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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
June 12 2009 06:20 GMT
#101
ONE POINT TWO ONE JIGAWATTS!
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Hydrolisko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Vanuatu1659 Posts
June 12 2009 08:36 GMT
#102
On June 11 2009 19:23 mahnini wrote:
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On June 11 2009 18:40 Hydrolisko wrote:
wow... you'd think one day American carmakers would get it... if you'd just make cars that are remotely attractive, you might actually sell some...

The Charger and the 300 are absolutely disgusting...

The Mercedes obv trumps all here. But if you want a better sport/luxury bargain you should go for a low/mid level BMW. For pure sports cars I'd look at VW, Audi or Infiniti. Anything below that is probably not really worth the "sports car" label, and anything above is probably too expensive. For SUV imo the best bang for the buck right now is the Audi Q5. But if you like the bigger, more rugged type SUV you should take a look at the Mercedes GLK. It's surprisingly cheap.

HAHAHAHAHHA

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I don't really understand this post.

I am American myself lol. American cars are just plain fugly. I said nothing about speed. And to respond to the VW sportscar question, I am referring to the GTI and GLI. I'm talking about affordable sports cars btw not Corvettes, Vipers, that would belong to the too expensive category I referred to. Some of you kids get offended too easily lol, and try reading the entire post first... lol
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24698 Posts
June 12 2009 10:59 GMT
#103
On June 12 2009 17:36 Hydrolisko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2009 19:23 mahnini wrote:
On June 11 2009 18:40 Hydrolisko wrote:
wow... you'd think one day American carmakers would get it... if you'd just make cars that are remotely attractive, you might actually sell some...

The Charger and the 300 are absolutely disgusting...

The Mercedes obv trumps all here. But if you want a better sport/luxury bargain you should go for a low/mid level BMW. For pure sports cars I'd look at VW, Audi or Infiniti. Anything below that is probably not really worth the "sports car" label, and anything above is probably too expensive. For SUV imo the best bang for the buck right now is the Audi Q5. But if you like the bigger, more rugged type SUV you should take a look at the Mercedes GLK. It's surprisingly cheap.

HAHAHAHAHHA

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I don't really understand this post.

I am American myself lol. American cars are just plain fugly. I said nothing about speed. And to respond to the VW sportscar question, I am referring to the GTI and GLI. I'm talking about affordable sports cars btw not Corvettes, Vipers, that would belong to the too expensive category I referred to. Some of you kids get offended too easily lol, and try reading the entire post first... lol

You referred to vw for having 'pure' sportscars lol...

GTI lawl
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Hydrolisko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Vanuatu1659 Posts
June 12 2009 12:18 GMT
#104
If I did confuse the pseudo-enthusiasts out there I apologize. But if you read the entire post it's pretty clear what I was getting at. I was referring to the sports/luxury, sports only ('pure'), luxury only class distinction for car shopping purposes. This is a thread about car shopping knowledge not car knowledge. Posting a list of top speeds, horsepowers, 0-60s etc is utterly useless here. The dude has a budget and I posted based on that. I'd be happy to talk about the Corvettes, the Vipers or even the Bugattis, Koeniseggs, or the Mclarens if you wanna talk dream cars with dream specs, but this is the wrong thread to do that.

And the GTI is an awesome bargain in the affordable sports only class.

And come on now, you can't deny American cars, even the powerful ones, are pretty damn fugly. I, as an American, readily admit this fact in humility.

mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
June 12 2009 14:32 GMT
#105
On June 12 2009 21:18 Hydrolisko wrote:
If I did confuse the pseudo-enthusiasts out there I apologize.

condescending
But if you read the entire post it's pretty clear what I was getting at. I was referring to the sports/luxury, sports only ('pure'), luxury only class distinction for car shopping purposes. This is a thread about car shopping knowledge not car knowledge.

dodge
Posting a list of top speeds, horsepowers, 0-60s etc is utterly useless here. The dude has a budget and I posted based on that. I'd be happy to talk about the Corvettes, the Vipers or even the Bugattis, Koeniseggs, or the Mclarens if you wanna talk dream cars with dream specs, but this is the wrong thread to do that.

name drop

And the GTI is an awesome bargain in the affordable sports only class.

