Share your story on how you found TL and how you got hooked.
I've been a fan of SC since 2004 - when MBC and OGN were my only friends in lonely Cheongju, Korea. As much as I enjoyed watching all of the games, there was one player I really had an interest in: Kang Min. I watched Kang Min play his games, watched all the specials they did on him and never ever even dreamed that I would meet him one day.
October of 2005, I went to Blizzcon and there, to my surprise, was the protoss god himself - and on the final day scurried my way to get a picture with him. I was a happy girl.
After returning to the States in 2006, I did not know how to watch games anymore (since I was void of my Starcraft channels) and became busy with graduate school and wow (No matter what, I just can't get away from Blizzard games).
However, in 2007, I decided to attend Blizzcon again in hopes to meet Min for the second time... and I did. I mustered up the courage I had to go and ask for another picture.. and to have dinner with me that night. He and I chatted and he took down my number to call me later on that evening. Around 6:30, he calls me and asks me to come to his hotel. Although I am at an event, I dubiously exit and go to his hotel lobby. Apparently, he had gotten locked out of his hotel room and needed someone to explain to the front desk. Ha! "You were the first person I thought to call", he says. I help him get his room door open and we talk and I tell him that I want to finish up the event first before heading out. He says that that's fine - and around 8pm we meet up again for dinner of steaks, beers and conversation.
Around 10:30 we head back to the hotel and see that there is a staff party going on at the lobby bar. Rounds of tequila and whiskey and the bar is closing. Min says that he needs the restroom and I sit in the lobby waiting for him. About 20 minutes later, he comes back with Tasteless behind him. "Are you his translator", Nick exclaims as he proceeds to invite Kang Min to a party up in his room. Min looks at me apprehensively and says, "Well, I'm only going if you go - I can't communicate with them!" At this point I call my friend to tell him to just meet me in the morning and that I won't be heading back to his place. I was going to spend the night with Nal_rA!!
I tell Nick that we'll head up and we all go to his room for some more booze. When we got there, there was a bunch of people in the room - people from a community called TeamLiquid.
A community of SC fans... who weren't Korean?! This opened my eyes. I had no idea!
In Tasteless' hotel room, I met mnm who introduced me to these forums and I was done. And the rest is history.
-- So the rest of the story is that we drank and drank and drank. Min made Nick drink a whole glass of soju while the guys taught him how to shotgun a beer. The night could have gone well into the morning but Min had a match to play and so we headed back to his room around 3am. He inevitebly lost his game the next day due to being hung over, but when I asked him about it, he said it was worth the loss to have been able to hang out with TL members all night. <3
My friend kept linking me to threads here when I asked him for advice and tips and eventually I figured I watched this site so closely I may as well make an account and start being part of the community.
Now I can't keep away. These forums are my cocaine, my daily need. In a couple years when I can afford to go out to the TL meetups and go to blizzcon and such I will definitely go. Just you wait TL, just you wait!
i came to korea and saw sc on tv and it made me fall in love with progaming/sc started getting into sites like starcraftgamers.com sclegacy than I found tl and after awhile stopped going on sc/gosugamers and sclegacy.
holy cow, awesome story susie! i want to go to Blizzcon eventually.
Around late 2005, I got into teamliquid from some starcraft-related google search when I was in a craze to get better at SC. I learned about progaming and was extremely interested in it. I was watching a ton of vods, reps, and reading the various strategies in the forum here. I played Protoss because of Nal_ra and Anytime, because their play was just so great.
After I started using teamliquid, I pretty much stopped visiting any other SC sites, because everything I needed sc-related was here.
It was before teamliquid became teamliquid of today, My idol NTT aka Hasudrone was on the peak of his game, countless hours of NTT replays filled my time between classes and sleep. Then came WCG, my hero NTT was murdered by someone I have never heard of at the time. his name was liquid.nazgul. I watched the replays of those three games over and over and over, NTT did all of his usual tricks from massive dropships on cliffs to annoying vulture raids and of course the 100+ supplies of scvs. But nothing seemed to work. Nazgul always in the right place at the right time. NTT was never the same again, In fact, in my mind liquid.nazgul ended my hero NTT's starcraft career. Liquid.Nazgul was my first starcraft villain. I starting to follow this villian in the wcg, because he took NTT's spot, i cheer when boxer demolished him using 1 dropship + 2 tanks to kill 5 dragons and 1 reaver in jungle story. But when the epic boxer vs nazgul replay pack came out I starting to follow nazgul closely, and inevitably I wonder across teamliquid.net.
aaa my story is kind of boring compared to yours :S, i was browsing for some replays and accidently found TL.net, then i just read the forums and stuff because my english is not too good and I didn't want to not be able to communicate, finally i started to post and the rest is history, now im a freaking VULTURE so hurray for me.
I knew about pro-gaming for a really long time, but didn't start watching until SC2 was announced and saw the games for the tourney there (the only players I knew in that tourney were NaDa and Nal_rA; so yes, I did not know who savior or Bisu were at the time) on youtube. Later my friend told me about teamliquid.net. I was thinking "isn't that a counter-strike team?" but realized it was about Starcraft, instead.
Well.. i used to visit broodwar.com (someone buyed the domain and turned it over gosu.com lol), sclegacy, gg.net and randomly tl.. but somehow, somewhere, when i was playing WGT, someone told me about this, and about the tlt, so i was like, whoa.. i dont believe it. i started as a lurker for many years, watching the Stars that are the today staples of TL, reading, waiting, stalking... until one day, i said, well enough of this shit, lets go there.. (even there, it tookd me some days to start posting, lol) then the first panamericans came, i tried to do a hangout, but only got the latin players (testie was there.. and he ditched us.. he probably doesnt remember, i even offered myself to treat him, since iirc someone stole his wallet) anyways.. im always lurking, but somehow managed to know some ppl, and that ppl lead me to more ppl.. and since i always tried to be part of this site, now i can (in a way some of you mayb dont notice but i do) soooo
susie.. great story, im jealous since kang min is one of my favourite players (i did that cheerful) anyways, ill go back to my hole now =D
My story involves a routine visit to Blizzard.com to see if they had announced any new games. I had played a decent amount of starcraft but not a lot of online play. On the front page of blizzard was a link to videos from and event called Blizzard World Wide Invitational featuring these 4 korean guys who looked like they were a big deal. I started watching the VODs which to my surprise were being casted by this blue haired punk with a lip ring - Tasteless. I couldn't believe this new world i had found....that these guys played a game...for a living...How did tasteless know so much about these kids? I never thought i'd end up at a Blizzard event, meet progamers or people who loved progaming as much as i do
In the middle of a match between Ra and Reach on Coulee, Tastless made some comment "i better watch my commentating or im going to get flamed on teamliquid.net". That was it, i popped the url in and the rest is history. I was so intimidated by how much these people knew about starcraft and dared not post lest i be ripped apart by the masses....after a couple weeks i finally got some confidence and decided to ask about Pro Team Scouting Methods.
