you can stream without problems then there is no issue.
I won
ToN
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada245 Posts
December 08 2009 19:52 GMT
#8
No your right it really depends on the day whether I lag or not and have never tried 3 or more people I was just originally suggesting myself as a possible backup but I will check to see if it is possible I haven't used it too much.
Mekhami
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
90 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 19:54:46
December 08 2009 19:53 GMT
#9
I'm able to stream with procaster without lagging. I'll be testing this soon.

What are some tricks to get Livestream to approve me?
"Mekhami gave good advice." -Pokebunny, 12/1/2009
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
December 08 2009 19:56 GMT
#10
On December 09 2009 04:53 Mekhami wrote:
I'm able to stream with procaster without lagging. I'll be testing this soon.

What are some tricks to get Livestream to approve me?

Need lot of viewer minutes. Also, Procaster sucks. I don't get why people still don't believe me.
God Bless
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
December 08 2009 20:10 GMT
#11
Could a mod please shorten the tag to [CPL], thanks.
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Ziph
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands970 Posts
December 08 2009 20:18 GMT
#12
On December 09 2009 04:56 Roffles wrote:
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On December 09 2009 04:53 Mekhami wrote:
I'm able to stream with procaster without lagging. I'll be testing this soon.

What are some tricks to get Livestream to approve me?

Need lot of viewer minutes. Also, Procaster sucks. I don't get why people still don't believe me.

Procaster indeed sucks fucking balls ^^ I believe you.
Starcraft 2 - Beta
RaptorX
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Germany646 Posts
December 08 2009 20:24 GMT
#13
On December 09 2009 05:18 Ziph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2009 04:56 Roffles wrote:
On December 09 2009 04:53 Mekhami wrote:
I'm able to stream with procaster without lagging. I'll be testing this soon.

What are some tricks to get Livestream to approve me?

Need lot of viewer minutes. Also, Procaster sucks. I don't get why people still don't believe me.

Procaster indeed sucks fucking balls ^^ I believe you.


as I said I also believe in him... there is nothing worse than Procaster to cast, specially starcraft... I dont know if you guys havent seen Day[9] having to restart his cast because the program "froze" :D

But if somebody wants to use it, then go ahead and use it. There is no problem for me.
I won
Mekhami
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
90 Posts
December 08 2009 20:24 GMT
#14
Okay I'm using Camtasia now. I would like to get approved at some point though but we'll have to see.
"Mekhami gave good advice." -Pokebunny, 12/1/2009
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4337 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 21:10:18
December 08 2009 21:03 GMT
#15
Can we have a Justin.tv stream as well? I REALLY prefer Justin over Livestream, it seems to cause me less issues.

But I am 100% set up with what I have. Been doing this for a year and a half.

Also, can you PM me the user names (If different from stream name) and password to those channels so I can moderate chat?

Edit: Why do all 3 of the streams have the EXACT same http? Shouldn't 2 be 2 and 3 be 3? They all say 1.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 21:11:03
December 08 2009 21:10 GMT
#16
did Day[9] said anything about his plans on streaming this ?

p.s. How many people will be participating in this?
IMBA - International Mountain Bicycling Association.
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
December 08 2009 21:13 GMT
#17
On December 09 2009 06:10 ProoM wrote:
did Day[9] said anything about his plans on streaming this ?

p.s. How many people will be participating in this?


In the league? 24 coaches and 72 players.
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ProoM
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Lithuania1741 Posts
December 08 2009 21:14 GMT
#18
On December 09 2009 06:13 l10f wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2009 06:10 ProoM wrote:
did Day[9] said anything about his plans on streaming this ?

p.s. How many people will be participating in this?


In the league? 24 coaches and 72 players.

12 teams, 2 coaches per team and 6 players per team right?
IMBA - International Mountain Bicycling Association.
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-08 21:24:25
December 08 2009 21:23 GMT
#19
How many streamers do you need? When will you need to have games streamed?

@Raptor You didn't change the channel name for any of the FMS urls.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
December 08 2009 22:22 GMT
#20
Should you really be revealing the PW to the streams on a public post?

And I will try to configure my stream later, but for those who don't have the option to choose the "what you hear", you can use a program called audiorepeater (google it, you'll get a page to VAC (virtual audio cable), and it'll be one of the programs in that file. honestly you don't need the rest, only audiorepeater.exe, but if you wanna play around with it, sure.

Then you open audiorepeater.exe and wave in you choose your mic, wave out you choose your speakers/stereo mix (make the mic noise in, outputs it to your speakers, so you get both sc and voice in speakers so FMLE can record that)
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