And come on now, you can't deny American cars, even the powerful ones, are pretty damn fugly. I, as an American, readily admit this fact in humility.

only content of post which happens to state nothing having to do with original quoted post
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
June 12 2009 14:38 GMT
#106
On June 12 2009 17:36 Hydrolisko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2009 19:23 mahnini wrote:
On June 11 2009 18:40 Hydrolisko wrote:
wow... you'd think one day American carmakers would get it... if you'd just make cars that are remotely attractive, you might actually sell some...

The Charger and the 300 are absolutely disgusting...

The Mercedes obv trumps all here. But if you want a better sport/luxury bargain you should go for a low/mid level BMW. For pure sports cars I'd look at VW, Audi or Infiniti. Anything below that is probably not really worth the "sports car" label, and anything above is probably too expensive. For SUV imo the best bang for the buck right now is the Audi Q5. But if you like the bigger, more rugged type SUV you should take a look at the Mercedes GLK. It's surprisingly cheap.

HAHAHAHAHHA

[image loading]


I don't really understand this post.

I am American myself lol. American cars are just plain fugly. I said nothing about speed. And to respond to the VW sportscar question, I am referring to the GTI and GLI. I'm talking about affordable sports cars btw not Corvettes, Vipers, that would belong to the too expensive category I referred to. Some of you kids get offended too easily lol, and try reading the entire post first... lol

lol. you understand that vettes run like 40k right? which is the price of a well equip mid level audi or infiniti. i dont care about your preferences but considering vw, audi and infinite as affordable pure sports cars is kinda lol
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24698 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-12 20:50:52
June 12 2009 20:50 GMT
#107
So far the only meaningful thing I've gotten out of Hydrolisko's posts is that he thinks American cars are ugly, and assumes that everyone else agrees with him.

He also must be really old since he thinks everyone else is a kid.

edit: mahnini you haven't been able to get a corvette for 40k for a while XD

50k and you can get one though.
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mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
June 12 2009 21:07 GMT
#108
i swear it was like 42kish like 2 years ago

inflation sucks
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3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
June 12 2009 23:58 GMT
#109
I don't really like any of those, tbh.

But I'd go with the Mercedes.
PriitM
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Algeria181 Posts
June 13 2009 18:23 GMT
#110
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CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-16 11:14:33
June 16 2009 11:11 GMT
#111
One of my fave cars EVER is the SL 55 AMG. So I really really get where the OP is coming from. I would pick that merc over anything else posted in there, even if it's not as cute as the SL. It's still miles ahead of all the others in terms of looks & build quality.

Also, the Z06 is faster around a track, in a straight line and it brakes faster than the new Nissan GTR, that being said, if I were to pick, I'd STILL pick the GTR over the more expensive Z06. It's because 99% of american cars are FUCKING UGLY. Deal with it. Seriously.

The only pretty looking car I've seen past '90 was the Viper SRT. I could go with this, and most of the '69 power models. Those are gorgeous cars. But it seems that all the good american designers died somewhere in between.
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nomnomnom
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mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
June 16 2009 15:52 GMT
#112
On June 16 2009 20:11 CubEdIn wrote:
One of my fave cars EVER is the SL 55 AMG. So I really really get where the OP is coming from. I would pick that merc over anything else posted in there, even if it's not as cute as the SL. It's still miles ahead of all the others in terms of looks & build quality.

Also, the Z06 is faster around a track, in a straight line and it brakes faster than the new Nissan GTR, that being said, if I were to pick, I'd STILL pick the GTR over the more expensive Z06. It's because 99% of american cars are FUCKING UGLY. Deal with it. Seriously.