I was randomly googling starcraft stuff. I found pimpest plays and became interested in progaming. Then I found gosugamers, and then finally teamliquid. I just thought tl.net was a better place and I lurked all the time. I finally decided to make an account one day and I still don't post much haha
Well it started when i was like 10 years old and me and my friend brandon played starcraft 64 and i didnt know about progaming back then, well when searching for strategys for the game i found sclegacy.com and then i read on there news about them hiring players for blizzards sandlot tournament and i visited each website to see which 1 i wanted to win, it was teamliquid.net because of the sweet horse banner ^_^ and ever since then i been using it for progamer news =]
And Kennigit, ROFL, that's how you heard about TL?? I remember hearing Nick say that live and cracked up laughing. And OMFG -> That thread was your first post? HAHAHAHAHAHA, that was SOOO epic I remember that thread, greatest derailment ever... had no idea you created it.
Edit - My story is insanely boring... I'm a product of the battle.net forums since about 1998 playing a little game known as Diablo. I had actually gotten the battlechest (Diablo1, Starcraft, and WC2 at the time) from Walmart and took a look at the games. WC2 didn't interest me in the least, but Diablo and SC did... I played through the single player missions of SC, but that was about it for a while, I was hooked on Diablo and wanted to learn everything I could on it, so I wandered over to the Diablo strategy forum on battle.net and soaked up some knowledge, and really got into the Diablo game. I played Starcraft a little bit, getting BW at some point, but pretty much only comp stomp games and whatnot, I wasn't very competitive at the time. Around 2000, D2 came out and I was addicted for a good 2 solid years of my life.
When I eventually broke the D2 habit, around late 2002ish, I found myself with a bit of a void to fill and found myself looking back at BW. I found my way to the old S&T forums on battle.net again, and heard about TL.net from a few of it's members. I didn't initially think much about, but when I learned there were players, going on tv, and getting paid to play a video game, I was fascinated by the concept.
When I saw my first First Person View footage ever of someone (Elky) controlling his units, I was fucking hooked.
Like anything I become interested in, I have to get as much information on it as possible... back then, VODs were a scarce commodity, and battle reports were the staple of the day; every news update was treasured.
I just visited more and more until it was clear THIS was the place I wanted to be. The only thing I feel a bit bad about is that I've hardly met anyone from TL.net, and I would REALLY like to go to some meet-ups, I just wish more things happened on the east coast.
Played starcraft like a year or two after it came out, no idea that there was a progaming circuit. I was a follower of WC3: TFT progaming. This lasted for about a year, watching VOD's on youtube mostly. Then while wandering around youtube, I came across a BoxeR highlight video, right then and there while watching the video, I went "DAMN... O_O". Found and re-installed SC:BW. Then I started getting hooked on SC VOD's and totally forgot about my WC3 playing/watching days. While watching a random VOD I noticed in the user comments someone mentioning tl.net. Twas around 2006?
Lol i remember when that thread was made, kennigit ^^ I believe I even have a post in there somewhere...
I found TL after some v-tec kids went on a melee spree back when WGT first got started. They were talking about strats and stuff that the 'pros' were using that they read about on TL.
I went to TL to see for myself but was actually turned off by all the information on the proscene. I eventually found GosuGamers and posted there for a while as 'Enord'. I still checked both sites frequently but eventually just stopped going to GG because TL was more active. I didn't start following the proscene until about a year later, hence why I mostly hang around the general forum.
i forgot how i came into tlnet. actually, i think i stumbled upon it back when i was trying to play counterstrike competitively, which didn't work out. i was looking around for gaming sites and found tlnet. that was way back 3-4 years ago. first time i found this site, i was like "bleh just another gaming site with a weirdo banner. horses? wtf." i wasn't really interested in competitive starcraft at the time because i was more interested in cs. but then i wanted to listen to music while i played games, and with my really old emachines desktop, i couldn't do that with cs. so i get bored of cs and get into sc so i can listen to music while i play. then my friend shows me a video of boxer and i research competitive sc and stumble back into this site. i didnt register to become a member until sometime the second half of 2007. then i learn about savior, and i get pissed cuz i missed the whole shabang.
now tell me that isnt fate.
On September 12 2008 15:52 ZaplinG wrote: Lol i remember when that thread was made, kennigit ^^ I believe I even have a post in there somewhere...
I found TL after some v-tec kids went on a melee spree back when WGT first got started. They were talking about strats and stuff that the 'pros' were using that they read about on TL.
I went to TL to see for myself but was actually turned off by all the information on the proscene. I eventually found GosuGamers and posted there for a while as 'Enord'. I still checked both sites frequently but eventually just stopped going to GG because TL was more active. I didn't start following the proscene until about a year later, hence why I mostly hang around the general forum.
edit: 0o0o0o0o ye i remember now. i got interested in poker, and gambling. after my friend told me about boxer and i research competitive sc, i llook around to find games that i can win prizes at, and tried to find a place where i can bet on teams and found gosugamers. they didnt give out prizes, and it free, but i checked it out anyway. i got bored of that and searched google about other game betting sites, particularly sc betting, and i come stumbling back into tlnet.
Hah... the best thing is, I'm sitting here typing this, and I overhear "and Corsairs can communicate with Marines on the ground" and lookup to see some WWII footage on the Military channel.
Lol Kennigit... I didn't remember it was you who started that thread... only to be following by an amazing derailment.
As for my own story...
It was a little more than two years ago. I had just moved into a new apartment with some friends from university. one day, after coming home from work there is this Korean kid in my living room I had never seen before. Finding strange people in my living room in various states of consciousness has become somewhat of a theme while I have lived here.
I asked who he was. He was apparently a friend of one of my roommate's and his name was Brian. We started connecting on video games right away, reminiscing about great games of the past when Starcraft came up, which happened to be my favorite game from the past.
"Oh man, I haven't played Starcraft in years," I told him. "I used to be pretty good back in like... middle school."
