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arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
August 13 2009 13:23 GMT
#41
I hate reading these comments about him being stupid and stuff like that. First of all, it seems like most of you have read through the lines and didn't understand one thing.

He is complaining that in Starcraft it is hard to get into a position to actually play a game against some opponent.. That is right. It doesn't take 30 minutes to join a game at D level of course, but I know, as a person who can't host a game it takes some time to join one.

He even mentioned - he double clicks on the games and can't get into the game. Doesn't this sound familiar to you? Now, the best option for him of course would be to be able to host a game. If it is impossible there's one thing about bnet maybe he doesn't know. You have press join, double click some game and if it doesn't work in 10 seconds, go back to channel and press join again. Because this way you will get a fresh list of games and have a better chance to find an empty game.

And of course at the begining join just D/D- games, this is something you probably know already. Hope that helps.
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Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
August 13 2009 13:25 GMT
#42
yejin

since you claim to be D- and are having trouble getting iccup running, i suggest just playing some 2v2v2v2 BGH games or 3v3 BGH games on USEast. Not only is finding a game worlds easier, but it gives you the opportunity to work on broad fundamentals (macro/keeping your money at 0, unit composition, positional considerations, some micro, handspeed, hotkey comfort, basic multitasking). Moreover, they are SUPER fun especially if you have a friend! Once you've played a hundred or so games of that, your brain will feel much more relaxed and you'll probably be able to reach D+ with much more ease.

in other words, be glad you're having iccup troubles! go play some fun games so that you can take a break from your issues , bash some scrubs, AND improve!! :D
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
August 13 2009 13:25 GMT
#43
can you beat a computer?

what i recommend you do is get a pro replay of each of your matchups. you play terran, so obviously get a TvT, TvZ and TvP. in each of those games, assuming both of the players play standard, write down the terran build order. then, go into single player and execute this build order against a computer. if you do it perfectly you will have no trouble maintaining a D record. terran is one of those races where you seriously can win games just by macroing hard, so a great way to start is to just memorize a build order.
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
August 13 2009 13:26 GMT
#44
On August 13 2009 21:39 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2009 21:12 yejin wrote:
Stop saying I suck and not SC.

1. I know that
2. You didnt fucking read what I said

I said it's HARD to get a game running, harder than wc3, harder than most games. Why cant you take a critic about SC for christ sake ?

It is harder than WC3 (to get a game running), but I think you are exaggerating / having some bad luck.

In my experience, finding a D level game takes about 5 seconds on ICCUP. Hell, just create the game yourself and people will join almost instantly (as long as it's the MOTW).

Unless the MOTW sucks, like this week, all the games i've been seeing are on outsider.

But non-motw maps that usually attract a lot of people are python and destination, and you could probably get away with blue storm, othello, heartbreak ridge, and neo medusa. But don't make it on LT or some random map in the mappack.
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
August 13 2009 13:26 GMT
#45
I'm confused, you have the internet capabilities to play wc3 w/o lag but not to play starcraft? The set-up can be a bitch (especially if you're not computer oriented) but it's not particularly brutal. Can someone explain to me what forwarding my ports means? What are my ports, I honestly have no idea what that means but I would like to be able to host games
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
closed
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vatican City State491 Posts
August 13 2009 13:29 GMT
#46
Try turning off lag latency. It is nice, but for some people it causes gigantic lags. Of course most people will refuse to play with you if you turn it off (because this affects their "uber D+ micro"), but there is a chance that the lag will end.
SoulMarine
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States586 Posts
August 13 2009 13:30 GMT
#47
If you think it sucks and are so negative no one needs you here. Quit, I don't think people are concerned about some guy who can't play SC. Want to get better? Don't whine, go to Liquipedia and play games. Simple, amirite?
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KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
August 13 2009 13:40 GMT
#48
On August 13 2009 21:12 yejin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2009 21:09 Naib wrote:
[x] W3 player
[x] French
[x] the above translate into whining about SC being hard.

What more could you ask for?


I could ask for a blowjob

+ me being French is very relevant here. You wanna go into this direction, really, HUNGARY ?


Lol pwned.

But on-topic tho.
Imo ive been playing starcraft for years and i still suck, some people just are destined to suck at certain games(like me and you) and never get good at them unless u dedicate ur life to it(which we wont). Im only playing UMS on battle.net nowadays, im to shitty to do anything else.
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yejin
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
France493 Posts
August 13 2009 13:45 GMT
#49
Thank you very much to the people who understood my frustration and gave me information about Starcraft Bnet, ICCUP, BGH etc.

To all the haters:

I'm someone motivated, you judge me because I'm a WC3 player ? I watch the OSL, the MSL, the PL Finals. I play on Liquibet, I download replays, I play on hamachi with friends, I obs the games with better players to learn.

If you trashtalk people like me when they think something is hard to learn, that community is really fucked up.

