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Hello guys, welcome back on my blog!
After class, I decided to rush to Yongsan and wrote my name on the paper to have a sit for the StarLeague. I arrived there at 1:45 pm and there were already 64 people! (given that the match started at 6:30 pm...)
Actually, the ProLeague took place just before the tournament. Woongjin Stars vs hite SPARKYZ. I decided to watch the match a little bit but it was really boring. I don't know why, the match was not bad but... the temperature was really warm in the stadium, and I almost fell asleep...
Anyway, after the match, I met hite SPARKYZ with their fans. It was funny to talk with HakSoo. A really good guy but a little bit bad manner for some points. For example, I asked him what was his rank in iCCup, which difficulties he meet in general when he plays, etc... and ... his answers were really rude : "I'm A+, but iCCup is full of noob".
Horang2 and him started laughing a lot and really told honestly "A lot of progamers don't practice on that, the level is so low even if there are good players like Horan who is A Olympic". Well... it's hard to hear that, I was really amazed.
Maybe you guys knew already about that? I don't know. I asked him if Kim Taek Yong, Lee Jaedong, these kind of players use to play on iCCup and they answered "They don't have iCCup account". Then, we talked about how they will prepare the next match against Wemade FOX (Saturday). They seemed really confident, I can't wait to watch that!
After players left stadium, we were waiting for the beginning of the StarLeague. Almost 150 people subscribed on papers in order to find a sit... it was impressive. After that, we entered and watched the matches.
Everybody was waiting for the first set: MS vs Jaedong. An incredible match, and the SPARKYZ player managed to win. As all players who won a set, they signed a hat and droped it to spectators. As lucky as I am, MS sent the hat directly on me, it was really funny. I didn't move a lot, just hold my left arm.
Here, watch from 10 minutes, you will see that MS sends the hat and you will see me hold the hat with my arm, funny!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrGH6PY4REs
Here, pictures about the hat:
StarLeague logo.
"Bacchus StarLeague 2009. *Bacchus*. StarLeague since 1999".
Park Myung Soo's sign
Ahah seriously guy, look this sign. Really funny... it looks like a baby who wrote on the hat ahah!
Well after that, a friend to me got the hat too! He was next to me, he is a Bisu fan too. He got the hat after the match representing Bisu vs MenSol. Honnestly, a fucking lucky day for us!! But Bisu lost...
Here the video where you can see him catch the hat! Watch from 20:45!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66ipoH9okXQ
Tomorrow, we will go and watch the MSL, because there is an impressive match to follow: Bisu vs FanTaSy.
I hope all Bisu fans will cheer up, and forget his set today. Tomorrow I hope he will win!
Don't miss that!
  
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Wow.. Congrats on getting the hat =D
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Awesome blog man, you are so fortunate to have grabbed the hat.
Although i am sad that Jaedong lost the match, it's still awesome that you got the hat man, nice job!
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
Funny how Haksoo and Kyungmin (Horang2) were rude to you and yet all the times I've worked with the two of them they've been polite and accomodating (if a little shy in Kyungmin's case.) I wonder why that might be......
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You are the best Koreaphile. It wasn't luck you got that starleague hat, you earned it.
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On July 08 2009 22:09 NeverGG wrote:
Funny how Haksoo and Kyungmin (Horang2) were rude to you and yet all the times I've worked with the two of them they've been polite and accomodating (if a little shy in Kyungmin's case.) I wonder why that might be......
no need to be a dick
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On July 08 2009 22:09 NeverGG wrote:
Funny how Haksoo and Kyungmin (Horang2) were rude to you and yet all the times I've worked with the two of them they've been polite and accomodating (if a little shy in Kyungmin's case.) I wonder why that might be......
I meant that when I asked about their way to practice etc, they just told that a lot of progamers don't use iCCup because they dont manage to find the level that they need. I meant that I was surprised because I thought almost every pro played on iCCup. So when they talked about "A players are not really good for us", I was amazed becausehaving A on iCCup it's totally awesome right? and when you check the eSTRO player that they mentionned, he is really good.
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On July 08 2009 22:13 TommyG wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2009 22:09 NeverGG wrote:
Funny how Haksoo and Kyungmin (Horang2) were rude to you and yet all the times I've worked with the two of them they've been polite and accomodating (if a little shy in Kyungmin's case.) I wonder why that might be...... no need to be a dick
I was simply commenting on how they have both been fine with me in the past. It might've been a range of factors that contributed to their brutally honest attitudes (such as GoSu being a man as opposed to me being a woman, the pressure of the upcoming playoffs, their situation as players who do not get to see the most recognition/play time for the live events etc.)