It was on. Several of us got on our computers and we played several games. Despite not having played for years, I swept the floor with them. Not that I was good, I merely recalled an old build order I used and their strategy consisted of just making some units they felt like using and then getting overrun by hydralisks before they could really do anything.
They wanted to beat me, so they practiced a lot and looked online for tips and strategies. I didn't practice at all, and every week or so they would challenge me, and subsequently lose. It was a couple months before that Korean boy managed to beat me at which point I was motivated to do research and practice to keep myself on top.
After several weeks of Google searching I became a lurker on various sites, one of which was Team Liquid. From team Liquid I discovered the Korean Starcraft scene and began enveloping myself in witnessing a player known as IPXZerg completely dominate.
It was quite inspirational. I turned my game playing habit into that of a spectator sport as I found ways to stream it and watch the action live. From there I eventually felt the urge to began contributing and get into discussions about professional level Starcraft. As my roommates and friends began to have fading interest after several months, I finally registered on Team Liquid to satisfy my desire.
I never thought I would have gotten as involved in it all as I have now. But I love it!
started lurking here around 2002 i think, i actually heard about this forum first over at the gamefaqs forums (it was so long ago, don't really remember haha). the first real progaming stuff i saw was from qpclan.org, i remember they hosted several fpvideos of boxer and DIDI and i thought it was insane. also i watched a lot of reps from tillerman's boxer rep archive - 99? 100? reps of boxer owning kids left and right including intotherain, grrrr, elky, ssamjjang, [z-zone]byun, etc etc. what REALLY got me hooked though, was in 2002 when i watched reach 3-1 boxer in the sky OGN finals... classic classic series, especially game 1 on gaema gowon and game 4 on neo forbidden zone (shout out to paleman and his website and the dc++ vod hub for distributing vods haha).
anyway, made an account in 2004 and... now i'm here. i was playing sc when spawning pools still cost 150 minerals, replays didn't exist, and 1 psi storm could kill a lurker. stopped playing a while back though, but i love keeping up with the proscene and tl.net does just that
p.s. anyone remember team IS and how stacked their roster was? so insane
mannn i came to the hotel too late =[ i remember when i got there everyone was like Nal ra was just in the building ! omgg. still took a pic with him at least
Yeah... that was the first time I'd met anyone from Team Liquid... there have been quite a few times since then though. But that Blizzcon trip really kicked off my further involvement.
I got to TL by being linked to here several times over the years by Lisk, and eventually I started lurking, and created an account a while later after having decided that the community was worth my presence.
I've yet to meet any TLnetters IRL though, but I'm sure it would be cool. Actually I kinda regret that I found out about the event in Paris so late, could have travelled the short distance by train and crashed at a friend's place whom I've wanted to visit anyway for a while now.
i came here from sclegacy in 2002, shortly after tlnet's inception looking for WCG reps. i don't remember how i found out about WCG, but i wanted to see the replays of the best players in the world and learn.
i lurked the broodwar forum looking for strategies to gain an edge on my friends (the days before the strategy forum existed) for 6 months until april of 2003 before finally mustering up the courage/confidence to create an account and start posting.
Been playing SC on/off since about 2000 (Only UMS because I suck at melee), and was never a part of an actual community, I heard about SC2, and deep in the subconsciousness of my mind, I recalled hearing of a site call Teamliquid that was a SC fansite, i figured they would have SC2 info so I joined up. I lurked for a couple months, but then I decided to get into the progaming thing and wanted to Liquibet, so I made an account.
my first boxer replay was the game vs didi8 on lost temple, 9v12. some random kid in x17 was showing them and after the first one i just kept on begging him for more and more, i think i stayed up till 5am watching and rewatching them.
a few years later i had entered college, and after a few months of puking my guts out in bathroom stalls and ditching classes i grew pretty sick of getting trashed every night. i started up starcraft again, and started laddering (i went 1-7 in the first season of pgtour) and playing 1v1s with old friends. we googled around for new korean replays and information and here i am today!
On September 12 2008 16:35 Zoler wrote: And what inspiried you to write this story ?
the whole ordeal of ra not being a player any more made me sad as it has everyone else, figured i'd share my story about him. i'm also curious because i was thinking about why/how i'm on TL and how my involvement got so deep... it's almost like a second job.
Well I had a huge many-year hiatus where I didn't play Starcraft (I was on WC3/DotA) until probably a little over a year ago when I came across some "current" VODs of pros on YouTube. I was shocked at how much strategies had evolved since when I played, and also how enjoyable it was to watch, because I was never much of a spectator when it came to e-sports. I started gathering information and watching lots of games, and when you want information on Starcraft progamers TL is definitely the optimum place to go. I've been lurking here for a long time and recently decided it was time to join the party.
On September 12 2008 17:28 intrigue wrote: susie do you play sc?
i hate saying that i do here on TL because everyone else that i know through this site is so amazingly good that i can hardly say that i play. rek's gonna come in here now and say that i dont even know what a hydralisk is blah blah but i used to play quite a bit when it came out in 1999 (that was my freshman year in college so mainly lan games with kids on in the dorms.) i play for fun not for competition and even now when going to pc bangs with friends, they know i'm terrible but we play to have a good time and for laughs. god knows i cant hold my own in 1v1. i enjoy the game but i'm rusty and now i'd rather watch than play.
I first learnt about starcraft from watching a boxer highlight vid in 2005 i think.. Thought "Holy shit". downloaded a replay pack and was fucking addicted. guy blew my mind away.,
Anyway I have been a long time BW player on Ender. Also weh have been playing loads of 3v3's 4v4's on hunters Via lan at high school, as well as in a Dungeon like i-net cafe.
One day there was a competition in Starcraft being held, I came there and with my style, goon zeal against anything, I came fourth. And when there was a high school Cyber Games in 2004 I got to meat some Czech Gosus, got caught in the 1v1 scene and was looking for some articles. I read everything from Wgtcl strategy section and googled Tl.net, reccomended threads, Mostly BigBalls And Breakdowns. Like half a year later I have been luring into other parts of it as well and well... thats my story, no Kang Min involved
On September 12 2008 16:35 Zoler wrote: And what inspiried you to write this story ?
the whole ordeal of ra not being a player any more made me sad as it has everyone else, figured i'd share my story about him. i'm also curious because i was thinking about why/how i'm on TL and how my involvement got so deep... it's almost like a second job.
oh ok. I thought maybe it was because of the blog about Boxer I wrote yesterday.