Thanks to everyone else, see you on ICC
nospeech
yejin
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
France493 Posts
August 13 2009 13:48 GMT
#50
Oh and by the way, going "lol French, nice military" REALLY makes TL above WCReplays or 4Chan. Sad.
nospeech
Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-13 13:53:04
August 13 2009 13:52 GMT
#51
You come in on a starcraft fan website, saying starcraft is bad. What did you expect? We dont owe you anything you whiny little frenchie so stop acting like a victim. Get off your lazy ass and look things up (read: Liquipedia)
Aspiring British Caster / Masters Protoss
Kletus
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada580 Posts
August 13 2009 14:02 GMT
#52
How to host games on ICCUP:

1. Go into your router GUI by typing it in your browser, it's usually 192.168.2.1 or 192.168.1.1

2. You may need a username/password, these usually come in the box with the router on a peice of paper or in an instruction guide that came in the same box. If you can't find it, ask your dad or mom :3.

3. Locate the security settings/port forward/open ports, the router GUI is different for each supplier so if you have a hard time finding it, google.

4. Open port 6112 TCP/UDP for your PC. To check your IP address follow these steps:
i. hit windowskey+r
ii. type cmd and press enter.
iii. type in ipconfig, locate your local IPv4 address, that's it.

5. Log onto iccup, do a /motw and pick a map you like.

6. host a game, I use the title "1:1D motw no r"

7. ???

8. Come back to teamliquid and whine about 1a2a3a.
Your resistance only serves to make my carapace harder.
pubbanana
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3063 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-13 14:05:29
August 13 2009 14:03 GMT
#53
I actually agree with you, I get very annoyed with trying to play SC since there's basically no way in hell to get decent practice (unless you can speak Korean).
Wachet, stehet im Glauben, seid männlich und seid stark.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
August 13 2009 14:03 GMT
#54
Welcome to TL.net
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Lurgee
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia252 Posts
August 13 2009 14:04 GMT
#55
On August 13 2009 22:45 yejin wrote:
Thank you very much to the people who understood my frustration and gave me information about Starcraft Bnet, ICCUP, BGH etc.

To all the haters:

I'm someone motivated, you judge me because I'm a WC3 player ? I watch the OSL, the MSL, the PL Finals. I play on Liquibet, I download replays, I play on hamachi with friends, I obs the games with better players to learn.

If you trashtalk people like me when they think something is hard to learn, that community is really fucked up.

Thanks to everyone else, see you on ICC


Seriously Starcraft Sucks


We aren't judging you because you are a WC3 player haha.
yejin
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
France493 Posts
August 13 2009 14:06 GMT
#56
I can host at home (night) but not at the office (day). The best would be to have an IRC chan with D / D- players willing to custom game.

There are a few ICCUP channels like that but they were all sleepy when I went there.

My 6112 / 6114 is forwarded at home, I cant do that at work.
nospeech
hahajokes
Profile Joined August 2009
Burundi6 Posts
August 13 2009 14:06 GMT
#57
man don't play iccup

BGH >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iccup
hardeharhar
o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
August 13 2009 14:08 GMT
#58
On August 13 2009 22:45 yejin wrote:
If you trashtalk people like me when they think something is hard to learn, that community is really fucked up.

If you want to ask help, ask nicely. You don't come to a Starcraft community site and say something like "Starcraft sucks. It's hard to get games. It's hard to play the game. The game sucks."

Did you really expect people to react nicely? It's not what you were saying that caused people to trashtalk you. It's how you said it. Ask nicely and people answer nicely. Ask rudely and people answer rudely. Sure there are a couple of idiots and trolls here and there but those get dealt with most of the time.

Before you start calling this community fucked up, take a look at yourself and realize that it is you and your actions that are fucked up which is why you are not welcomed by most.
yejin
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
France493 Posts
August 13 2009 14:09 GMT
#59
On August 13 2009 21:17 dasanivan wrote:
eh, i don't understand what the difficulty is exactly with you and bnet. interface trouble?


refresh, double click, full, refresh double click, full, refresh double click D+, refresh double click, full, refresh, double click, kicked, refresh double click.

But yeah, I'm a whiny little bitch :D
nospeech
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-13 14:11:30
August 13 2009 14:10 GMT
#60
On August 13 2009 22:45 yejin wrote:
Thank you very much to the people who understood my frustration and gave me information about Starcraft Bnet, ICCUP, BGH etc.

To all the haters:

I'm someone motivated, you judge me because I'm a WC3 player ? I watch the OSL, the MSL, the PL Finals. I play on Liquibet, I download replays, I play on hamachi with friends, I obs the games with better players to learn.

If you trashtalk people like me when they think something is hard to learn, that community is really fucked up.

Thanks to everyone else, see you on ICC

you're probably the biggest idiot on TL I have ever seen, and the community comment is hilarious because WCR forums is probably the worst POS ever, i'd rather read 4chan

btw when I first learned about iccup in season 1 it took me literally 5minutes to download it including maps and starting a game, you should keep playing war3
You can't fight the feeling.
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