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Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-09 01:24:23
November 09 2008 01:23 GMT
#21
I think most "stupid" people aren't so much stupid as they are average and lacking the time, opportunity, and training it takes to become "smart." Their having children won't damage the intelligence of the world. But it will increase demand for limited resources.
gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
November 09 2008 01:45 GMT
#22
it's not people that are stupid. it's society that is stupid. when you change society, you change people.
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-09 01:53:17
November 09 2008 01:49 GMT
#23
I read a study recently which concluded that the average brain size had decreased ca 10 % (don't quote me on this number) the last 1000 years.
So yeah, it does.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
daz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada643 Posts
November 09 2008 02:05 GMT
#24
On November 09 2008 10:49 KlaCkoN wrote:
I read a study recently which concluded that the average brain size had decreased ca 10 % (don't quote me on this number) the last 1000 years.
So yeah, it does.


yeah because you know people were really smart 1000 years ago in the DARK AGES
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-09 02:15:08
November 09 2008 02:09 GMT
#25
On November 09 2008 09:48 Chef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2008 09:28 Nytefish wrote:
On November 09 2008 09:19 Chef wrote:
There's average intelligence people, which I'd say make up 95% or so of the population. Their votes are determined by what they see in the media and what their friends tell them. The remaining 5% are either excessively dumb, and need no consideration, or extremely smart, and will hopefully guide the masses of average intelligence people. I'd say the OP of this thread is either average, or excessively dumb.


That's a very odd definition of average. Also it's absurd to say people are either average, really dumb, or really smart. There's no sensible way to describe a sudden gap between "normal person" and "smart person", you get everything in between. Although, since we're on the topic of baseless assumptions, relatively speaking I'd say you're acting excessively dumb.

Most people I meet everyday have about the same capacity for achievement. Once in awhile I'll meet someone really mindbogglingly smart that obviously just has the genetics to be better than everyone else. Likewise, once in awhile I'll walk past the special education classes.


This is like a newbie calling anyone higher than C rank "pro". They can't tell the difference between a pro-gamer and C rank player because they are so much worse than both of them. Basically, you haven't met enough "smart" people.

No I'm never serious.
sigma_x
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia285 Posts
November 09 2008 02:15 GMT
#26
On November 09 2008 08:49 t_co wrote:
And, hostility to abortion and same-sex marriage is also correlated with having more children. Hence these issues may become resolved two or three generations down the road.


This is so ridiculous that it needs only to be stated, to be refuted.
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
November 09 2008 02:20 GMT
#27
On November 09 2008 09:10 soudo wrote:
Question: Did the OP just finish watching Idiocracy when he posted this? If so, he totally didn't get the message at all.

Second, being democrat, republican, or how smart you are has nothing to do with how many kids you have. It's about how much wealth you have. The more wealth you have, the higher the opportunity cost it is to raise a child.

Example: Say some woman makes $1000 a month. She then goes on maternity leave and can't work for 9 of months. She loses $9000.
Now take a housewife. While the housewife is pregnant, she loses $0 since she brings in no income. The cost of raising a child for the housewife is a lot less than the other one. Both have to deal with the cost of providing for the child, but the working woman also has to deal with losses in wages.

Side note, don't you think you should check for your grammar when you're posting about how stupid other people are?

Lol? Making babies aint about wealth man. In fact fucking is one of the few things that everyone can do no matter how poor or how rich you are. There are increased amount of children amongst the lower class for quite a few reasons but the obvious ones are 1) Theres more poor people than rich people 2) People like to have sex 3) Lower class people are less educated or dont care about contraception.

Plenty of destitute crack whores give birth every day man.
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KaasZerg
Profile Joined November 2005
Netherlands927 Posts
November 09 2008 02:32 GMT
#28
Oh no they are stupid all right. In the Netherlands everybody gets educated to death. About 16% score 85 or lower on IQ. If I remember correctly 80 is borderline retarded and 15 is the standard deviation. My hometown has a higher procentage of fucktards than avarage though. There is a polytech university wich attracts students from outside the townto balance it out. I must admit I have a pessimistic take on avarage intelligence.

You will be amazed how many women of 80 IQ or lower get pregnant and choose to keep the baby. They don't know anything else to do with their live. Yeah later Social workers, adoption or other drama.
Hypnosis
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States2061 Posts
November 09 2008 02:36 GMT
#29
On November 09 2008 09:10 soudo wrote:
Question: Did the OP just finish watching Idiocracy when he posted this? If so, he totally didn't get the message at all.

Second, being democrat, republican, or how smart you are has nothing to do with how many kids you have. It's about how much wealth you have. The more wealth you have, the higher the opportunity cost it is to raise a child.

Example: Say some woman makes $1000 a month. She then goes on maternity leave and can't work for 9 of months. She loses $9000.
Now take a housewife. While the housewife is pregnant, she loses $0 since she brings in no income. The cost of raising a child for the housewife is a lot less than the other one. Both have to deal with the cost of providing for the child, but the working woman also has to deal with losses in wages.

Side note, don't you think you should check for your grammar when you're posting about how stupid other people are?



people ahve children regardless of how much money they have, its totally unrelated. This is why people are stupid they dont think.. So you think that a rich house wife will have like 9 kids because she doesnt lose money on it? lol
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cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
November 09 2008 02:43 GMT
#30
On November 09 2008 08:50 XCetron wrote:
No, since you're implying all kids that are raised in a republican family will become republican, and same thing with democraft.