When Broodwar.com steadily declined in activity (I really dont know what year it was, around 01/02?) I searched for another site and found TL.net. At that point though I was more engaged with the German Starcraft community, so I only lurked. Due to Rage and Cow, who are both staffmembers here and also played BWCL for my clan I started to join the TL.net IRC channel and spend even more time reading the forums. I then eventually made an account for the first (or second?) TL.net chesstournament and have been a member ever since.
I wish I had a story on finding TL.net I just found it through youtube comments.... although since there is no such thing as "www.tl.net" I did have to do a little searching...
On September 12 2008 15:19 MeriaDoKk wrote: aaa my story is kind of boring compared to yours :S, i was browsing for some replays and accidently found TL.net, then i just read the forums and stuff because my english is not too good and I didn't want to not be able to communicate, finally i started to post and the rest is history, now im a freaking ZERGLING so hurray for me.
...Although I found WGT first..which helped me find TL..end of story
When all of the american run clan ladders started to die out (cloudmania, cloira, SCDL, BWDL) teamliqud formed their own website/forum (I forget the exact timing), I've been here lurking since the inception, I had an older account but I forgot the password to that one
My story sucks. In late '04 my Korean friend found his SC CDkey and immediately we started mass gaming on west (first time in.. iono 3~ years). It wasn't long before we'd made some friends, one of which, eras, recommended to me two starcraft sites to get replays etc. One was TL the other was SG.net (later gg.net). The ease and beauty of TL immediately attracted me, although i didn't sign up for another year when Pusan started destroying everything.
My brother was occupying DotA so i went to play starcraft on my old computer. Then I saw Boxer SCV rush. Then I just kind of lurked on TL for a while and then signed up and started trolling posting constructively.
Some people have such elaborate and fun stories I don't actually remember how I found TL since it was a long time ago. I had a different account before this one so it wasn't related directly to me joining HnR) and finding the site because other HnR) members were on the site... I think I found the site either via the Battle.net SC forums or from someone in public chat kj @ USEast [who might have been in HnR) since several of them also hung out there].
edit: I was starting to get interested in progaming after Blizzcon 2005 and I found Pimpest Plays 2005, I think. During Boxer's Vulture + Mine jump vs Terato, out came a quote from mensrea, and I was like, "Hmm maybe I'll check this website out." Rest is history ^_^
I lurked here consistently since maybe 2001. I mostly came to read about the pro scene. I remember reading about the epic OSL final with Boxer and Garimto back in 2001 or so. I remember following Nada's rise to power. I never have had highspeed at home, so I couldn't watch any of the VODS, and this place always had good write ups of the games. I only became a registered member in perhaps 2003 or 2004, and only started really using the forums maybe a year or two ago.
I forget exactly why I was looking for tips with regards to Starcraft, probably one of the bi-annual tourneys at my college coming up. I wasn't aware of any of the larger sites except sclegacy which seemed kind of dead forum wise when I visited it at the time. So I went over to the bnet S&T forums and I believe it was EvilTeletubby that mentioned Teamliquid.
Everyone else was blabbering about how TL is a bunch of elitist assholes which translated in my head to "these Teamliquid guys must know their shit" so I searched out TL, fished around the forums, and slowly started coming more and more often. Now every time I get online TL is one of the first things if not the first thing I check.
I was in China last summer right after school ended. This was also the time when SC II was announced. I've played SC ever since it came out in 98 but was never serious about it. I knew there were pros but I did not know exactly how good they were.
So one day last summer I was sititng in my grandma's living room and I thought maybe I could youtube some pro starcraft. To my great surprise, TONS of videos popped up. I didn't know which one to pick so I picked the one labeled "Nony-Artosis commentary Savior-Bisu MSL Final" or something to that effect. I watched the game, then the series. I was hooked. I had no idea how good these guys truly were. And believe it or not, I was not impressed by the protoss who won but by the zerg that lost. That zerg was of course Ma Jae Yoon. So he is the one that brought me back to starcraft and that's way he is my favorite player and always will be.
But I wanted MORE, I wanted to learn more about this fascinating pro-scene and I wanted to play SC again. I believe I heard either Nony or Artosis mention teamliquid somewhere or I saw it on the side of the video or something. Anyway I visited TL once and that was all that it took for me to stay.
edit: and what timing! I registered on TL almost exactly a year ago on the 17th! Ah sweet sweet love!
I was playing sc one day and went looking for help on the internet. I posted a really crappy noobfest rep of my friend and I on the blizzard forums. Decaf berated me for it, but in a nice way, sort of telling me that there was too much wrong with my play for him to even start giving advice. After this I forced myself into the pckj group, (Decaf, mahnini, Kau, Amor, several others) and made them all beat me over and over again in an attempt to get better. Mahnini and Kau ended up taking me under their collective wings and somewhere in there introduced me to TL, and you have been stuck with me since.
uh, ah, .. good question it's been 4 years now that i registered but i dunno really how i came across this site. prolly i was looking for infos on sc and after the misshappen gosugamers, discovered tl.net. i instantly liked the scene and posters here because of the maturity and knew that it was the real "core" of sc fans here... well, things have changed slightly over the years but one can still be content.
I use to play starcraft when the game first came out, but I stopped playing in 2002. When sc2 was announced it rekindled my interest in bw. I started playing the single player a little bit, and I went to the b.net forums. One day someone posted a link to a youtube video of some programers playing. I knew there was people who played bw professionally, but I had never seen it before. The game was absolutely amazing. I was totally blown away. The play was just so incredible. I couldnt believe what I was watching. It was the same game I played, but they were doing things I didnt even know were possible. I cant stress how amazing I thought it was. I then spent my entire weekend watching professional starcraft. I must have watched 50 games that weekend. It was just too good that I couldnt stop. I wanted to see more. I wanted to learn more. I wanted to play this game like a pro, not like the pathetic noob that I suddenly realised I was. I started searchingout sc related stuff and TL.net was the best thing out there. I started lurking on the forums for a few months, then eventually I decided to join.
Think I've been lurking around here ever since late 2002. I was a big Garimto fan back then. Finally signed up on April 27th 2003.
My first post, also related to the legendary Kang Min. A player who quickly rose to become my favourite after Garimto left the progaming scene:
On July 13 2003 16:40 LaLuSh wrote: NAL_RA DOES BIG GAEM HUNTERS STRAT, HAHA. NADA GETS EMBARASSED.
