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Graffiti? How do you see it? - Page 4

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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
December 22 2008 20:22 GMT
#61
None of you guys understand what graffiti is and never will until you actually put yourself into the "scene" of it.
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
December 22 2008 20:24 GMT
#62
I think if there's a work of graffiti that is making some complex social/political statement then I approve, but all the graffiti I ever see is just assholes writing their name, or 'tag' (which is just their pseudo name because they're cowards who still want credit..) is complete crap.

I don't believe graffiti in and of itself is any complex social statement either, in case you wondered. It's not done because you're 'sticking it to the man' by defacing public property with your name, it's writing your name somewhere so you can brag and gain social acceptance from other jerk offs.
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mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-22 20:46:52
December 22 2008 20:43 GMT
#63
im gonna express my foot up your ass

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the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
PePe QuiCoSE
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Argentina1204 Posts
December 22 2008 23:08 GMT
#64
On December 23 2008 05:22 ShoCkeyy wrote:
None of you guys understand what graffiti is and never will until you actually put yourself into the "scene" of it.

It feels a lot better to believe that instead of just accepting that people think different from you and think you are wrong, isn't it?
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
December 23 2008 08:37 GMT
#65
I was pretty deep into writing from like 98-02. They passed a bunch of unrelated laws that totally fucked over writers and I needed to do better things with my time anyways, so I quit. I still paint every once in a while.

I just recently uploaded a shitload of pics to my myspace page

Myspace.com/spore2006

..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-23 08:49:43
December 23 2008 08:42 GMT
#66
On December 23 2008 02:28 KizZBG wrote:
I don't mind graffiti, as long as they are in similar quality to these:

..removed pics...

you think people can just come out and throw down some crazy shit like that? They have to learn somehow/somewhere. You can't say you like 'good' graffiti and then say you hate 'tagger' graffiti. Everyone of those pieces' artists started as a tagger. Its either you like it or you don't. You gotta take the good with the bad or nothing at all.




PS- Anyone who says they do anything just to 'express themselves' is either gay, stupid, or lying. I never said; "Hey, i feel like expressing myself through vandalism.". I did it for the rush and for the props from other writers like me. I could care less if any random person likes/dislikes it anyways, its not for them its for me and other writers (just like Skeme said in that famous docu).

PS- Shockey, why the fuck would you come on a 'nerd' forum and expect people to not argue at you? Are you a huge toy? Are those really even your friends in the video?
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
December 23 2008 09:04 GMT
#67
The main problem with everyone that supports illegal graffiti is that all they're focusing on is themselves. I don't need to give a shit about you wanting to "express yourself" when apparently you don't a shit about other people's property and the fact that they don't want to deal with vandalism.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
December 23 2008 11:25 GMT
#68
vandalism of public property is vandalism of public property.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
December 23 2008 11:25 GMT
#69
if you want to do 'art' go buy a canvas or some paper.
alphafuzard
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1610 Posts
December 23 2008 21:11 GMT
#70
I personally don't like graffiti that much. The vast vast majority is hardly art, more like kids playing around with spray paint. Painting it somewhere where it would have to be removed is just stupid, on multiple levels. First of all, it costs money, which does not come from the culprit, but from the taxpayers. Second of all, the art itself gets no recognition, because it is going to be taken down. The only recognition will be about how "daring" the artist is, not what he leaves behind.

Graffiti artists need to clean up their act to receive positive attention. Why not create works that will last, and try to show them off legitimately? Get talented artists together, get sponsors, sell the paintings, and hold art shows. Painting great art underneath bridges and on street signs won't earn anything. The image is still that of hoodlums and vandals, because of people like the street sign painter.
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fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
December 23 2008 21:20 GMT
#71
Most public art doesn't look that good. Graffiti is one of the lowest forms of public art, so for it to look good you really have a very small subset of it.

It looks kind of cool when its on trains and abandon buildings sometimes though.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
December 23 2008 22:19 GMT
#72
On December 23 2008 17:42 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2008 02:28 KizZBG wrote:
I don't mind graffiti, as long as they are in similar quality to these:

..removed pics...


PS- Shockey, why the fuck would you come on a 'nerd' forum and expect people to not argue at you? Are you a huge toy? Are those really even your friends in the video?


Actually I just came on to see what people thought, lol. I knew there was going to be people arguing with me, and like I said, they wouldn't understand about the graffiti scene. Also, Yes they're my friends. Going to an art school, you meet a lot of taggers, bombers, what ever you want. I myself don't have a camera (Well I do on my phone but it doesn't have internet atm to send my pictures) so I can't upload photos.

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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-23 22:29:24
December 23 2008 22:26 GMT
#73
On December 24 2008 07:19 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2008 17:42 CharlieMurphy wrote:
On December 23 2008 02:28 KizZBG wrote:
I don't mind graffiti, as long as they are in similar quality to these:

..removed pics...


PS- Shockey, why the fuck would you come on a 'nerd' forum and expect people to not argue at you? Are you a huge toy? Are those really even your friends in the video?


Actually I just came on to see what people thought, lol. I knew there was going to be people arguing with me, and like I said, they wouldn't understand about the graffiti scene. Also, Yes they're my friends. Going to an art school, you meet a lot of taggers, bombers, what ever you want. I myself don't have a camera (Well I do on my phone but it doesn't have internet atm to send my pictures) so I can't upload photos.


you could text message them to your email.
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
December 24 2008 01:05 GMT
#74
O.o no internet on the phone I can't text it
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CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
December 24 2008 01:20 GMT
#75
u dont need internet on ur phone just send a text message to ur online email. takes 2 seconds
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
December 24 2008 01:40 GMT
#76
Yea I do, I've tried. It never comes in... Blahhhh, I'm getting internet on my phone soon anyway so I'll be able to take pictures :O
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
December 24 2008 01:52 GMT
#77
On December 23 2008 05:22 ShoCkeyy wrote:
None of you guys understand what graffiti is and never will until you actually put yourself into the "scene" of it.


lol so you open with "hey guys, what do you think?" and then after facing criticism you use the "you guys will never understand" schpeel.


Classic LOL
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
December 24 2008 01:52 GMT
#78
it's you that needs to understand why the vast majority of the population does not see grafitti favorably.
XDawn
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
Canada4040 Posts
December 24 2008 02:02 GMT
#79
On December 24 2008 10:20 CharlieMurphy wrote:
u dont need internet on ur phone just send a text message to ur online email. takes 2 seconds


and lots of money LOL
Use it or lose it
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
December 24 2008 05:27 GMT
#80
On December 24 2008 10:52 thedeadhaji wrote:
it's you that needs to understand why the vast majority of the population does not see grafitti favorably.


AND I was trying to show you guys the way we see it, but everyone is pretty stubborn.
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