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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37032 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-18 00:02:11
December 24 2012 11:22 GMT
#1
Dem blog editing skills~
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-24 11:52:53
December 24 2012 11:32 GMT
#2
Well it's good to know that you at least regret it, but I still don't know why you actually wanted to know how others felt? Of course it saddened them, I don't see how you need a poll to confirm that. Everyone appreciates what you do here, you do a fantastic job, please keep it up!
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
December 24 2012 11:32 GMT
#3
I hope you really understand why it's not okay to put those 2 things into the same poll like that, they are in no way comparable and personally I felt it was really insensitive to do. While both were horrible events in their own a death can never be compared to match fixing and that poll gives a really bad vibe to anyone seeing it.

I'm sure you learned your lesson, thank you for all the contributions so far to this great site, hope you keep doing awesome translations, keeping up the fan club threads and being a good contributor to this site as a whole.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25771 Posts
December 24 2012 11:45 GMT
#4
Your contributions are much appreciated on this site by all and sundry, and I for one appreciated the explanation and apology in here. Few face Nazgul's wrath and live to tell the tale, hope you don't cross swords with him again.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50435 Posts
December 24 2012 11:49 GMT
#5
you really didn't need to apologize, yeah it was dumb but really we've all done stupid things on TL(have you seen my april fools 2011 blog?), yes you got off easy because you contributed but there's no point thinking of "what if I was just another guy making this poll" it doesn't matter because you are not some ordinary nobody on TL.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
December 24 2012 11:54 GMT
#6
I can understand you. TL is one of the strictest boards out there, after a day on the internet this could happen to anyone. <3
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37032 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-24 12:01:29
December 24 2012 12:01 GMT
#7
On December 24 2012 20:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:
you really didn't need to apologize, yeah it was dumb but really we've all done stupid things on TL(have you seen my april fools 2011 blog?), yes you got off easy because you contributed but there's no point thinking of "what if I was just another guy making this poll" it doesn't matter because you are not some ordinary nobody on TL.

This ban has prevented me from getting sleep. I needed to clear my conscience.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-24 12:52:14
December 24 2012 12:03 GMT
#8
On December 24 2012 21:01 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 20:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:
you really didn't need to apologize, yeah it was dumb but really we've all done stupid things on TL(have you seen my april fools 2011 blog?), yes you got off easy because you contributed but there's no point thinking of "what if I was just another guy making this poll" it doesn't matter because you are not some ordinary nobody on TL.

This ban has prevented me from getting sleep. I needed to clear my conscience.

>< imo you are taking this a bit too close to heart, it was a bad decision yes, but nothing to really lose sleep over T_T or be overly dramatic about
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50435 Posts
December 24 2012 12:13 GMT
#9
On December 24 2012 21:01 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 20:49 BLinD-RawR wrote:
you really didn't need to apologize, yeah it was dumb but really we've all done stupid things on TL(have you seen my april fools 2011 blog?), yes you got off easy because you contributed but there's no point thinking of "what if I was just another guy making this poll" it doesn't matter because you are not some ordinary nobody on TL.

This ban has prevented me from getting sleep. I needed to clear my conscience.

hopefully you're feeling better now
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
December 24 2012 12:16 GMT
#10
I too made my big share of terrible posts and I still tend to write stupid stuff when it comes to LR threads. But you shouldnt take this so personal, to me it seems as if you are trying to justify your initial post. Its good to be accountable for your actions but sometimes you just need to reflect on yourself, improve and just have fun. Not sleeping because of a ban is not fun.
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
December 24 2012 12:16 GMT
#11
Thank you for the explanation. I saw that you had been temp banned but wasn't sure why.

I appreciated your explanation for why you put the poll up and can see what your thought process was.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
December 24 2012 12:22 GMT
#12
As bad as the match-fixing scandal was, the death of someone (especially with the tragic circumstances in KTViolet's case) should never be compared to it in any way, shape, or form. It's good you saw your mistake after Nazgul took action on you. I hope though it wasn't just due to the fact that it was Nazgul. Anyways, good to see you're back. Hwaiting!
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
BirdKiller
Profile Joined January 2011
United States428 Posts
December 24 2012 12:26 GMT
#13
As someone else said, this isn't something you should take personally or too seriously especially if it wasn't for ill intent. Definitely not something to lose sleep over or think too seriously about.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-24 12:28:52
December 24 2012 12:26 GMT
#14
Man you are sincere as they come. You are 'lawful good' in terms of D&D alignment! Insomnia for 8 days after a 2 day temp! By the way, I thought your poll should have excluded Violet's passing because, well, deaths shouldn't be compared to other things...and they shouldn't be 'rated' against other things for how much they affect people. But for me the most heartbreaking non-death thing in BW history was the abandonment of BW after SC2 came out , Savior's fall was pretty shocking but not as gut-wrenching as everyone abandoning the best RTS in history. And TL filling up with people who didn't even play BW and consider WC3 'old school'.