The only pretty looking car I've seen past '90 was the Viper SRT. I could go with this, and most of the '69 power models. Those are gorgeous cars. But it seems that all the good american designers died somewhere in between.
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nomnomnom

FIRST OF ALL KID, IT ISN'T THE Z06. IT'S THE ZR1. SECONDLY, DID YOU JUST INSULT THE LOOKS OF AMERICAN CARS AND SAY YOU'D PREFER A GTR? COME ON KID, A GTR, THE MOST BLAND LOOKING CAR EVER. FURTHER, LOOKS ARE SUBJECTIVE, FOR EXAMPLE MOST PEOPLE IN AMERICA WOULD PROBABLY THINK EURO MINIHATCHES LOOK LIKE SHIT AND GUESS WHAT THEY DO. YOUR ENTIRE CONTINENT LACKS TASTE HA HA HA HA. FINALLY, THE THING AMERICAN CARS DO BEST IS GIVE YOU AWESOME PERFORMANCE FOR LOW PRICE BUT THEN EUROS JUST COMPLAIN ABOUT THE LACK OF QUALITY INTERIOR WHILE WANKING TO THEIR ELISES AND PAYING $30K FOR A HOT HATCH. ENJOY.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2297 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-16 16:47:14
June 16 2009 16:36 GMT
#113
On June 17 2009 00:52 mahnini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2009 20:11 CubEdIn wrote:
One of my fave cars EVER is the SL 55 AMG. So I really really get where the OP is coming from. I would pick that merc over anything else posted in there, even if it's not as cute as the SL. It's still miles ahead of all the others in terms of looks & build quality.

Also, the Z06 is faster around a track, in a straight line and it brakes faster than the new Nissan GTR, that being said, if I were to pick, I'd STILL pick the GTR over the more expensive Z06. It's because 99% of american cars are FUCKING UGLY. Deal with it. Seriously.

The only pretty looking car I've seen past '90 was the Viper SRT. I could go with this, and most of the '69 power models. Those are gorgeous cars. But it seems that all the good american designers died somewhere in between.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
nomnomnom

FIRST OF ALL KID, IT ISN'T THE Z06. IT'S THE ZR1. SECONDLY, DID YOU JUST INSULT THE LOOKS OF AMERICAN CARS AND SAY YOU'D PREFER A GTR? COME ON KID, A GTR, THE MOST BLAND LOOKING CAR EVER. FURTHER, LOOKS ARE SUBJECTIVE, FOR EXAMPLE MOST PEOPLE IN AMERICA WOULD PROBABLY THINK EURO MINIHATCHES LOOK LIKE SHIT AND GUESS WHAT THEY DO. YOUR ENTIRE CONTINENT LACKS TASTE HA HA HA HA. FINALLY, THE THING AMERICAN CARS DO BEST IS GIVE YOU AWESOME PERFORMANCE FOR LOW PRICE BUT THEN EUROS JUST COMPLAIN ABOUT THE LACK OF QUALITY INTERIOR WHILE WANKING TO THEIR ELISES AND PAYING $30K FOR A HOT HATCH. ENJOY.


mahnini u suck at cars.


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and I agree that the Viper was a really GOOD good looking car, maybe the best americans ever built. That and Ford Mustang aka "Eleanor".

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Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
June 16 2009 16:52 GMT
#114
On June 17 2009 01:36 ffswowsucks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2009 00:52 mahnini wrote:
On June 16 2009 20:11 CubEdIn wrote:
One of my fave cars EVER is the SL 55 AMG. So I really really get where the OP is coming from. I would pick that merc over anything else posted in there, even if it's not as cute as the SL. It's still miles ahead of all the others in terms of looks & build quality.

Also, the Z06 is faster around a track, in a straight line and it brakes faster than the new Nissan GTR, that being said, if I were to pick, I'd STILL pick the GTR over the more expensive Z06. It's because 99% of american cars are FUCKING UGLY. Deal with it. Seriously.

