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Polyphasic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States841 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-17 01:06:24
May 17 2008 00:51 GMT
#1
So you guys who have been to places like: www.redtube.com, www.tube8.com, or www.youporn.com will notice that there are a lot of guys who have sex and they record it for whatever reason.

I do my share of clubbing and picking up girls. Most of them are one night stands. I have so far been in the habit of getting their number, and then taking a picture with my phone just so I "remember who they are", but really it's kind of like collecting ears in Diablo. Honestly, I have yet to get a dead on 10 yet, but I'd say I'm hovering around the 8s with the occasional 7 or 9 quality girls.

So do you guys know of where I can get some very very very small digital cameras, like the ones that look like sunglasses and nobody knows you are recording? I think bang brothers has some of those, or at least I saw some people using them while picking up and banging chicks, but I don't know where to get them or how much they cost. Would love one though . then I can build my video collection instead of just my crappy cell phone picture collection, which I don't even know how to save on the computer.



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can't making a relationship last longer than 2 weeks, since 1984 :thumbs:
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-17 00:59:55
May 17 2008 00:55 GMT
#2
http://www.spygear4u.com/proddetail.asp?prod=KB-C6000
best I could find, good luck!

Also your title is misleading, you're not planning to sell these are you? Unless you get the consent of these girls you can't sell these. On the off chance you didn't realize, all the bangbro and any voyeur videos being sold (free ones are probably real) are actually staged and they have to get everyone to sign contracts first.
ulszz
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Jamaica1787 Posts
May 17 2008 01:00 GMT
#3
hahahaha, that idea is pretty bad ass. might be hard to pull of if you want closeups with decent angles. if you go back to your house you could just set up a little camera in the corner of your room, hidden of course.
everliving, everfaithful, eversure
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
May 17 2008 01:03 GMT
#4
Also just don't end up like this guy
http://www.tuckermax.com/archives/entries/tucker_tries_buttsex_hilarity_does_not_ensue.phtml
Zortch
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada635 Posts
May 17 2008 01:06 GMT
#5
Wow...thats pretty awful...
Respect is everything. ~ARchon
Polyphasic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States841 Posts
May 17 2008 01:12 GMT
#6
On May 17 2008 09:55 Falcynn wrote:
http://www.spygear4u.com/proddetail.asp?prod=KB-C6000
best I could find, good luck!

Also your title is misleading, you're not planning to sell these are you? Unless you get the consent of these girls you can't sell these. On the off chance you didn't realize, all the bangbro and any voyeur videos being sold (free ones are probably real) are actually staged and they have to get everyone to sign contracts first.


who says i need their consent if i'm just posting this online for free and not making money? any donations i might receive will be sent directly to Africa to help the starving children.

On May 17 2008 10:00 ulszz wrote:
hahahaha, that idea is pretty bad ass. might be hard to pull of if you want closeups with decent angles. if you go back to your house you could just set up a little camera in the corner of your room, hidden of course.


yes, it will be hidden. of course.

I imagine it'll be something like this:
nsfw:

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.redtube.com/3892
can't making a relationship last longer than 2 weeks, since 1984 :thumbs:
Polyphasic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States841 Posts
May 17 2008 01:12 GMT
#7
On May 17 2008 10:06 Zortch wrote:
Wow...thats pretty awful...


ya whatever. you know you want it .
can't making a relationship last longer than 2 weeks, since 1984 :thumbs:
Polyphasic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States841 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-17 01:17:45
May 17 2008 01:14 GMT
#8
On May 17 2008 09:55 Falcynn wrote:
http://www.spygear4u.com/proddetail.asp?prod=KB-C6000
best I could find, good luck!

Also your title is misleading, you're not planning to sell these are you? Unless you get the consent of these girls you can't sell these. On the off chance you didn't realize, all the bangbro and any voyeur videos being sold (free ones are probably real) are actually staged and they have to get everyone to sign contracts first.