Stout MBC Starleague back in 2003. Nal_rA vs NaDa. Brings back memories, ohhhhh, the nostalgia. I was a die hard Kang Min fan from the beginning. Nal_rA probably is the only player I have never ever cheered against in a progaming match, regardless of which opponent he faced.
I used to play some BGH and fast map games back in 1999-2000 something. Then when I started high school in 2001 some guys in my class were talking about how they had played some LAN games and I mentioned how I had played a bit. So they invited me to come play with them one weekend and it turned out that I was way better (which more or less meant that I went 3-gate zealot which crushed their 1 base forge canon to carriers attempt). After that we started playing almost every weekend and eventually I found starcraftgamers (probably about 2002) and I still remember the first replay of pro-gamers I ever saw: Elky vs Sync on Vertigo and how amazed I was at the dropship micro and how they didn't just attack move their armies against each other in the center =) After that I started looking at more replays and I also found Palemans VOD site which introduced me to the emperor himself, and his games vs Yellow in Coca-Cola OSL and Garimto in 2001 SKY OSL. I still hung around scg though and thought that TL.net was just a bunch of assholes, especially Rekrul =D However, with toptalents (much love to him) old site I got to see oov vs yellow and oov vs Nada finals as well as oov vs Nal_ra on reqiuem from Gilette OSL. I think that this was about the same time that the old VOD thread started, and since you had to be an active member to get the password for the files I started doing liquibets and semi-spamming the comment thread to get enough posts. I've been stuck ever since...I've actually asked PoP to open liquibets early, just so that I wouldn't miss any bets going on vacation =D
On September 12 2008 15:40 EvilTeletubby wrote: I just visited more and more until it was clear THIS was the place I wanted to be. The only thing I feel a bit bad about is that I've hardly met anyone from TL.net, and I would REALLY like to go to some meet-ups, I just wish more things happened on the east coast.
Well I guess I'll share my store in this conversation
1999. Korea was recovering from IMF and many of my neighbor friends who had office dads failed . Fortunately my dad was a professor so we didn't suffer much from an economic standpoint. However during this time PCbangs became a huge success because
Unemployed Men + Games with payed Time = LOLOLOLOLPROFIT
My friends and I first played some shit ass Korean MMO (which oddly resembled Shining Force) called "DarkSaver." Like every korean MMO, it was a grindtastic game that was total shit. I just played Kingdom of Wind and Darksaver everytime I went there, but everyone else besides me played Starcraft. I was curious to what game it was but I didn't give a shit because My lvl 4 Kraken Knight was one badass Motherfucker. Then one day one of my friends who got "cable tv (note during this time cable TV was a sign of LUXURY in Korea, my dad told me I needed to keep dreaming ) told me Starcraft was played on Tooniverse(cartoon network)! I was like WTF NO WAI, THEY PLAY GAMES ON TV?
Then I went over my friend's house and saw this whole pro gaming scene~ A white dude(giyom) in a space suit using protoss with a crowd. I was shocked and awed. Ever since that day I decided to watch every single game possible!
Then I was sent to the states to learn engrish
It was 2007 when I finally returned to the progaming scene and this time I was even more shocked! Why were there so many new players? What the shit was going on? I was so confused! My Korean was so rusty and I didn't know any English websites. Then I found a certain video on youtube with some white guys holding up a sign during a game that said
"tl.net"
Out of curiosity I typed that up in google and it led me right here! I was so happy I got information in english and people were very active. I lurked for about an year then registered. So here I am
I came here in 2004, got banned at the end of that year and came back in 2005.. a bit more reserved Yeah I know..
At the time if you played bw you posted on TL.net. It was the authority and it was where all the top gamers communicated, networked etc. Now I post here for the hilarity and secondarily for the bw networking!
I remember getting starcraft several years back, losing interest in it and letting it gather dust. Early last year (around the time of Savior's fall) I started to play again. I was searching for Terran guides and was linked here because of the Daze guide. I started lurking and then joined later.
I believe I got directed to TL through some VOD on youtube... now that I think of it, it was probably the Bisu vs Savior MSL S3 finals that started it all. I was like DAMNNNN wtf that zerg just got owned. And so I looked for more VODs, and then somehow heard of TL. I'm not all that sure, though my profile says I joined just over a year ago so...I guess I forget things fast :-o
Susie you play WoW? I used to as well, raiding hunter who rolled a tanking/healing/shockadin pally for alt fun on the US Bronzebeard server.
I remember surfing around some sites looking for the replay after boxer famously lost to josez in wcg 2002, and I think I found it here. Not sure if this was how I found TL the first time though, it's been so long.
I vaguely remember that I started browsing on TL.net on late 2002 and finally created an account sometime mid 2003.
Now that I think of it...I might have somehow gotten the link to TL from either sclegacy.com or broodwar.com, because those were the two sc sites that I visit before TL.net
I don't remember exactly how I found tl, but it was probably through gg.net. My first sc site was sclegacy.com because of their pimpest plays, and I later moved to gg.net when I discovered their replays and replay packs (I had dial-up which my dad limited at the time, so I spent more time downloading replays than actually playing sc). Even when I had registered on the site I didn't post much. My first post was "Happy Hannukah ~~" in the thread "Merry Christmas from the TL.net staff" lol. I think I realized this site's member base was far superior to gg.net's and became more active through posting maps and stuff from/for broodwarmaps.net. I'd always get good posts from here, and mostly trash at gg.net. I think the vast majority of my posts here are related to mapping.
Now that I think about it, I think I might've found this site through either the TANL, or Rekrul's progaming gossip posts.
So I dunno how it happened, but I visit this site throughout the day, every day now. I think at first through lurking I thought the mods were too strict and decided to not post lol.
Started coming here in 02 or so I guess, just for reading the Battle reports from the old OSLs and following progaming in general, rarely read the forums until 03-04 or so, and finally registered late 04. Since then I have read a lot on the forums. I don`t remember how I found the site, think it could have been a link from a Norwegian community site.
So I haven`t been the most active poster, but an avid reader!
Wow that was such a cool story, Thanks for sharing.
I found TL just from links on the internet and youtube videos. Since I kept noticing TL over and over, I decided to check it out, after a week of looking at TL during school, I was addicted.
I always found links of Tl.net on gg.net. So then i thought that this site must be pretty big, and then lurked around for a bit, and then finally decided to post.