The only pretty looking car I've seen past '90 was the Viper SRT. I could go with this, and most of the '69 power models. Those are gorgeous cars. But it seems that all the good american designers died somewhere in between.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
nomnomnom

FIRST OF ALL KID, IT ISN'T THE Z06. IT'S THE ZR1. SECONDLY, DID YOU JUST INSULT THE LOOKS OF AMERICAN CARS AND SAY YOU'D PREFER A GTR? COME ON KID, A GTR, THE MOST BLAND LOOKING CAR EVER. FURTHER, LOOKS ARE SUBJECTIVE, FOR EXAMPLE MOST PEOPLE IN AMERICA WOULD PROBABLY THINK EURO MINIHATCHES LOOK LIKE SHIT AND GUESS WHAT THEY DO. YOUR ENTIRE CONTINENT LACKS TASTE HA HA HA HA. FINALLY, THE THING AMERICAN CARS DO BEST IS GIVE YOU AWESOME PERFORMANCE FOR LOW PRICE BUT THEN EUROS JUST COMPLAIN ABOUT THE LACK OF QUALITY INTERIOR WHILE WANKING TO THEIR ELISES AND PAYING $30K FOR A HOT HATCH. ENJOY.


mahnini u suck at cars.


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I second that, besides the "THE THING AMERICAN CARS DO BEST IS GIVE YOU AWESOME PERFORMANCE FOR LOW PRICE" is a total bullshit. This is exactly the problem - why do you think there are only like 3 Dodge Challenger in total in Germany? The car sucks, its not a good performance for low price, because the guys who made have never seen a normal european road with a lot of twists and corners, in fact those guys dont even know where Europe is. The hole argument is pointless, because the US cars are perfect for the states, they are part of your culture and have wonderful performance on your roads, but here in Europe, the muscle cars draw attention in the way the woman with the beard in the circus does it - they are just outlandish and different but performance-wise they suck on our roads. As I said previously there are indeed some great american cars in the last years - like ZR1, but again nobody will buy it here in europe. The person with the money to afford this car will buy M3/5 or AMG without even asking himself if there is a cheaper american car that could give better thrill.
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mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-16 17:13:31
June 16 2009 17:10 GMT
#115
On June 17 2009 01:36 ffswowsucks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2009 00:52 mahnini wrote:
On June 16 2009 20:11 CubEdIn wrote:
One of my fave cars EVER is the SL 55 AMG. So I really really get where the OP is coming from. I would pick that merc over anything else posted in there, even if it's not as cute as the SL. It's still miles ahead of all the others in terms of looks & build quality.

Also, the Z06 is faster around a track, in a straight line and it brakes faster than the new Nissan GTR, that being said, if I were to pick, I'd STILL pick the GTR over the more expensive Z06. It's because 99% of american cars are FUCKING UGLY. Deal with it. Seriously.

The only pretty looking car I've seen past '90 was the Viper SRT. I could go with this, and most of the '69 power models. Those are gorgeous cars. But it seems that all the good american designers died somewhere in between.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
nomnomnom

FIRST OF ALL KID, IT ISN'T THE Z06. IT'S THE ZR1. SECONDLY, DID YOU JUST INSULT THE LOOKS OF AMERICAN CARS AND SAY YOU'D PREFER A GTR? COME ON KID, A GTR, THE MOST BLAND LOOKING CAR EVER. FURTHER, LOOKS ARE SUBJECTIVE, FOR EXAMPLE MOST PEOPLE IN AMERICA WOULD PROBABLY THINK EURO MINIHATCHES LOOK LIKE SHIT AND GUESS WHAT THEY DO. YOUR ENTIRE CONTINENT LACKS TASTE HA HA HA HA. FINALLY, THE THING AMERICAN CARS DO BEST IS GIVE YOU AWESOME PERFORMANCE FOR LOW PRICE BUT THEN EUROS JUST COMPLAIN ABOUT THE LACK OF QUALITY INTERIOR WHILE WANKING TO THEIR ELISES AND PAYING $30K FOR A HOT HATCH. ENJOY.


mahnini u suck at cars.