Dang, sunglass cameras, not sunglass camcorders... so close... so close.. man i was hyped up until i noticed they were cameras not camcorders. the peppermint gum audio recorder is pretty cool. i can easily have that in my breast pocket while i'm talking to the ladies. This could be cool for having a "hand history" or "replay with audio" of PUAing. hehe
can't making a relationship last longer than 2 weeks, since 1984 :thumbs:
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
May 17 2008 01:14 GMT
#9
On May 17 2008 10:12 Polyphasic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2008 09:55 Falcynn wrote:
http://www.spygear4u.com/proddetail.asp?prod=KB-C6000
best I could find, good luck!

Also your title is misleading, you're not planning to sell these are you? Unless you get the consent of these girls you can't sell these. On the off chance you didn't realize, all the bangbro and any voyeur videos being sold (free ones are probably real) are actually staged and they have to get everyone to sign contracts first.


who says i need their consent if i'm just posting this online for free and not making money? any donations i might receive will be sent directly to Africa to help the starving children.

Show nested quote +
On May 17 2008 10:00 ulszz wrote:
hahahaha, that idea is pretty bad ass. might be hard to pull of if you want closeups with decent angles. if you go back to your house you could just set up a little camera in the corner of your room, hidden of course.


yes, it will be hidden. of course.

I imagine it'll be something like this:
nsfw:

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.redtube.com/3892
lol ok, I just wasn't sure what you meant by starting a porn business.
Michaelj
Profile Joined February 2008
United States186 Posts
May 17 2008 01:16 GMT
#10
IANAL but this seems like it could come back to bite you in the ass in some sort of lawsuit. Imagine what would happen if one of the girls you filmed happened to be under 18... that would be pretty serious
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shmay
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States1091 Posts
May 17 2008 01:16 GMT
#11
are you really poly phasic?
._.
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
1133 Posts
May 17 2008 01:18 GMT
#12
Thanks for the porn sites, now I'm gonna be a man now.
:D
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-17 01:21:15
May 17 2008 01:20 GMT
#13
On May 17 2008 10:14 Polyphasic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2008 09:55 Falcynn wrote:
http://www.spygear4u.com/proddetail.asp?prod=KB-C6000
best I could find, good luck!

Also your title is misleading, you're not planning to sell these are you? Unless you get the consent of these girls you can't sell these. On the off chance you didn't realize, all the bangbro and any voyeur videos being sold (free ones are probably real) are actually staged and they have to get everyone to sign contracts first.



Dang, sunglass cameras, not sunglass camcorders... so close... so close.. man i was hyped up until i noticed they were cameras not camcorders. the peppermint gum audio recorder is pretty cool. i can easily have that in my breast pocket while i'm talking to the ladies. This could be cool for having a "hand history" or "replay with audio" of PUAing. hehe
Well there's also this
http://www.spygear4u.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SG-VEGC01
it claims they're video glasses. However they seem a bit less...inconspicuous than the sunglasses, and they're waaaaay more expensive (well...obviously).
Polyphasic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States841 Posts
May 17 2008 01:20 GMT
#14
On May 17 2008 10:16 shmay wrote:
are you really poly phasic?


depends on whether you are referring to the sleep schedule or the sex technique.
can't making a relationship last longer than 2 weeks, since 1984 :thumbs:
shmay
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-17 01:59:26
May 17 2008 01:21 GMT
#15
sleep schedule. didn't even know there was a sex technique. though I'm going to assume that was what you are referring to.
Polyphasic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States841 Posts
May 17 2008 01:32 GMT
#16
the sleep schedule where you sleep 20ish minutes every 4 hours is only for a few weeks at a time, but over the long run, is unsustainable as far as legit research goes (by stampi who invented the technique).

there is a biphasic sleep schedule whereby you sleep 4 hours at night and 2 hours in the afternoon around 2ish. A lot of people are actually having success with this, as opposed to polyphasic.