I don't really have a huge story. My brothers/cousins played StarCraft back when it came out. I wasn't extremely interested at the time. I was just familiar with the game. My brother (Blind) found TL in 2002 when it was made. I saw a couple VODs when he watched them. Last year, one of my cousins wanted to get into it. My other cousin already knew how to play and is pretty decent (Peter[Deuce]). We are all the same age/grade and hang out together at school so we usually SC together. That's about it.
Oh I found TL about 02 or 03 I think? When I was watching some WCG and was trying to figure who the hell was that Liquid.Nazgul guy because HellGhost (brazilian player on that wcg) posted on a brazilian forum a link to here saying something about how good he thought Nazgul were and how bad he thought Grrr was. So I was thinking "wow this might be awesome if he's better than Grrr", but turns out HellGhost was just tripping
On May 22 2008 00:49 d.arkive wrote: Primeval Isles. Epic map. Epic battles.
oh god please don't remind me.
The first time I played SC with another human being was a 2v2 on Primeval Isles. We all had like 40APM. I was terran, my team mate was terran, my opponents were terran and zerg. The game went something like this:
me: "lol i remember dis stuff i used to use protoss and build a lot of dark archons and maelstrom when the comp tries to nuke me. nukes are so OP" me: "lol i love mass siege tanks best strategy ever" (by mass at the time i meant like 10) me: "lol wat i don't remember this game at all.. umm how do i tech to siege tanks?" zerg: "get vespene and factory and stuff" me: "k" terran ally: "lol yeah me too" terran opponent: "nukes are really good LOLOLOL" *10 minutes later i realize that it's an island map as i'm starting to run low on minerals me: "WTF ITS AN ISLAND MAP" zerg: "ya duh" me: "fuk" *i'm frantically building a starport and a command center *15 minutes in or so i get comsat. I scan randomly and see a zerg expo base me: lol i found ur extra base dude zerg: lol which one me: wat *20 minutes in i send a dropship with two siege tanks over to said base and it gets annihilated by a mass of mutas and spore colonies me: wtf dude how did u get dat much zergs zerg: lol idk me: k terran opponent: so wait how do you build nukes again? i forgot terran ally: uhhhhh i think you have to get armory me: no it's science facility terran opponent: oh okay *30 minutes in i'm looking at my expansion base and then suddenly "Your forces are under attack" me: wat *i look back at my base and something like 24 guardians and 24 devourers and 12 ovies are floating over my base. my antiair consists of 1 valk, 3 missile turrets, 5 marines, 1 goli, something like that. me: HOLY SHIT LOOK AT MY BASE WTF HOW THE HELL DID YOU DO THAT zerg: lol i have like all the bases on the map me: o zerg: lol me: omfg guardians imba zerg: lol zerg is rly good yah me: omfg gay zerg: lol
In my quest to beat this Zerg player I found boxer replays.
So I go online a few days later. I remember someone telling me about this guy named Boxer who's the best player in the world. I kept thinking like "meh this game is kind of dumb it's just about who builds more shit mainly". So I find this replay of Boxer vs. Ever)P(Zealot and I'm just like whattttttt the helllllllllllll vultures and mines and patrol button?????_???? pretty soon i start downloading boxer replays off of gosugamers and i find the "gundam rush build order" on some really shitty starcraft forum and i proceeded to use it to beat my friends every game, even the Zs and the Ts. After about a few months I notice that this teamliquid place seems to know what's up. So I came here.
On September 13 2008 00:44 HnR)Insane wrote: Some people have such elaborate and fun stories I don't actually remember how I found TL since it was a long time ago. I had a different account before this one so it wasn't related directly to me joining HnR) and finding the site because other HnR) members were on the site... I think I found the site either via the Battle.net SC forums or from someone in public chat kj @ USEast [who might have been in HnR) since several of them also hung out there].
haha Peter.
My story is similar to yours, i basically just channel surfed till i played in a SGD tournament that i believe draeger ran in like late 2003 early 2004. Then stuck around with the Public chat kj crew on east till one day ETT mentioned that he was liquibetting, and i was like "wtf is liquibetting?"
after random insults thrown my way, i was linked to teamliquid, and ive been here since, mainly lurking, but still here.
Since last september i've tried to be more active in the community and contribute more, and through those efforts, i met infinity21, chill, and bill307 last winter for a lan at my place.
I have no idea how I started following teamliquid. I might have found my way here from reading SC battle reports at battlereports.com a long long time ago. I may also have found my way here from zileas.net which I spent some time at.
rofl kennigit at your first thread topic! ^^ I used to visit ggnet alot, but then they kinda got worse and worse. and I had visited TL.net before, but thought it was boring. Too much text and to much stuff to read. But now, I spend way to much time here. TL.net is like starcraft. You really have to discover the beauty to get amazed and love it ^^ Your all cool! <3
and lilsusie, thanks for this blog have you ever met Ra after this? whatever happened to him and foreign scene, like you guys hang to gather at blizzcon. Was nothin like you guys met up with Sea recently? Have you thought about asking him out again? ^^ you know, since he retires now, he prolly has alot of time available!
On September 13 2008 03:03 OrderlyChaos wrote: I remember getting starcraft several years back, losing interest in it and letting it gather dust. Early last year (around the time of Savior's fall) I started to play again. I was searching for Terran guides and was linked here because of the Daze guide. I started lurking and then joined later.
On September 13 2008 11:12 ThePhan2m wrote: rofl kennigit at your first thread topic! ^^ I used to visit ggnet alot, but then they kinda got worse and worse. and I had visited TL.net before, but thought it was boring. Too much text and to much stuff to read. But now, I spend way to much time here. TL.net is like starcraft. You really have to discover the beauty to get amazed and love it ^^ Your all cool! <3
and lilsusie, thanks for this blog have you ever met Ra after this? whatever happened to him and foreign scene, like you guys hang to gather at blizzcon. Was nothin like you guys met up with Sea recently? Have you thought about asking him out again? ^^ you know, since he retires now, he prolly has alot of time available!
last time we hung out he had a girlfriend and i'm pretty sure he's still with her.
On September 13 2008 01:07 Phyre wrote: So I went over to the bnet S&T forums and I believe it was EvilTeletubby that mentioned Teamliquid.
Haha, always glad to help!
On September 13 2008 02:33 ilovezil wrote: East coast? Son, where do you live?
Near Baltimore, Maryland
On September 13 2008 09:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Then stuck around with the Public chat kj crew on east till one day ETT mentioned that he was liquibetting, and i was like "wtf is liquibetting?"