I fail to see how stating this makes me a 'dick.' ^_^
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On July 08 2009 22:09 NeverGG wrote:
Funny how Haksoo and Kyungmin (Horang2) were rude to you and yet all the times I've worked with the two of them they've been polite and accomodating (if a little shy in Kyungmin's case.) I wonder why that might be......
This is a very carefully worded statement.
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On July 08 2009 22:16 NeverGG wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2009 22:13 TommyG wrote:On July 08 2009 22:09 NeverGG wrote:
Funny how Haksoo and Kyungmin (Horang2) were rude to you and yet all the times I've worked with the two of them they've been polite and accomodating (if a little shy in Kyungmin's case.) I wonder why that might be...... no need to be a dick I was simply commenting on how they have both been fine with me in the past. It might've been a range of factors that contributed to their brutally honest attitudes (such as GoSu being a man as opposed to me being a woman, the pressure of the upcoming playoffs, their situation as players who do not get to see the most recognition/play time for the live events etc.) I fail to see how stating this makes me a 'dick.' ^_^
seriously it doesn't take much to read between the lines
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On July 08 2009 22:15 GoSu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2009 22:09 NeverGG wrote:
Funny how Haksoo and Kyungmin (Horang2) were rude to you and yet all the times I've worked with the two of them they've been polite and accomodating (if a little shy in Kyungmin's case.) I wonder why that might be...... I meant that when I asked about their way to practice etc, they just told that a lot of progamers don't use iCCup because they dont manage to find the level that they need. I meant that I was surprised because I thought almost every pro played on iCCup. So when they talked about "A players are not really good for us", I was amazed becausehaving A on iCCup it's totally awesome right? and when you check the eSTRO player that they mentionned, he is really good.
What's bad mannered about saying that ICCUP sucks provided you're a korean pro gamer? It's the truth for gods sake, because the korean SC progamers just own ICCUP.
Now you get people thinking Horang2 and Haksoo are some bad mannered dicks when in fact they were just stating that ICCUP is not a good place to practice for them.
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On July 08 2009 22:42 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2009 22:15 GoSu wrote:On July 08 2009 22:09 NeverGG wrote:
Funny how Haksoo and Kyungmin (Horang2) were rude to you and yet all the times I've worked with the two of them they've been polite and accomodating (if a little shy in Kyungmin's case.) I wonder why that might be...... I meant that when I asked about their way to practice etc, they just told that a lot of progamers don't use iCCup because they dont manage to find the level that they need. I meant that I was surprised because I thought almost every pro played on iCCup. So when they talked about "A players are not really good for us", I was amazed becausehaving A on iCCup it's totally awesome right? and when you check the eSTRO player that they mentionned, he is really good. What's bad mannered about saying that ICCUP sucks provided you're a korean pro gamer? It's the truth for gods sake, because the korean SC progamers just own ICCUP. Now you get people thinking Horang2 and Haksoo are some bad mannered dicks when in fact they were just stating that ICCUP is not a good place to practice for them.
But towards players like ForGG, estro players etc who are still on ladder? These are really good and keep playing on the ladder~
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Braavos36375 Posts
On July 08 2009 22:16 NeverGG wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2009 22:13 TommyG wrote:On July 08 2009 22:09 NeverGG wrote:
Funny how Haksoo and Kyungmin (Horang2) were rude to you and yet all the times I've worked with the two of them they've been polite and accomodating (if a little shy in Kyungmin's case.) I wonder why that might be...... no need to be a dick I was simply commenting on how they have both been fine with me in the past. It might've been a range of factors that contributed to their brutally honest attitudes (such as GoSu being a man as opposed to me being a woman, the pressure of the upcoming playoffs, their situation as players who do not get to see the most recognition/play time for the live events etc.) I fail to see how stating this makes me a 'dick.' ^_^
It's an extremely rude comment that insinuates that Gosu is somehow inciting two pros to be rude to him despite them being very nice to you. It's either a hidden brag (they are nice to me but rude to everyone else) or its an insult (they're nice to everyone else but rude to Gosu).
Please don't say you didn't intend it to come off that way, because I don't see how anyone could read it in any other way. Our users aren't stupid, and you know exactly what you were implying. Consider this an official warning.
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Grats on the hat. The only benefit from playing on iccup for them is to play a wider selection of players, but when they limit themselves to their teams they atleast weed out the possiblity of bad games taking up their time.
