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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1281313/
Basically this show, tries to compare different "fighters" from different times in history, and through testing and simulation, determine who would win in a battle. It may sound a bit cheesy, but the show itself is really great, they do so much awesome things, and you get a good look into the different fighting styles.
They test 5 different weapons from each fighting style, and also dividing them into long range, close range, medium range.
So far, 4 episodes have been broadcasted, and I have seen 3 of them, and looking forward to watching the fourth tonight. So far, this different matchups are
Spartan vs Ninja
Samurai vs Viking
Gladiator vs Apache
Knight vs Pirate
So if you are into basic discovery programs, and like to see different weapons implemented on defenceloss simulationdolls, then this is the program for you, almost like mythbusters.
Looking at the IMDB page, this show will have 8 episodes, so there are still 4 more matchups to be revealed, I really do wonder what they will be.. nm, IMDB episode list tells me
5: Yakuza vs Mafia
6: Green Beret vs Spetnaz this I think will be a cool one
7: Maori warrior vs Shaolin Monk
8: William Wallace vs Shaka Zulu (I have no idea who he is)
9: Taliban vs IRA
I really do wish they would compare the winners, into the simulation program, to determine the "ultimate" fighter 
 
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The questions, where can I watch these episodes?
+ Show Spoiler +So far I know that Apache beat the gladiator and that the knight lost to the pirate.
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On May 05 2009 05:04 ilistis wrote:
The questions, where can I watch these episodes?
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+ Show Spoiler +Vikings were more barbaric and less disciplined than samurai no?
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On May 05 2009 05:11 ilistis wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Vikings were more barbaric and less disciplined than samurai no?
+ Show Spoiler + Basically, they were really barbaric. I am a norseman myself, and I love the vikings, but quite frankly im not surprised they lost. The Samurai are MUCH more disciplined in combat then the vikings. The vikings best weapon was causing fear, by charing in screaming and slamming their shields. Some of the Vikings also called "Berserkers" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berserker Basically they would get them self into a stage of rage and frenzy, and then just go wild. The Vikings fought mostly peasants on their raids, and not that much organized resistance, since they came, they plundered and they left, allthough there were Viking settlements all over England and Ireland, so they did settle, and they did well in "normal" combat as well.
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Will check it out, sounds promising.
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Spoilers of who won:
+ Show Spoiler + Spartan > Ninja
Pirate > Knight
Samurai > Viking
Apache Warrior > Gladiator
If the next episodes will be those that the OP said I will be anticipating them :p
And BTW, they should do a 3rd season with the most famous fights on the net EVAR : Knight vs Samurai and Pirate vs Ninja.
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Those saying samurai were "more disciplined" than vikings...where are you getting this information?
You do realize that there was no formal standardized training for samurai in any sense similar to that of, for example, the professional roman army.
Yeah it seems as though they are picking categories where there would have been a high degree of variation from individual to individual and from period to period. Presumably they want as much room as possible to fill the show with BS to please the lowest common denominator.
This show may be a lot of fun, but I really hope no one who enjoys it allows him/herself to be convinced that any conclusions drawn on the show are valid to ANY extent. If you want low quality entertainment this show is perfect - if you want to learn about military history go to a library. At least then you can make educated conjecture about who would beat whom.
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+ Show Spoiler +So what if Samurai can beat a Viking once?
Big deal
He´ll just be reborn or gets to Valhalla and pwns everyone when Ragnarök comes :/
E. added tags
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My norse mythology may be rusty, but aren't they destined to lose in the ragnarok?
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Well you have to realize that during that time, Samurai's sword was incredibly advanced, sharp, lightweight and great for techniques. Not to mention that Samurai probably had the highest level of swordsmanship (i.e. sword skill) the world has seen. The only way Viking would have been able to beat a Samurai is if Samurai lost his sword, or if Viking's axe clashed with Samurai's sword and broke it. (But advanced sword skilled Samurai would not simply clash their sword with a heavy axe anyway)
Samurai also wore light weight armor so they can move around faster. Vikings were slowed down by their armor and their heavy axes. By the time Viking swung an axe, the Samurai would have already 1) moved out of the way 2) changed directions 3) sword almost about to slice the Viking for counter
But some of these fights are stupid
For example, who cares about Mafia vs Yakuza?
And the only way I see a pirate beating a knight is because they have a gun.
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Where are the zealots yo?
This is probably some uninformed BS but it still looks like fun to watch judging by the titles. ^^
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I really enjoyed the first 4 episodes of this show.
but now it's starting to get retarded. yakuza vs mafia? wtf?
if this is where the show is going then "fighter pilot" must be the deadliest warrior
or "guy with nukes"
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On May 05 2009 06:01 AzureEye wrote:
Well you have to realize that during that time, Samurai's sword was incredibly advanced, sharp, lightweight and great for techniques. Not to mention that Samurai probably had the highest level of swordsmanship (i.e. sword skill) the world has seen. The only way Viking would have been able to beat a Samurai is if Samurai lost his sword, or if Viking's axe clashed with Samurai's sword and broke it. (But advanced sword skilled Samurai would not simply clash their sword with a heavy axe anyway)
Wait...so what time period exactly? You should look that up. Also...greatest sword skill? Where is this coming from? That is pop culture nonsense. I'm sure there have been plenty of fantastic swordsmen from Japan, but there is precious little to suggest that they were any better than the elite of other countries.
You should do some serious academic research and then decide if the conclusions you're drawing are in any way remotely valid.
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Berserkers vs Samuria. GOGOGOGo
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On May 05 2009 05:49 Freyr wrote:
Those saying samurai were "more disciplined" than vikings...where are you getting this information?
You do realize that there was no formal standardized training for samurai in any sense similar to that of, for example, the professional roman army.
Yeah it seems as though they are picking categories where there would have been a high degree of variation from individual to individual and from period to period. Presumably they want as much room as possible to fill the show with BS to please the lowest common denominator.
This show may be a lot of fun, but I really hope no one who enjoys it allows him/herself to be convinced that any conclusions drawn on the show are valid to ANY extent. If you want low quality entertainment this show is perfect - if you want to learn about military history go to a library. At least then you can make educated conjecture about who would beat whom.
They had different way of fighting, allthough they have some similarities. Both the Samurai and the Vikings thought that dying is combat was great. For Vikings, dying in combat, meant that you got to enter "valhalla" basically the Vikings "Heaven"
One of the great Norwegian kings, actually ordered his own men, to stab him to death, when he was about to dye from age, ensuring that he wouldnt end up in "hel", the norse equievelent of Hell.
The vikings way of fighting, aimed greatly on causing fear, and I doubt that would work too well on a skilled Samurai. Samurais were as mentioned, faster and more drilled in swordfighting then the vikings. Ofcource the conclusions arent "valid", but its a thought experiment, you gotta take it for what it is. Its like getting pissed off after watching the Matrix, claiming that what happened there was simply impossible.
Important factor is also that the percentages arent that bigfavored towards one side in any of the current matchups, so for instance in the Viking vs Samurai question in this program, out of a 1000 fights, samurais would win 522, basically being around 52.2% Ofcource this could go either way.
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On May 05 2009 05:54 Freyr wrote:
My norse mythology may be rusty, but aren't they destined to lose in the ragnarok?
They wont lose, but most of them will die. "Liv" and "Livtrase" survives, and will be the start of a new and better world.
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These episodes are available at Spike.com, the website of SpikeTV, the show's producer. There are around five 15-30 second commercials breaks.
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I just watched a few trailers but this actually looks like fun... can't believe it^^ The concept seems so lame.
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