Stampi who invented polyphasic uses a biphasic sleep schedule where he sleeps 6 hours a night, and 20 minutes in the afternoon. he is adamant that 6:30 hours a day is roughly the least amount of sleep that a person can get in a long term sustainable sort of way, without compromising lucidity. the full blown polyphasic sleep schedule is only for a few weeks at a time, and mental ability suffers immensely.

the sex technique refers to multiple orgasms. guys can do it, but girls of course get the main benefit cause they have so many more sensitive spots than the guy does. their clitorus is anatomically analogous to the male penis, so when they have a clitorus orgasm once, the clitorus becomes very very sensitive, and they can't orgasm for awhile. on the other had, there are such things as g-spot orgasms, deep spot orgasms, full body orgasms, hypnosis induced orgasms, etc etc, all of which do not involve the clitorus, and thus, can be repeated many many times a night, with each successive come being more powerful than the last. literally she will be so shaking on teh bed like a consulsing beaver with an acorn up its ass. just avoid the clitorus.

i'd say that 90% of girls dump their boyfriends or at least are willing to move to another guy, because of being sexually unsatistfied. 75% of women have faked orgasms. something like 95% of women have never had anything besides a clitoral orgasm, and they don't even know that multiple orgasms even exist. suffice to say, when you introduce them to these things, it is a surefire way to hook a girl after the first night. clitorus orgasms release the least amount of dopamine (was it dopamine?) compared to others too. it's something in the range of 1/5 or something.
can't making a relationship last longer than 2 weeks, since 1984 :thumbs:
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
May 17 2008 01:35 GMT
#17
On May 17 2008 10:03 Falcynn wrote:
Also just don't end up like this guy
http://www.tuckermax.com/archives/entries/tucker_tries_buttsex_hilarity_does_not_ensue.phtml


roflroflrofl
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ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
May 17 2008 03:13 GMT
#18
lol this blog is funny
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
May 17 2008 03:24 GMT
#19
On May 17 2008 10:35 paper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2008 10:03 Falcynn wrote:
Also just don't end up like this guy
http://www.tuckermax.com/archives/entries/tucker_tries_buttsex_hilarity_does_not_ensue.phtml


roflroflrofl


omfg... that sounds like the most disgusting thing ever.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Physician *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4146 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-17 04:37:58
May 17 2008 04:36 GMT
#20
On May 17 2008 10:12 Polyphasic wrote:
who says i need their consent if i'm just posting this online for free and not making money?


ur a douchebag; I hope u get aids
(that is if u really had intentions of doing what u just posted and are not just phuking around in ur thread, double pun intended)
"I have beheld the births of negative-suns and borne witness to the entropy of entire realities...."
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20158 Posts
May 17 2008 04:39 GMT
#21
On May 17 2008 10:32 Polyphasic wrote:
the sleep schedule where you sleep 20ish minutes every 4 hours is only for a few weeks at a time, but over the long run, is unsustainable as far as legit research goes (by stampi who invented the technique).

there is a biphasic sleep schedule whereby you sleep 4 hours at night and 2 hours in the afternoon around 2ish. A lot of people are actually having success with this, as opposed to polyphasic.



I'm kind of doing this by accident. i usually stay up till around 2am, wake up around 6:30, and then crash for 2 hours when i get home from school. Works pretty well i s'pose.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
May 17 2008 04:45 GMT
#22
On May 17 2008 13:36 Physician wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2008 10:12 Polyphasic wrote:
who says i need their consent if i'm just posting this online for free and not making money?


ur a douchebag; I hope u get aids
(that is if u really had intentions of doing what u just posted and are not just phuking around in ur thread, double pun intended)