But in conclusion, people like you are the 'treasures' of an online community. Respectful, thoughtful, contributing a lot. So yeah if I posted that poll I would be permed haha, but a 2 day ban is befitting for someone who genuinely made an error of judgment and apologised in earnest. Definitely shouldn't beat yourself up about it!
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37032 Posts
December 24 2012 12:31 GMT
#15
On December 24 2012 21:16 disciple wrote:
I too made my big share of terrible posts and I still tend to write stupid stuff when it comes to LR threads. But you shouldnt take this so personal, to me it seems as if you are trying to justify your initial post. Its good to be accountable for your actions but sometimes you just need to reflect on yourself, improve and just have fun. Not sleeping because of a ban is not fun.

It may seem that way but I don't want to justify my post. I just want to clear up any misunderstandings and make sure that if people do judge me for what I did that day, they at least can read about my though process and why I did what I did.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44716 Posts
December 24 2012 12:43 GMT
#16
I think the fact that you're displaying this level of sincerity and owning up to it this much shows you're truly sorry. You've clearly learned from your mistake, and you can reinforce that by simply not doing it again. It seems to be more of a personal burden than an effect you've caused on us; don't worry about us It's always nice to see a reflection like this every once in a while though.

Happy holidays, and get some rest. We still love you ♥
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
December 24 2012 13:00 GMT
#17
On December 24 2012 21:31 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 21:16 disciple wrote:
I too made my big share of terrible posts and I still tend to write stupid stuff when it comes to LR threads. But you shouldnt take this so personal, to me it seems as if you are trying to justify your initial post. Its good to be accountable for your actions but sometimes you just need to reflect on yourself, improve and just have fun. Not sleeping because of a ban is not fun.

It may seem that way but I don't want to justify my post. I just want to clear up any misunderstandings and make sure that if people do judge me for what I did that day, they at least can read about my though process and why I did what I did.


Dude.

No one thinks your some horrible trash poster. I know you've racked up 10k posts in the last year or something like that making LRs ect, and you clearly value the community and your activity in it a lot. But if you have been here for 7 years, you should know most people who have been here for awhile have a few warnings/temp bans, and they are imo just a small reality check most of the time, not a "your on the shitlist now motherfucker" kinda thing. (then again ETT was involved :o, maybe watch out)

I was temp banned when slayers won their first gstl for using all caps by Naz. So then i said to myself "oh, well shit, I guess i really shouldn't post like a total moron." And most of the time, i think i avoid doing that.

Just don't go the way of Blasterion with 8k+ posts and never learn not to stop doing something dumb you shouldn't do. (ETT Will find you :p)
Only by overcoming many obstacles does a river become - デイヴィ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ド
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 24 2012 13:36 GMT
#18
Fuck ups helps you improve, you can be damn sure that you wont do the fuck up again, I experienced a similar experience of fucking up and loosing some sleep for it recently, it's a bittersweet reward
In the woods, there lurks..
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
December 24 2012 13:45 GMT
#19
Seeker you need to chill out a little and not take things so seriously.
Honestly. It was just a 2 day ban and you did your time, im sure most of TL didn't see your poll until now.
In some respects I think further discussion of your ban and the topics are a bit backwards but maybe that's me.
You didn't have to apologize to anyone, just learn from it, take a mental note, and move on.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
December 24 2012 13:57 GMT
#20
Don't take the internet so serious. Shit happens, and that's okay. But you shouldn't sacrifice your well being (sleep) because of one mistake, everyone makes them.

Once, i was on a website's moderating staff. I kept doing stupid shit with friends via my powers and eventually i pissed off my bosses enough to where they fired me. I still learned from the experience, and i still am on good terms with those people. Just cause you made mistakes doesn't mean its the end of the world

Fighting!
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
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