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Go easy on her, getting out fangirled by a frenchman isn't the easiest thing to deal with, I would think a little cattiness is only natural when a newcomer begins rocketing up the fangirl power rank
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On July 08 2009 22:16 NeverGG wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2009 22:13 TommyG wrote:On July 08 2009 22:09 NeverGG wrote:
Funny how Haksoo and Kyungmin (Horang2) were rude to you and yet all the times I've worked with the two of them they've been polite and accomodating (if a little shy in Kyungmin's case.) I wonder why that might be...... no need to be a dick I was simply commenting on how they have both been fine with me in the past. It might've been a range of factors that contributed to their brutally honest attitudes (such as GoSu being a man as opposed to me being a woman, the pressure of the upcoming playoffs, their situation as players who do not get to see the most recognition/play time for the live events etc.) I fail to see how stating this makes me a 'dick.' ^_^
Seems like you're getting alot of heat in this thread because you're a woman. When women are "bothersome" guys tend to let them know that they are out of line very fast, and tada.
And while I thought your comment towards gosu was slightly condenscending I thought maybe there's something personal behind it and didn't give it much thought. I have no idea why HotBid would officially warn you for this. After everything you do for the community I think you are being treated rather badly here.
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i saw you on TV today. nice grab with the hat
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
Ah, can barely see, but nice! You got the hat @_@
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How much for the hat? =x i will someday attend a proleague game, even if it is Starcraft 3 by then.
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Braavos36375 Posts
On July 08 2009 23:07 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2009 22:16 NeverGG wrote:On July 08 2009 22:13 TommyG wrote:On July 08 2009 22:09 NeverGG wrote:
Funny how Haksoo and Kyungmin (Horang2) were rude to you and yet all the times I've worked with the two of them they've been polite and accomodating (if a little shy in Kyungmin's case.) I wonder why that might be...... no need to be a dick I was simply commenting on how they have both been fine with me in the past. It might've been a range of factors that contributed to their brutally honest attitudes (such as GoSu being a man as opposed to me being a woman, the pressure of the upcoming playoffs, their situation as players who do not get to see the most recognition/play time for the live events etc.) I fail to see how stating this makes me a 'dick.' ^_^ Seems like you're getting alot of heat in this thread because you're a woman. When women are "bothersome" guys tend to let them know that they are out of line very fast, and tada. And while I thought your comment towards gosu was slightly condenscending I thought maybe there's something personal behind it and didn't give it much thought. I have no idea why HotBid would officially warn you for this. After everything you do for the community I think you are being treated rather badly here.
My warning of her had nothing to do with the fact that she's a girl, and we fully appreciate all the things she contributes to TL. However, while contributing does give you a bit more of a leash posting wise, it is not a complete shield from criticism.
I don't want to derail this blog any more, so I'm going to ban discussion about this subject because NeverGG and I worked this out via PM. This will be the last post about this matter in this blog. If you still want to discuss it, feel free to PM me. If you want to white-knight for her more, you can PM her (other girls on TL include lilsusie, uncontrolable, and Smix, fyi). Thanks.
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Dont forget Ilvy... 
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On July 08 2009 22:00 GoSu wrote:
For example, I asked him what was his rank in iCCup, which difficulties he meet in general when he plays, etc... and ... his answers were really rude : "I'm A+, but iCCup is full of noob".
Did you understand his tone? The connotation of what he said? How can you be so sure that he was being "rude" in what he was saying? Was it simply his use of the word "noob"? Because from what you're telling us, I don't see it in the least bit rude.
On July 08 2009 22:00 GoSu wrote:
Ahah seriously guy, look this sign. Really funny... it looks like a baby who wrote on the hat ahah!
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In fact, I found this a lot more rude than what HakSoo said. It's all based on interpretation. How can you be so sure that you're not mistaken?
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
Oh come on, there's nothing wrong with what he wrote this time. I'd be jealous of that hat no matter who signed on it, or how.
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On July 09 2009 00:12 BanZu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2009 22:00 GoSu wrote:
For example, I asked him what was his rank in iCCup, which difficulties he meet in general when he plays, etc... and ... his answers were really rude : "I'm A+, but iCCup is full of noob". Did you understand his tone? The connotation of what he said? How can you be so sure that he was being "rude" in what he was saying? Was it simply his use of the word "noob"? Because from what you're telling us, I don't see it in the least bit rude. Show nested quote +On July 08 2009 22:00 GoSu wrote:
Ahah seriously guy, look this sign. Really funny... it looks like a baby who wrote on the hat ahah!
