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Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-24 21:37:22
February 24 2009 21:30 GMT
#1
I know, terrible pun. Anyways, I remember a day when everyone hated iloveOOv. He was called a cookie-cutter terran who beat everyone with almost the exact same, boring builds. He was also an arrogant douche who lacked sportsmanship. Nowadays, everyone seems to love "GORRILLA TERRAN!" and "CHEATER TERRAN!" He really hasn't changed his playing style much. Why the change of heart?

*
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
February 24 2009 21:32 GMT
#2
We got used to the playing style?

I wasn't around during iloveoov's debut so I don't personally understand the hate :\
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
February 24 2009 21:32 GMT
#3
he's been around for a while

people naturally like old-timers more than nobodies like Notice. When notice wins 3 starleagues and 2 years pass, people will be swarming him all the time too.
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
February 24 2009 21:40 GMT
#4
On February 25 2009 06:30 Try wrote:
He was also an arrogant douche who lacked sportsmanship.


idra next bonjwa
BW forever || Thall
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
February 24 2009 21:53 GMT
#5
On February 25 2009 06:40 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2009 06:30 Try wrote:
He was also an arrogant douche who lacked sportsmanship.


idra next bonjwa



lol


Oov's genius was so far ahead of its time, it took us years just to understand that when he seemed soooo boring, he was actually 50 steps ahead of everyone else, at least in mentality
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
February 24 2009 21:54 GMT
#6
Proof of my claims:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81288


^ a must read for anyone calling himself a starcraft fan!
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 24 2009 21:57 GMT
#7
"boring?" watch some fps instead.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Try
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1293 Posts
February 24 2009 21:59 GMT
#8
On February 25 2009 06:57 oneofthem wrote:
"boring?" watch some fps instead.

Read my fucking post. I said that people used to think he was boring, never said I thought he was boring.
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5523 Posts
February 24 2009 22:03 GMT
#9
fps is godawful to watch
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
February 24 2009 22:04 GMT
#10
Try try chilling a bit, eh?
Midnight)Sun
Profile Joined January 2003
United States256 Posts
February 24 2009 22:06 GMT
#11
On February 25 2009 06:53 minus_human wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2009 06:40 Rostam wrote:
On February 25 2009 06:30 Try wrote:
He was also an arrogant douche who lacked sportsmanship.


idra next bonjwa



lol


Oov's genius was so far ahead of its time, it took us years just to understand that when he seemed soooo boring, he was actually 50 steps ahead of everyone else, at least in mentality


Agreed. Oov set the standard for the macro oriented style we see today. It always takes a few years to truly realize and appreciate someone's influence on the game.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25990 Posts
February 24 2009 22:07 GMT
#12
On February 25 2009 06:57 oneofthem wrote:
"boring?" watch some fps instead.

Boring? Try this completely unrelated thing!
Ugly? Try my 105 year old grandmother!
Hard? Try deriving mathematical proofs in variable degrees of algebraic space!

Srsly -_-
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minus_human
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
4784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-24 22:09:56
February 24 2009 22:08 GMT
#13
On February 25 2009 07:06 Midnight)Sun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2009 06:53 minus_human wrote:
On February 25 2009 06:40 Rostam wrote:
On February 25 2009 06:30 Try wrote:
He was also an arrogant douche who lacked sportsmanship.


idra next bonjwa



lol


Oov's genius was so far ahead of its time, it took us years just to understand that when he seemed soooo boring, he was actually 50 steps ahead of everyone else, at least in mentality


Agreed. Oov set the standard for the macro oriented style we see today. It always takes a few years to truly realize and appreciate someone's influence on the game.



I think the macro style of today would have happened regardless of oov (although it would have been slower to develop). Oovs innovative spirit saw what a future, incredibly efficient way to play game would be like way before everyone else
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
February 24 2009 22:10 GMT
#14
On February 25 2009 06:59 Try wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2009 06:57 oneofthem wrote:
"boring?" watch some fps instead.

Read my fucking post. I said that people used to think he was boring, never said I thought he was boring.

the reply was only to the boring comment, not necessarily to you. if you didn't say it then it does not apply to you.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7928 Posts
February 24 2009 22:13 GMT
#15
On February 25 2009 06:40 Rostam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2009 06:30 Try wrote:
He was also an arrogant douche who lacked sportsmanship.


idra next bonjwa

rofl
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
February 24 2009 22:13 GMT
#16
Simple: people like underdogs.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-24 22:16:13
February 24 2009 22:13 GMT
#17
On February 25 2009 07:07 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2009 06:57 oneofthem wrote:
"boring?" watch some fps instead.

Boring? Try this completely unrelated thing!
Ugly? Try my 105 year old grandmother!
Hard? Try deriving mathematical proofs in variable degrees of algebraic space!

Srsly -_-

really cute, though i should have said something like micro tourney join fast!!11 but then again, oov was not that bad at micro when he was defending cheeses. so it is kind of unfair.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-24 22:34:40
February 24 2009 22:30 GMT
#18
On February 25 2009 07:13 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2009 07:07 Chill wrote:
On February 25 2009 06:57 oneofthem wrote:
"boring?" watch some fps instead.

Boring? Try this completely unrelated thing!
Ugly? Try my 105 year old grandmother!
Hard? Try deriving mathematical proofs in variable degrees of algebraic space!

Srsly -_-

really cute, though i should have said something like micro tourney join fast!!11 but then again, oov was not that bad at micro when he was defending cheeses. so it is kind of unfair.

or you could've said nothing and not look like an idiot~
likewise with your latest blog that you promised to update 2 years ago =/
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
February 24 2009 22:54 GMT
#19
Simple: people love that big monkey smile he has
why so 진지해?
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
February 24 2009 23:04 GMT
#20
I didn't like iloveoov, and I still kinda don't :\
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