I have to agree with Physician. Some people don't want images of themselves having sex put on the internet. It's embarassing and an invasion of privacy. On a personal level, I have to ask what kind of fucking sociopath thinks it's ok to do something like this? I earnestly find you disgusting.
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
pubbanana
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3063 Posts
May 17 2008 05:02 GMT
#23
You are sincerely awful.
Wachet, stehet im Glauben, seid männlich und seid stark.
H
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
New Zealand6138 Posts
May 17 2008 05:06 GMT
#24
It's a troll. Have you not seen his previous posts?
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24769 Posts
May 17 2008 05:50 GMT
#25
Probably. Not to mention hoping he gets aids is bad since he'll just start passing it on...
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kyjori
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
371 Posts
May 17 2008 17:27 GMT
#26
i hope you get your beer goggles on and fuck some horrendously fat ugly chick andd forever be scarred by u video recording of her -_-;
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
May 17 2008 20:54 GMT
#27
On May 17 2008 10:35 paper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2008 10:03 Falcynn wrote:
Also just don't end up like this guy
http://www.tuckermax.com/archives/entries/tucker_tries_buttsex_hilarity_does_not_ensue.phtml


roflroflrofl


HAHAHAHHAHAHA
AHAHAHHA


AHHAHAHA
HAHAHHA


HAHAHAH
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HAHAHHA


HAHAHAHAHHJAJAAHAAHA
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-18 09:13:50
May 18 2008 09:13 GMT
#28
I kind of want to ban you for even posting this here. People here have been for much less.

You're disgusting for wanting to do this. Completely and utterly selfish.
RavenWrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Germany174 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-18 14:45:32
May 18 2008 14:42 GMT
#29
oh will you leave him alone guys? He isnt in control obviously. It's a slow and probably small worm which maybe is in danger to be outmicroed by lot-mika's dog anyway.

And btw:

There's a hook concerning the orgasms he's talking about.
Only about 10% of all women are able to get this far because of psychological and or physical reasons.
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Polyphasic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States841 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-18 15:02:25
May 18 2008 14:56 GMT
#30
I enjoy pleasing women. there's nothing wrong with that.

On May 17 2008 09:55 Falcynn wrote:
http://www.spygear4u.com/proddetail.asp?prod=KB-C6000
best I could find, good luck!

Also your title is misleading, you're not planning to sell these are you? Unless you get the consent of these girls you can't sell these. On the off chance you didn't realize, all the bangbro and any voyeur videos being sold (free ones are probably real) are actually staged and they have to get everyone to sign contracts first.


Shit are you serious!!?!?!? !@#$ dangit, and I was thinking for a long time why they weren't put in jail already or something already. all of them seem pretty real. can you substantiate your claim? i mean, if bang bros can do it, i can too... but if they have it all staged, then I'm going to steer clear. i want to be in the reality porn business, not be a director or go to jail.

On May 18 2008 23:42 RavenWrath wrote:
There's a hook concerning the orgasms he's talking about.
Only about 10% of all women are able to get this far because of psychological and or physical reasons.


i don't believe you =P source please.
can't making a relationship last longer than 2 weeks, since 1984 :thumbs:
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
May 18 2008 15:06 GMT
#31
On May 17 2008 13:36 Physician wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2008 10:12 Polyphasic wrote:
who says i need their consent if i'm just posting this online for free and not making money?


ur a douchebag; I hope u get aids
(that is if u really had intentions of doing what u just posted and are not just phuking around in ur thread, double pun intended)

you recommend someone who apparently has lots of sex get aids? what medical school did you go to?
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RavenWrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Germany174 Posts
May 18 2008 15:20 GMT
#32
Well as i searched the internet for the last 15 mins the numbers seem to differ from 20% - 0% of women who can have a vaginal orgasm. The percentage never exceeds 20 though.
Most of the sites state that the anatomy of the women able to get a vaginal orgasm is build in a way so that penetration stimulizes their clitoris from the inside.