. In fact, I found this a lot more rude than what HakSoo said. It's all based on interpretation. How can you be so sure that you're not mistaken?
Well maybe you right on these points yes, and maybe I did mistake in my thoughts. About the sign, I didn't say that in bad way (maybe like HakSoo too). I just noticed the way how he wrote that. It's cute and I guess, writing on a hat is totally not confortable. I m really happy to have his sign of course, he is great player.
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
Be sure to wear it the next time you go to Yongsan!
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On July 09 2009 00:22 GoSu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2009 00:12 BanZu wrote:On July 08 2009 22:00 GoSu wrote:
For example, I asked him what was his rank in iCCup, which difficulties he meet in general when he plays, etc... and ... his answers were really rude : "I'm A+, but iCCup is full of noob". Did you understand his tone? The connotation of what he said? How can you be so sure that he was being "rude" in what he was saying? Was it simply his use of the word "noob"? Because from what you're telling us, I don't see it in the least bit rude. On July 08 2009 22:00 GoSu wrote:
Ahah seriously guy, look this sign. Really funny... it looks like a baby who wrote on the hat ahah!
. In fact, I found this a lot more rude than what HakSoo said. It's all based on interpretation. How can you be so sure that you're not mistaken? Well maybe you right on these points yes, and maybe I did mistake in my thoughts. About the sign, I didn't say that in bad way (maybe like HakSoo too). I just noticed the way how he wrote that. It's cute and I guess, writing on a hat is totally not confortable. I m really happy to have his sign of course, he is great player.
Ah, see, that's what I thought. Because of the differences in culture/upbringing/experience/etc, everyone will interpret what people say (HakSoo, NeverGG, you, etc) differently. Don't be too quick to jump to conclusions, don't be afraid to give people the benefit of the doubt until you're sure.
Congratulations on your hat, I know that if I had it I'd gladly wear it (even though I NEVER wear hats).
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Ah, spoilers please^^
Nice hat though, I like how you managed to get a hat over the guy that jumped real high
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I don't see how that is rude...
These players are professional and they have played televised games for their teams. They practice for many hours a day, everyday and there are only so many strategies out there. Although Horang2 cheese very, very often, he is undeniably skilled (any player who can make it to the round of 16 of an individual league is skilled).
The top foreigners can make it to A, so it's obvious that B team pro gamers can make it that high. It's the same as if NBA stars came to play in park in Harlem or something. An amateur might be able to pull off some fancy moves, but at the end of the day, the professional is going to beat him down.
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Does Chill also reside in Harlem?
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konadora
Singapore66161 Posts
On July 09 2009 00:46 ghostWriter wrote:
(any player who can make it to the round of 16 of an individual league is skilled).
Tester... lol
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haha that was such an awesome read.
Congrats on the OSL hat dude ;D
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Oh man Fake Yellow's handwriting looks like mine. Hahahaha.
Grats on the hat. That's pretty awesome.
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On July 08 2009 22:09 NeverGG wrote:
Funny how Haksoo and Kyungmin (Horang2) were rude to you and yet all the times I've worked with the two of them they've been polite and accomodating (if a little shy in Kyungmin's case.) I wonder why that might be......
SHE'S JUST MINDGAMIN YOU SON
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On July 09 2009 00:59 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2009 00:46 ghostWriter wrote:
(any player who can make it to the round of 16 of an individual league is skilled). Tester... lol
Well, there are always exceptions to any rule. But most players are worthy...
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Anyway, this day was really special about matches... a lot of things that we didn't excpect, most of all about Jaedong and Bisu =/...
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Ill buy that hat from you! name your price
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
ooo yarnc signed osl hat
wow congrats GoSu!
You really are getting the best of everything in Korea during your stay here :D
Lucky you!
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United States22883 Posts
Wow, I just saw this and that hat is really fucking cool. Grats. If they hadn't put the emblem on the sides and made the stripes red, it would be a wear everyday sort of hat.
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You got the hat?? you're life is complette the way i see it
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Started reading, saw Hite Sparkyz, and suddenly I realized I had stumbled upon the work of a necromancer. :O
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Is op this guy? (The french dude who is expected to go progamer while he's D+ or something and build a team in korea)
bonus:
+ Show Spoiler +who is going to pwn the world with Protoss?
who is going to pwn the korean starcraft pro-gamer scene after february?
who is going to pwn YOU and YOUR ASS pussies?
it's him
the only one
the master of disaster
PIERRE-JEAN ORGUES
ToaD
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