Haha, that's 2 people I got!
And yeah, I actually remember that conversation in PCKJ. I also remember doing well in liquibet that season, then I'm pretty sure you've kicked my ass every season afterwards.
I found TL through a channel called Public Chat KJ@USEast. Some people were talking about it, and I decided to check it out. Glad I did, because the General forum is #1
On September 13 2008 09:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Then stuck around with the Public chat kj crew on east till one day ETT mentioned that he was liquibetting, and i was like "wtf is liquibetting?"
Haha, that's 2 people I got!
And yeah, I actually remember that conversation in PCKJ. I also remember doing well in liquibet that season, then I'm pretty sure you've kicked my ass every season afterwards.
i was sitting on bnet in whatever was the popular channel at the time (probably clan rekrul or something dirty like that) when nazgul came in and linked us to the site.
On September 13 2008 09:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Then stuck around with the Public chat kj crew on east till one day ETT mentioned that he was liquibetting, and i was like "wtf is liquibetting?"
Haha, that's 2 people I got!
And yeah, I actually remember that conversation in PCKJ. I also remember doing well in liquibet that season, then I'm pretty sure you've kicked my ass every season afterwards.
If we could find a mid-point for all those willing, we should get a small gathering together somewhere near, then. Maryland itself isn't too far a drive from philly anyways.
On September 14 2008 02:00 ilovezil wrote: If we could find a mid-point for all those willing, we should get a small gathering together somewhere near, then. Maryland itself isn't too far a drive from philly anyways.
*shrugs* I wouldn't mind driving a little, Philly is only like 2-3 hours away.
I was googling something completely unrelated to starcraft, and saw a website called "teamliquid" in the search results. I thought the name was cool so I clicked on it. The cool layout and overwhelming amount of information blew me away. I started playing starcraft again.
I found tl.net after spending some time in op or probably clan amat at the time. I remember seeing a few people from tl.net there, including waxangel. I don't know how long it took me to join after I came here, but I probably actually went to the site around 2002. I have a very bad memory. as soon as I saw this thread, reminded me of this picture.
Actually played AoE2 TC back in the day a lot. I loved RTS and thought AoE2 was harder.. yeah right. But most of my friends here played SC so I kinda got dragged in somewhere around early or late '01 and we played a bunch all until '04 or so. Of course we were like 60 APM newbs..
Occasionally played some UMS during college, but as youtube as blossoming (after google bought it I think it got a lot bigger faster) I somehow got linked to a lot of pro SC vids which intrigued me. Inevitably somehow I got linked back to TL.net and I have lurked pretty much since last year until early April/May or so when I started posting occasionally.
On September 13 2008 02:33 ilovezil wrote: East coast? Son, where do you live?
Near Baltimore, Maryland
Psshh, I think Jathin is at John's Hopkins med school now. I am planning on going to UMaryland med school for next fall (currently near DC w/ a few friends who follow pro SC). There's people around.. just gotta find them.
On September 14 2008 02:00 ilovezil wrote: If we could find a mid-point for all those willing, we should get a small gathering together somewhere near, then. Maryland itself isn't too far a drive from philly anyways.
*shrugs* I wouldn't mind driving a little, Philly is only like 2-3 hours away.
Sweet! Let's try to meet up sometime, then. Whoever else can meetup would be welcome too
On September 14 2008 02:00 ilovezil wrote: If we could find a mid-point for all those willing, we should get a small gathering together somewhere near, then. Maryland itself isn't too far a drive from philly anyways.
*shrugs* I wouldn't mind driving a little, Philly is only like 2-3 hours away.
Sweet! Let's try to meet up sometime, then. Whoever else can meetup would be welcome too
That's fine, just try to let me know as far in advance as you can since my work schedule is kinda wierd.
On September 14 2008 08:16 lovelyrose wrote: I found tl.net after spending some time in op or probably clan amat at the time. I remember seeing a few people from tl.net there, including waxangel. I don't know how long it took me to join after I came here, but I probably actually went to the site around 2002. I have a very bad memory. as soon as I saw this thread, reminded me of this picture.
On September 13 2008 11:12 ThePhan2m wrote: rofl kennigit at your first thread topic! ^^ I used to visit ggnet alot, but then they kinda got worse and worse. and I had visited TL.net before, but thought it was boring. Too much text and to much stuff to read. But now, I spend way to much time here. TL.net is like starcraft. You really have to discover the beauty to get amazed and love it ^^ Your all cool! <3
and lilsusie, thanks for this blog have you ever met Ra after this? whatever happened to him and foreign scene, like you guys hang to gather at blizzcon. Was nothin like you guys met up with Sea recently? Have you thought about asking him out again? ^^ you know, since he retires now, he prolly has alot of time available!
last time we hung out he had a girlfriend and i'm pretty sure he's still with her.
Bumping this thread for great justice, and because its pimp! Just as a reminder lilsusie, if Kang Min is ever single again, hook up with him and have NeverGG hide in the closet with camera ready..... Nal_rA DO WORK! Anywho........
I found TL via retsukage//Blizzcon 07, but really didn't start playing till after Blizzcon '08. At both events for some reason I hated Savior and followed Nal_rA through the qualifying rounds and loved his play.
But anyway, these are fun to read, so I do what I do best, bump old threads
Hey, Rek. Not much. Doing stuff. Saving the world, usually from itself (I warned those fuckers to regulate the geezus out of derivatives, but people only listen after they're already in freefall).
Your post count puts mine to shame. But, so does almost everyone else's now. Sheesh.
Looks like some good times in those photos, Rek. Wish I could've been there.
way i came accross this site was stumbling upon a youtube video of a game casted by tasteless, in which a player ggs 5 minutes into a game merely due to losing 3 goons to a mine, this made me think this g ame must be incredibely competitive. hence i continued watching more and more tasteless casted games on youtube until i stumbled on a link to the gom invitational, where tasteless repeatedly mentioned teamliquid.