Have you factored in Immigration? Most immigrants to US tend to be democrats.


I disagree. A lot of Latino families are "value voters" because of the whole Catholicism thing.
SiegeTanksandBlueGoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
China685 Posts
November 09 2008 03:35 GMT
#31
This can be easily solved by one way.

SMART PEOPLE HAVE MOAR KIDS NOW.

Seriously though, this is just a eugenics argument. There's a lot of good arguments on both sides.

Personally, I'm all for smart people reproducing. Honestly though, you really have to convince smart people to have a lot more kids. Also, you need to define smart. Technically, we can eventually raise the bar of smartness until the OP or anyone on TL.net is not smart enough to reproduce.

I don't think the OP would like that.
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Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
November 09 2008 04:53 GMT
#32
IQ scale is always going to have an average of 100. The relative intelligence of somone who scores 100 in a test is going to go down however.

What is important to note however, is there is always going to be more jobs out there for cleaners, gas station attendants, ppl working on checkout etc. than there will be lawyers, doctors, engineers etc.

So it all evens out to a strong workforce. Imagine if it was the other way around, you would have really intelligent people being forced to work as a shop assistant when they could be doing soo much more.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
November 09 2008 05:02 GMT
#33
Dumb people don't necessarily breed dumb people, however...though that's certainly the trend.

In all honesty, I think it's most comforting to just not think about all this stuff...be apathetic and just play starcraft... -____-

Whenever I do sit down and think about this shit, I end up getting depressed and unmotivated from the overwhelming feeling of futility it brings on. ugh.

On November 09 2008 09:10 soudo wrote:
Question: Did the OP just finish watching Idiocracy when he posted this? If so, he totally didn't get the message at all.

Second, being democrat, republican, or how smart you are has nothing to do with how many kids you have. It's about how much wealth you have. The more wealth you have, the higher the opportunity cost it is to raise a child.

Example: Say some woman makes $1000 a month. She then goes on maternity leave and can't work for 9 of months. She loses $9000.
Now take a housewife. While the housewife is pregnant, she loses $0 since she brings in no income. The cost of raising a child for the housewife is a lot less than the other one. Both have to deal with the cost of providing for the child, but the working woman also has to deal with losses in wages.

Side note, don't you think you should check for your grammar when you're posting about how stupid other people are?

That's hardly the long and short of it...you also have to take into account culture, population density of the area, cost of living in the area, and whatever else.

If anything, it's been shown that wealthier people produce LESS children than their opposites. That's what the OP of this blog is bringing up.
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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
November 09 2008 05:09 GMT
#34
...except by saying that the higher the opportunity cost it is to raise a child soudo is suggesting that as a reason which wealthy people are less likely to raise kids?

What's with all the people somehow taking soudo's comment as "Wealthy people will have lots of kids" when he is noting the higher relative cost for them to breed.
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
November 09 2008 05:28 GMT
#35
Survival of the fittest, man.

In this case dumb people are more fit to survive than them smart folks, which is pretty funny.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
November 09 2008 05:31 GMT
#36
How do they measure how smart they are? Democrats tend to be smarter??
We also need to see who the sample was, and what location and bla bla bla, statistics stuff, make sure its not bias.
Hippopotamus
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1914 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-09 06:10:09
November 09 2008 06:02 GMT
#37
IQ is standardized so that 100 is always the average. Also, regression toward the mean destroys any argument you may have had. Since IQ isn't entirely genetically determined, IQ scores tend to regress toward the mean. Parents with IQs below the mean tend to have children who are smarter and parents with IQs above the mean tend to have children who are dumber. Ironically, the reverse of your thesis is just as true: the more 'dumb' people breed, the higher the average IQ (at least on the very short term).
shuriken93
Profile Joined September 2008
United States13 Posts
November 09 2008 06:28 GMT
#38
On November 09 2008 08:50 XCetron wrote:
No, since you're implying all kids that are raised in a republican family will become republican, and same thing with democraft.

Have you factored in Immigration? Most immigrants to US tend to be democrats.


Family is the biggest influence on your political beliefs imo >.>
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-09 06:34:19
November 09 2008 06:29 GMT
#39
On November 09 2008 08:50 XCetron wrote:
No, since you're implying all kids that are raised in a republican family will become republican, and same thing with democraft.

Have you factored in Immigration? Most immigrants to US tend to be democrats.


The OP's main point was about stupidity, not political party, and if people that are genetically (not just learnedly) stupid breed and make more genetically stupid people, we will get an overall lower IQ.
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shuriken93
Profile Joined September 2008
United States13 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-09 06:54:11
November 09 2008 06:45 GMT
#40
On November 09 2008 13:53 Fen wrote:
IQ scale is always going to have an average of 100. The relative intelligence of somone who scores 100 in a test is going to go down however.

What is important to note however, is there is always going to be more jobs out there for cleaners, gas station attendants, ppl working on checkout etc. than there will be lawyers, doctors, engineers etc.

So it all evens out to a strong workforce. Imagine if it was the other way around, you would have really intelligent people being forced to work as a shop assistant when they could be doing soo much more.


If everyone was smart we wouldn't need people to do simple jobs because they would make a bunch of robots to do everything for us!!! ;D
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