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CrimsonLotus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Colombia1123 Posts
November 19 2008 19:12 GMT
#21
Cannons inside his base.

It makes you worst than Hitler but is so easy to pull off against D players.
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
November 19 2008 19:16 GMT
#22
On November 20 2008 00:21 anderoo wrote:
I wonder what it's like when a terran is 2 raxing mid map and a toss is 99 gating mid map
that's gotta be an awkward confrontation


something like that happened once, except it was center 9/9 gate vs center 9/9 gate on coliseum

I think it was much vs bisu
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klizzer
Profile Joined March 2008
517 Posts
November 19 2008 19:46 GMT
#23
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=82518

Try it out like last time. With a touchpad.

Yes, and seriously, the first thing on iccup I always do is to check for proxy gates/raxx or 5-7 pool.
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
November 19 2008 21:07 GMT
#24
On November 19 2008 20:47 intrigue wrote:
the first thing iccup teaches a new ladder player is cheese defense. successfully cheesing a player that is at the same level as you gets more and more difficult.

Strange, because the only time in 200+ iccup games I have been cheesed was a 5pool. Ive never had a terran or a toss cheese me. (I play toss)
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7465 Posts
November 19 2008 21:29 GMT
#25
On November 20 2008 06:07 Mastermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2008 20:47 intrigue wrote:
the first thing iccup teaches a new ladder player is cheese defense. successfully cheesing a player that is at the same level as you gets more and more difficult.

Strange, because the only time in 200+ iccup games I have been cheesed was a 5pool. Ive never had a terran or a toss cheese me. (I play toss)



You sir walk with angels on your shoulders, or lag extremely bad .

I think I've had about 1/6 games cheese on iccup in the last year. So I would say out of 3k games, 450-500 of cheese seems about right. More cheese at D/D+ and C+/B- en at C-/C imo.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24740 Posts
November 19 2008 21:59 GMT
#26
On November 20 2008 00:17 Chill wrote:
k youre bad you dont need to blog about it.

I thought the same thing based on that (brief) OP...

Except I'd say you stink at cheesing lol.
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liger13
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1060 Posts
November 19 2008 22:10 GMT
#27
On November 19 2008 19:19 SpiralArchitect wrote:
First off try being Terran. I find that proxy rax into a bunker rush is much easier to pull off than a proxy gateway sort of deal.

lol, u can easily cheese to D+ when your a terran if not farther...
I feel like pwning noobs
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
November 19 2008 22:18 GMT
#28
On November 20 2008 06:07 Mastermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2008 20:47 intrigue wrote:
the first thing iccup teaches a new ladder player is cheese defense. successfully cheesing a player that is at the same level as you gets more and more difficult.

Strange, because the only time in 200+ iccup games I have been cheesed was a 5pool. Ive never had a terran or a toss cheese me. (I play toss)

Are you sure you play the same iccup as everyone else? Or is it that you cheesed every time during those 199 games before encountering someone who actually cheesed before you even got the chance (that person in turn was on his 199th game of cheese)? Circle of evil. . .
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 19 2008 22:20 GMT
#29
The easiest cheese to pull off is probably the 5 pool. Try it- no hotkeys needed maybe >.>
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
November 20 2008 00:28 GMT
#30
On November 20 2008 00:17 Chill wrote:
k youre bad you dont need to blog about it.


lol chill you're so mean
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
November 20 2008 00:43 GMT
#31
In my last 50 or so iccup games I've only been cheesed a few times. There's much more all-in builds, but I don't count them as cheeses.

I am slightly picky when choosing opponents though. If I say hi in the pre-game chat and they don't say anything back (even gl hf gogo is fine) I kick them.
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