I started ICCUP recently. A few seasons ago I made it to C as a protoss.

Now I made a new account, because I want to start new as a fresh Terran, since I'm working on TvP at the moment, and I've been able to beat C-/C players with it. 2-0 - looking good.

Then I bump into a D- person and decided to play him, considering my T isn't that good. I'm pretty confident I'll win and play on. BUT he went double gate, then went fast dt's and I lost.

I then go on to check his record, and he was 6-36.

I hate when you lose to players you should DEFINITELY win against!

terranmetal

Canada153 Posts

August 04 2008 07:21 GMT

sometimes the best strategies are the cheesiest. Don't sweat it, you would win him in macro war like most good players do. This type of stuff used to piss me off, but I've gotten to the point where I feel calm knowing I could win a best of 3 with them.

stenole

Norway869 Posts

August 04 2008 07:29 GMT

If you care so much about winning, you should play safer when playing against people you think are much worse than you.

NrG.Bamboo

United States2756 Posts

August 04 2008 07:36 GMT

I hate messing around on West and getting cheesed by an FPM player on LT or something like that. Everyone who's watching doesn't understand the concept of cheese (since they all play fpm) and thus believes the other guy is the best player ever (even though he must be below D- iCCup)

That gets pretty irritating because no matter how many wins you get, as long as someone beats you with any sort of strategy, they like the automatically think that person is better.

Shit sucks.

blabber

United States4448 Posts

August 04 2008 07:36 GMT

I think it just shows you how bad your T is and how incapable us Protoss players are of using T

intrigue

Washington, D.C9935 Posts

August 04 2008 07:42 GMT

On August 04 2008 16:36 blabber wrote:
I think it just shows you how bad your T is and how incapable us Protoss players are of using T

smart man

clazziquai

6685 Posts

August 04 2008 07:54 GMT

On August 04 2008 16:36 blabber wrote:
I think it just shows you how bad your T is and how incapable us Protoss players are of using T

that's why my T can win against AT LEAST C- players, right?

BottleAbuser

Korea (South)1888 Posts

August 04 2008 07:59 GMT

Eh. You lost to this guy. You've beaten guys who would beat this guy easily. Maybe you would beat this guy if you played him again.

Maybe you really are more skilled, and he just got lucky.

But keep in mind that the perfect strategy accounts for everything, and maybe you can refine your play to deal with (considering D-, probably poorly executed) cheese.

Oh, and to respond to OP title... yes, it's happened to me before, and I didn't like it.

.kaz

1963 Posts

August 04 2008 08:01 GMT

On August 04 2008 16:54 clazziquai wrote:

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that's why my T can win against AT LEAST C- players, right?

Standard TvP is easy though, macro macro macro, oh he made a mistake, push, win.
If you don't want to lose to this, just TvP a lot and you will notice low unit count and timings etc etc. Its my honest opinion that c- toss players are probably around d+ terran level (not using terran, but skill wise) because they seem to have it easier at low levels with use of cheese and the terrans and zergs not yet having the mechanics and micro required to be good at TvP and such.

clazziquai

6685 Posts

August 04 2008 08:10 GMT

#10

On August 04 2008 17:01 .kaz wrote:

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Yep =) TvP is all about timing but as I keep playing, I'm learning more and more about this matchup.
It's fun though and definitely my favorite

BottleAbuser

Korea (South)1888 Posts

August 04 2008 08:17 GMT

#11

Yes! Someone else who shares my love of TvP. Everyone tells me that Terrans should focus on TvZ because everyone hates people who are only good at TvP and no good at TvZ. Well, FUCK YOU ALL. HAH. I NOW HAVE MORAL SUPPORT.

NrG.Bamboo

United States2756 Posts

August 04 2008 08:38 GMT

#12

On August 04 2008 17:17 BottleAbuser wrote:
Yes! Someone else who shares my love of TvP. Everyone tells me that Terrans should focus on TvZ because everyone hates people who are only good at TvP and no good at TvZ. Well, FUCK YOU ALL. HAH. I NOW HAVE MORAL SUPPORT.

Fuck yeah~
All I can win is TvP lol. But I used to be a Protoss so that would kind of explain why I can play it -_-;

knyttym

United States5797 Posts

August 04 2008 08:44 GMT

#13

share your secrets with me! I can't win a TvP to save my life.
Maybe its because I've been playing zerg for a while, but winning with Terran has become harder than ever before.

BottleAbuser

Korea (South)1888 Posts

August 04 2008 08:46 GMT

#14

2 fac. Build an engineering bay and float it over their minerals. 3 tanks + 5 marines + 15 stacked scvs > EVERYTHING. MUAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHA

NrG.Bamboo

United States2756 Posts

August 04 2008 09:31 GMT

#15

On August 04 2008 17:44 kNyTTyM wrote:
share your secrets with me! I can't win a TvP to save my life.
Maybe its because I've been playing zerg for a while, but winning with Terran has become harder than ever before.

Well if you really want me to help you can msg me NrG.Bamboo @ iCCup whenever and I'd be glad to critique a replay or something :p

Dr.Dragoon

United States1241 Posts

August 04 2008 09:44 GMT

#16

Sometimes I wonder if there are a few individuals who lose like 30 games on purpose, then absolutely destroy someone to make them feel horrible.

SnowFantasy

4173 Posts

August 04 2008 11:05 GMT

#17

Yeah there are, but its usually found in 2v2.

People will get D- on purpose and then play normally so that their partner gets bonus points to rank up faster.

LuMiX

China5758 Posts

August 04 2008 12:06 GMT

#18

ive never seen that happen on iccup...someone getting on a D- rank to give their ally a few extra points...it wouldn't be that helpful anyway - most likely they will still be a D rank team o_O