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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-08 00:55:33
October 08 2008 00:53 GMT
#21
A distinction needs to be made between BRAZILIAN Jiu Jitsu and regular Japanese Jiu Jitsu. BJJ is generally gonna be of higher quality.

Also you need to tell us what your goal is - if it's fitness all of them are probably fine. If you want self-defence, judo, jiu jitsu, kickboxing (preferably muay thai) and DEFINITELY not kendo or tae kwon do (there might be exceptions, but they are rare).

If you don't like grappling then DEFINITELY don't do judo or jiu jitsu, that's ALL grappling.

Further you really need to find out exactly what type of karate it is.. Is it kyokushin or daido juku? Then hell yeah, great for self-defence. If it's point-karate with no contact sparring then....... yeah, no. Not good.

If you want to look good doing highkicks then tae kwon do is probably for you, just don't expect any of it to actually work in a fight.
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REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
October 08 2008 02:56 GMT
#22
I like kendo the most out of the ones you listed. A classmate of mine practices kendo and we did some sparring with cola bottles sometime and fuck he's fast as lightning :O
karate is second best imo, if your not interested in kung fu.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
October 08 2008 02:58 GMT
#23
Muay Thai gogogo.
Too bad it's not in your list :-(
In that case take karate or kendo.
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
October 08 2008 02:58 GMT
#24
Allow me to clarify what I meant as well. I of course read where you said you don't like grappling, but I suggest you learn to like it. Grappling is in my opinion the most important aspect of a well rounded fighter; which I know you didn't say you were aspiring to be, but I suggest you at least give it a try.

I know a friend of mine who has been training BJJ (FA is right, much better quality) for quite awhile now and he it suits his build perfectly. He has a light frame and low body fat, but hes very flexible, hes almost akin to BJ Penn if you follow MMA, i've seen his sparring matches and he can pull things off that are incredible. Although I must say he acts like he is the shit now, which can be annoying.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 08 2008 03:21 GMT
#25
I used to do taekwondo and I went up to second degree black belt. It's pretty useless in the practical aspect. I stopped taking martial arts altogether after picking up music, so I don't really know what type of martial arts might be good, but just don't take taekwondo. It's a waste of time.
Freyr
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States500 Posts
October 08 2008 03:30 GMT
#26
On October 08 2008 09:53 FrozenArbiter wrote:
A distinction needs to be made between BRAZILIAN Jiu Jitsu and regular Japanese Jiu Jitsu. BJJ is generally gonna be of higher quality.


This is important. "Jiu-jitsu" is not synonymous with BJJ - failing to qualify this just spreads ignorance and confusion. The term "Jiu-jitsu" means nothing on its own, and often refers to modern systems which are random amalgamations of other arts created by people who are frequently not even japanese.


Nytefish - what are you looking to get out of training in martial arts?

If you are looking for something that has self defense application I would recommend Judo. You may not like grappling, but if you get nothing else out of Judo you'll be excellent at staying on your feet, which is very important in self defense situations where the primary goal is to get away as fast as possible. Furthermore, you'll learn to throw/take people down, and in a good school you'll learn to be fairly good on the ground.

BJJ would also be an excellent choice though a lot of schools tend to focus very heavily on groundwork at the expense of learning to take people down/avoid being taken down. If you have the time/incentive to crosstrain BJJ with something like Judo or wrestling then that would be ideal, but for the average consumer I think the lack of standing work may limit the value of the carryover.

However you can certainly find BJJ schools which also train their throws/takedowns to a high level. It should also be noted that as a Judoka I am biased.

Either way, the nice thing about Judo/BJJ is that unlike something like muay thai or full contact kickboxing, you can train a lot at a high intensity without lots of brain damage which is usually seen as a good thing.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
October 08 2008 03:35 GMT
#27
It's just that no one uses original jiu jitsu anymore, so it's implied which one we're talking about
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Freyr
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States500 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-08 03:49:43
October 08 2008 03:49 GMT
#28
It's only implied when talking with people who understand the difference. Otherwise it's just spreading ignorance.

Also, Koryu Bujutsu (in which Jujutsu first evolved) is still around in Japan, and at the very least is culturally very interesting. There are also lots of other systems that use the term, most of which are, however, probably terrible in most respects.

I understand what you mean - I use the term when talking with friends who train in BJJ or MMA, but the distinction should definitely be noted for those who don't know, if for no other reason than that ignorance is just plain bad.

Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
October 08 2008 04:00 GMT
#29
The only two martials arts I can speak up for are TKD and kendo. These two aren't exactly very practical and it's mostly just about staying active and whatnot. TKD helped me quite a bit on flexibility and really synced well with plyometric work. Kendo just seems to work out your forearm and shoulders like crazy, although I haven't done it as extensively as TKD so I can't say for sure. If you want to look for practicality, like stuff you'd use in street situations, you should avoid doing these two.

Although it would be pretty badass to see someone take down a mugger with a flying 720 tornado kick...
this is my quote.
pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
October 08 2008 04:00 GMT
#30
Im gonna be a mma whore and say Muay Thai/Kickboxing, or even boxing if youre not going to do grappling (if you change your mind, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is considered the most useful as of now). But for the love of God, dont do TKD. I would place that the lowest out of all the arts you listed.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-08 04:09:22
October 08 2008 04:08 GMT
#31
The correct answer is Krav Maga.

Or Muay Thai. These two martial arts are by far the most practical.

After that Jiu-Jistu or Judo. But if you can find a Muay Thai class, take it.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 08 2008 04:17 GMT
#32
On October 08 2008 13:00 Ozarugold wrote:
The only two martials arts I can speak up for are TKD and kendo. These two aren't exactly very practical and it's mostly just about staying active and whatnot. TKD helped me quite a bit on flexibility and really synced well with plyometric work. Kendo just seems to work out your forearm and shoulders like crazy, although I haven't done it as extensively as TKD so I can't say for sure. If you want to look for practicality, like stuff you'd use in street situations, you should avoid doing these two.

Although it would be pretty badass to see someone take down a mugger with a flying 720 tornado kick...

It was kinda cool being able to show off some really flashy kicks, I guess. I kinda wish I could still pull them off.
d1v
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Sweden868 Posts
October 08 2008 04:37 GMT
#33
Go for Krav Maga. I do it and it's teh shit. It's practical, highly effective and easy to learn and you get a very good workout as well.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
October 08 2008 04:43 GMT
#34
Eskrima is the shit yo
it led to Ferdinand Magellan's death

its stick fighting
but
you progress from weapon based kata to empty hand based kata instead of the other way around
also it teaches you how to shatter bones with the butt of a sword/gun

krav maga is also good, there's a good reason why it's listed as a "see also" under Gun Kata on wikipedia
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