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Dreamhack Summer TvZ stats/wins

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thehitman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1105 Posts
July 28 2011 12:25 GMT
#1
Hi there ladies and gentleman as Dreamhack Valencia is nearing I've decided to post Dreamhack Summer results for TvZ.

I'll also be posting the combined results of MLG Columbus and Dramhack Summer to give a better representation of the stats with a lot more games obviously played from two events.

Check out the MLG Columbus results only in my previous blog.

Note: Only groups results and beyond are taken.
Dreamhack Summer T v Z 41:44
0:2
2:0
0:2
2:0
0:2
2:0
2:1
0:2
0:2
2:1
1:2
1:2
2:1
0:2
2:1
1:2
0:2
0:2
1:2
2:1
0:2
2:0
2:0
2:0
2:1
2:1
1:2
2:0
1:2
0:2
2:0
2:1
0:2
1:2
2:0
Terran 48% Zerg 52%
35 sets were counted, 85 matches total
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Now here are the combined results from MLG Columbus and Dreamhack Summer:
64 sets total, 159 matches total.
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bennyaus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1833 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 12:47:59
July 28 2011 12:47 GMT
#2
Why is there a bigger physical difference between 48-52 than 44-56.... I realise it is just superficial and you can see the real score on the side, but the graph is meant to be representative and if you compare both graphs it looks like you're trying to exaggerate how well Zerg did in Dreamhack Summer and how it is more balanced including both events, whereas the opposite effect occurred and it is kind of irrelevant anyway because there are so many factors besides race determining the outcome of these games.

My advice. If you're going to side by side 2 graphs at least have them on the same scale for comparative purposes...
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thehitman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1105 Posts
July 28 2011 13:33 GMT
#3
On July 28 2011 21:47 bennyaus wrote:
Why is there a bigger physical difference between 48-52 than 44-56.... I realise it is just superficial and you can see the real score on the side, but the graph is meant to be representative and if you compare both graphs it looks like you're trying to exaggerate how well Zerg did in Dreamhack Summer and how it is more balanced including both events, whereas the opposite effect occurred and it is kind of irrelevant anyway because there are so many factors besides race determining the outcome of these games.

My advice. If you're going to side by side 2 graphs at least have them on the same scale for comparative purposes...

That is just Microsoft Excel being stupid. Can't do anything about it and yes I've tried.
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
July 28 2011 13:33 GMT
#4
Having them on the same scale would be better, but it's VERY minor. I mean, the graphs aren't really necessary with these kinds of percentages.
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ZpuX
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden1230 Posts
July 28 2011 15:07 GMT
#5
yea agreed, that looks kinda silly, to prove your point I think you should redo the graphs or just leave them out otherwise people will just get confused.
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thehitman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1105 Posts
July 29 2011 16:18 GMT
#6
On July 29 2011 00:07 ZpuX wrote:
yea agreed, that looks kinda silly, to prove your point I think you should redo the graphs or just leave them out otherwise people will just get confused.

can't. Its just the way office 2010 shows it
Blueblister
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden321 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 23:50:09
August 02 2011 23:42 GMT
#7
Thanks man!
The MLG Columbus statistics is slightly worrisome and although Dreamhack Summer seems well within the margin of error, it's amusing that it also indicates zerg favored balance.

Edit: Hmm... it does seem like there were a disproportionate number of good zergs at Columbus.

On July 28 2011 22:33 thehitman wrote:
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On July 28 2011 21:47 bennyaus wrote:
Why is there a bigger physical difference between 48-52 than 44-56.... I realise it is just superficial and you can see the real score on the side, but the graph is meant to be representative and if you compare both graphs it looks like you're trying to exaggerate how well Zerg did in Dreamhack Summer and how it is more balanced including both events, whereas the opposite effect occurred and it is kind of irrelevant anyway because there are so many factors besides race determining the outcome of these games.

My advice. If you're going to side by side 2 graphs at least have them on the same scale for comparative purposes...

That is just Microsoft Excel being stupid. Can't do anything about it and yes I've tried.


On July 30 2011 01:18 thehitman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 00:07 ZpuX wrote:
yea agreed, that looks kinda silly, to prove your point I think you should redo the graphs or just leave them out otherwise people will just get confused.

can't. Its just the way office 2010 shows it

Oh really?
I googled "office 2010 charts change scale" and at least three of the top five links described how to change the scale of a chart in office 2010.
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