I don't think anyone will have half an awesome story as that one lilsusie; friends who like starcraft knew I liked trolling people so they hooked me up with this site
whoa it's mensrea! I think I saw one of his posts before he disappeared into nothingness. and now some dude he doesn't know (me) has more posts than him. Thanks for the bump. I hadn't read this before.
was during summer a year or two ago and i come back home from my uncle's factory from work. take a shower go to my friends house to chill. we start playing some fighting games to pass some time so we can go to go catch a movie. his brother challenges me to a random game of starcraft since he just lost a match in 3rd Strike (SF). i like "wtf is starcraft?", "u mean warcraft". he says "nah son imma zergrush your ass". we play with his brother helping me as i play terran and get run over by dt's and carriers. we play 3 more times where i get throughly embarrassed. i said who plays this game? they proceed to show me these two videos
originally started playing sc on 2003 after a friend of mine made me play it. Back then i thought I tanks could shoot air (why else were they holding firmly to the ground?!) and saw him mass cannon BGH and realized protoss = God
Played w/ protoss for a bit and went to Korea after my freshmen yr of hs (summer of 2004) and then i met boxer...
afterward i got into the whole playing starcraft professionally phase and found out about TL but nvr cared enough to join and browsed it like how i browsed SC:L.
freshmen yr of college I really got into starcraft and started reading TL more and more and by sophomore year decided it was time to join and get to know the community better.
I've been playing BW forever and met many former SC players on WC3 such as Tillerman, Agent911, Maynard and Alucard when I played for nX, rS, and TT. This was long before Grubby dominated the scene fyi, these were the days of SK.Insomnia. There were some others but I can't remember for the life of me. I attended WCG USA 2003 representing clan TT and finished 3rd behind Gentho and Ironclad(aka Ghostridah), as I was rejoicing over winning my awesome new computer, I saw that a player named Rekrul had won the SC tournament. After that it just snowballed into learning about elky, Grrr..., Fisheye, and other foreigners, I saw some stuff on Boxer and TL.net just popped in there some where. Soon after I would go back to Counter-Strike as my game and stop playing WC3 after TFT beta, though I continued to lurk on teamliquid. After a brief stint of WoW and a 768th comeback to Counter-Strike, one of my teammates got me into playing low money in late 2008 and I finally signed up to thank Stylish for his Terran guide!
I played on and off since it's release, mostly single player, I frequented the Aus-1 server (where all the Australians hanged out before B.Net became popular). In 2003 a guy named SpuniasauR (WHERE ARE YOU) had the link in his profile. I lurked the website and befriended him. Olympus OSL just finished and the mycube OSL just started. I was very intrigued that Koreans played Starcraft as a sport. Signed up for an account in early 2004, started posting, and decided to get myself more into not only Starcraft, but e-Sports in general. and here I am.
lol wtf I don't even remember this thread. I was going to post my story after I read all the comments then I realized I was the first one to respond xD
How did I come to tl.net? (Not that I'm a particularly useful member, so it's irrelevant, but a chance to tell about myself is always welcome.)
Well, I came from a family that, when I was growing up, was deeply suspicious of video games, TV, etc - despite the fact that we've had computers around for as long as I can remember. In high school I started sneaking time playing online MMOSGs like Planetarion (it used to be free), and somewhere someone mentioned SC. A couple months later, I was at a friend's house, and he introduced me to Starcraft. Not much later, I took what (in my highschool sheltered mind seemed like) a daring step, and bought the game. Even before that, I had found the battle.net site and basically memorized the stats. I wandered onto the old SC.org and battle.net forums under the (idiotic) alias EmeraldDass, and was quickly introduced to internet humor. "EmeraldAss" taught me to be a little more careful about my user names. About the only thing I did right there was figuring out that ExcaliburZ was right more often than many of the goofballs. From there I found my way to battlereports.com, where I hung out as PeaceableGhost, and there I met the proscene. Yellow vs oov and Boxer vs joyo were my introduction. Then I went to college and forgot about it. Of course I kept playing some - I was actually one of the better players I knew because I had picked up things like "keep making stuff" and could 10/12 gate.
The summer after college, I remembered the game, and for about two weeks put some serious time in. I rejoined sc.org, (or warboards, or the nexus, or whatever it is now), and started lurking on br.com again. I even wrote a report (on Diplomacy). Now, PsyonicReaver had started doing commentary, so I ended up joining sc2gg.com, found nevake (the tl youtube) from there, and started lurking on tl for links to streams. Then I got a job, so my efforts at playing died. But just freeloading seemed like bad taste, so I just joined the site after a while. It's an awesome place, and I've tried to contribute something, but I mostly feel like I don't know anything about the game anymore, meaning my contributions are limited to stats and bad jokes.
(Warning: The last post in this thread is over three months old. If you bump this, you'd better have a good reason!) not sure, but that has never stopped me before ; i feel that this thread should never disappear, .. when i first stumbled upon it i could not bump it
i found tl 5 years ago when looking for map making communities and got an account right to way to post of how glad i had found a forum with active mapmakers
i've always played more than watched and never thought i could appreciate/get hooked to other people playing something i could play myself (as in, i had the game and i had the ladder if not enough available friends) .. thank you to all tl members who managed to prove me wrong.
now.. about how "you came to love tl"... because, in essence, that is another question altogether.. well, that is a story for another time/thread
just to nudge, i'll at least say that 1/ i poped my forum cherry on tl, and while nothing is ever perfect (me included), tl is as close to the best one can hope for in a forum dedicated to gaming 2/ it took me a year or two to balance out the love/hate relationship that i have with tl and to understand the difference between tl viewers (even if they post) and tl members 3/ i wish i could post in the change my name thread 4/ thank you for your patience where/when applicable 5/ tl is the largest functioning gaming forum, that is like saying that if you want to partake in said gaming culture community, you have to be striving to be a member of tl .. where the love/hate relationship fuses .. its like being instead of not being
thank you to all the people who posted, here's hoping the missing do post + Show Spoiler +
(i feel this thread would make an excellent disneyland substitute)
Hi there Susie, i know this against TL etiquette reviving an old thread, but i read an espn article about you and i just wanted you to know, that you and your work have a lot of fans, lurking, reading, too lazy to post and too lazy to say thank you.
I felt it appropriate to thank you here, because this is the place i found an esports community myself. The espn article was good, but i think one article cant encompass everything you have done for the foreign community.
So thank you for everything you have done!
There are a lot of people reading everywhere from reddit to tl, that appreciate your work without ever saying anything, just reading listening and enjoying. Please keep up the good work and whatever unwarranted negativity you get please always remember that there are many people watching and supporting you that dont voice their oppinion. Sry we are lazy :-)
So again thank you.
P.S. If anyone knows a way to a tasteless hotelparty pls let me know.
EPT
(Can't seem to remember how I got into TeamLiquid, tbh).
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