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cool picture of a production gtr bro OH WAIT

On June 17 2009 01:52 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2009 01:36 ffswowsucks wrote:
On June 17 2009 00:52 mahnini wrote:
On June 16 2009 20:11 CubEdIn wrote:
One of my fave cars EVER is the SL 55 AMG. So I really really get where the OP is coming from. I would pick that merc over anything else posted in there, even if it's not as cute as the SL. It's still miles ahead of all the others in terms of looks & build quality.

Also, the Z06 is faster around a track, in a straight line and it brakes faster than the new Nissan GTR, that being said, if I were to pick, I'd STILL pick the GTR over the more expensive Z06. It's because 99% of american cars are FUCKING UGLY. Deal with it. Seriously.

The only pretty looking car I've seen past '90 was the Viper SRT. I could go with this, and most of the '69 power models. Those are gorgeous cars. But it seems that all the good american designers died somewhere in between.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
nomnomnom

FIRST OF ALL KID, IT ISN'T THE Z06. IT'S THE ZR1. SECONDLY, DID YOU JUST INSULT THE LOOKS OF AMERICAN CARS AND SAY YOU'D PREFER A GTR? COME ON KID, A GTR, THE MOST BLAND LOOKING CAR EVER. FURTHER, LOOKS ARE SUBJECTIVE, FOR EXAMPLE MOST PEOPLE IN AMERICA WOULD PROBABLY THINK EURO MINIHATCHES LOOK LIKE SHIT AND GUESS WHAT THEY DO. YOUR ENTIRE CONTINENT LACKS TASTE HA HA HA HA. FINALLY, THE THING AMERICAN CARS DO BEST IS GIVE YOU AWESOME PERFORMANCE FOR LOW PRICE BUT THEN EUROS JUST COMPLAIN ABOUT THE LACK OF QUALITY INTERIOR WHILE WANKING TO THEIR ELISES AND PAYING $30K FOR A HOT HATCH. ENJOY.


mahnini u suck at cars.


[image loading]

I second that, besides the "THE THING AMERICAN CARS DO BEST IS GIVE YOU AWESOME PERFORMANCE FOR LOW PRICE" is a total bullshit. This is exactly the problem - why do you think there are only like 3 Dodge Challenger in total in Germany? The car sucks, its not a good performance for low price, because the guys who made have never seen a normal european road with a lot of twists and corners, in fact those guys dont even know where Europe is. The hole argument is pointless, because the US cars are perfect for the states, they are part of your culture and have wonderful performance on your roads, but here in Europe, the muscle cars draw attention in the way the woman with the beard in the circus does it - they are just outlandish and different but performance-wise they suck on our roads. As I said previously there are indeed some great american cars in the last years - like ZR1, but again nobody will buy it here in europe. The person with the money to afford this car will buy M3/5 or AMG without even asking himself if there is a cheaper american car that could give better thrill.

proved my point lol
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2297 Posts
June 16 2009 17:15 GMT
#116
You quoted so much just to say he proved your point, gg no re.
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-16 17:23:15
June 16 2009 17:20 GMT
#117
On June 17 2009 02:15 ffswowsucks wrote:
You quoted so much just to say he proved your point, gg no re.

that' cause i agree with most of what he wrote which is that the different continents build different cars and that for some reason everyone in europe thinks europeans cars are so superior.

also the whole american cars cant turn thing is so old tired and inaccurate
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
Texas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Germany2388 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-16 18:40:03
June 16 2009 18:10 GMT
#118
On June 12 2009 06:55 ffswowsucks wrote:
if what micronesia said is true then my choice would be the BMW M3 '03 or the Nissan 350Z. Porsche boxster is not a family car and its 2 seated. Also dunno if u could get a very nice Honda Civic type - R (not the new one , the previous version, if u look for it on youtube and in top gear the guy reviewing it says the old one is much better than the new one in handling and they only added 1hp in the newer version and the new one is a bit slower).

Btw I myself want to buy a new car. VW scirocco 1.4 160hp with a 500euro upgrading it to 220hp. I love that car ~.~


scirocco r with 265hp coming soon.


if u want to have a sports car with some luxury, pick e55 amg. its fast, has quality of w211 series and some nice extras (and goes past 155mp/h
those 5+l engines lack torque and need much gas compared to mercedes v8 kompressor

those 5.7 hemi v8 are slow compared to the benz. we have jeep commander with 5.7, had 300c with 3.8 (i think) and jeep commander 3.0crd (which was more fun to drive). charger/turbo missing in those big engines. nice cars tho but not good choice if u r into real fast cars

disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-16 18:57:15
June 16 2009 18:55 GMT
#119
On June 17 2009 02:20 mahnini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2009 02:15 ffswowsucks wrote:
You quoted so much just to say he proved your point, gg no re.

that' cause i agree with most of what he wrote which is that the different continents build different cars and that for some reason everyone in europe thinks europeans cars are so superior.

also the whole american cars cant turn thing is so old tired and inaccurate


Maybe its true but half a century must past till the stereotype is broken. Performance was not defining feature of the american cars, because of that today's achievement of the US car makers remain unnoticed. Simple example - the Ultimate Aero, or what was its name, is the fastest production car in the world right now. But nobody gives a shit, because of the Bugatti Vayron. The european car is much more exclusive to the point that the performance of the US car is completely ignored. Cadilac CTS - amazing car, that can corner well, will it be a rival of the BMW M5 ? No. Maybe its cheaper but it feels cheaper as well. I think the only american supercar that is taken seriously in europe is the ford GT40, simple because it has a racing history on Le Mans, beating the Ferraris for like 4 years in a row, besides I find the GT40 very pretty and extremely cool. Not that I dont like amerikan cars, I will gladly have one, but here in Europe, you just cant, its still somewhat not...acceptable
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mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
June 16 2009 20:26 GMT
#120
On June 17 2009 03:55 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2009 02:20 mahnini wrote:
On June 17 2009 02:15 ffswowsucks wrote:
You quoted so much just to say he proved your point, gg no re.

that' cause i agree with most of what he wrote which is that the different continents build different cars and that for some reason everyone in europe thinks europeans cars are so superior.

also the whole american cars cant turn thing is so old tired and inaccurate


Maybe its true but half a century must past till the stereotype is broken. Performance was not defining feature of the american cars, because of that today's achievement of the US car makers remain unnoticed. Simple example - the Ultimate Aero, or what was its name, is the fastest production car in the world right now. But nobody gives a shit, because of the Bugatti Vayron. The european car is much more exclusive to the point that the performance of the US car is completely ignored. Cadilac CTS - amazing car, that can corner well, will it be a rival of the BMW M5 ? No. Maybe its cheaper but it feels cheaper as well. I think the only american supercar that is taken seriously in europe is the ford GT40, simple because it has a racing history on Le Mans, beating the Ferraris for like 4 years in a row, besides I find the GT40 very pretty and extremely cool. Not that I dont like amerikan cars, I will gladly have one, but here in Europe, you just cant, its still somewhat not...acceptable

of course. you cant argue that they arent viable alternatives though. much of the anti american hate has been 'oh they are ugly' because that's really all you can say anymore. cobalt ss camaro ss cts-v z06 zr1 all these cars undercut their european competition in terms of price (at least in the US, i dont know how much they are in europe) but perform much better. are they the most luxurious all round cars? of course not. but in terms of pure engineering it's amazing what they can do and that, for most people, is what constitutes a "better" car. regardless, everyone has their biases / favorite brands etc. i just dislike the amount of unfounded hate for american cars.
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