Here are some sites I found within the last 15 mins:

http://www.radicalleft.net/blog/_archives/2008/4/15/3637821.html

http://www.responsesource.com/releases/rel_display.php?relid=37126&hilite=

http://www.uic.edu/orgs/cwluherstory/CWLUArchive/vaginalmyth.html

The original source of my 10% information is a book in german. So I dont think it wont be of any help quoting from there
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
May 18 2008 15:37 GMT
#33
I am disappointed that this blog has gone to page 2 without anyone asking for pix of one of nines.

Fucking dissapointed.
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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
May 18 2008 15:49 GMT
#34
On May 19 2008 00:06 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2008 13:36 Physician wrote:
On May 17 2008 10:12 Polyphasic wrote:
who says i need their consent if i'm just posting this online for free and not making money?


ur a douchebag; I hope u get aids
(that is if u really had intentions of doing what u just posted and are not just phuking around in ur thread, double pun intended)

you recommend someone who apparently has lots of sex get aids? what medical school did you go to?

I seriously doubt that he was considering the consequences of it rather than that AIDS would be quite an ironic fate to befall this man.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-18 16:24:04
May 18 2008 16:10 GMT
#35
On May 18 2008 23:56 Polyphasic wrote:
I enjoy pleasing women. there's nothing wrong with that.

Show nested quote +
On May 17 2008 09:55 Falcynn wrote:
http://www.spygear4u.com/proddetail.asp?prod=KB-C6000
best I could find, good luck!

Also your title is misleading, you're not planning to sell these are you? Unless you get the consent of these girls you can't sell these. On the off chance you didn't realize, all the bangbro and any voyeur videos being sold (free ones are probably real) are actually staged and they have to get everyone to sign contracts first.


Shit are you serious!!?!?!? !@#$ dangit, and I was thinking for a long time why they weren't put in jail already or something already. all of them seem pretty real. can you substantiate your claim? i mean, if bang bros can do it, i can too... but if they have it all staged, then I'm going to steer clear. i want to be in the reality porn business, not be a director or go to jail.
Dude...do you ever read a whole post before responding or just bits and pieces? You've responded to that post like 3 times now. Anyways I thought it was common knowledge, but in case you need proof, here you go http://help.bangbrosonline.com/2257.php (the site is nsfw, but that one page is safe)

Edit: whoops wrong page, I'm sure there's somewhere else they have that info. However that page at least proves they have to have some way of making sure all their performers are over 18, which means they have to do background checks like all other porn businesses. Because just checking their drivers license probably isn't enough considering the fact anyone could have a fake ID.
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
May 18 2008 17:07 GMT
#36
It has nothing to do with pleasing women. It has to do with filming them having sex without permission. You're a scumbag. Go die in a fire.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-18 17:35:37
May 18 2008 17:31 GMT
#37
On May 19 2008 00:49 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2008 00:06 IdrA wrote:
On May 17 2008 13:36 Physician wrote:
On May 17 2008 10:12 Polyphasic wrote:
who says i need their consent if i'm just posting this online for free and not making money?


ur a douchebag; I hope u get aids
(that is if u really had intentions of doing what u just posted and are not just phuking around in ur thread, double pun intended)

you recommend someone who apparently has lots of sex get aids? what medical school did you go to?

I seriously doubt that he was considering the consequences of it rather than that AIDS would be quite an ironic fate to befall this man.

How about leprosy of the penis then?

I think the OP is just kidding, but if not then he is a douche bag/idiot.

And yes, they are staged. He has to be kidding, because no one is stupid enough to believe they're real after watching them.
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
May 18 2008 17:40 GMT
#38
On a different but related note, I wonder how much money those 12093812042398723410928312308 generic pr0n gallery sites make, since they're basically all identical. Then again they need nearly no hosting at all by themselves b/c they're all just hotlinks to other sites, probably get some kind of revenue from pay-pr0n-sites that they link into, and increase traffic by sending the horny 'uns from one similar site to the next...

hm.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-18 17:48:04
May 18 2008 17:43 GMT
#39
I'm sure they make tons of money. It's still amazing to me that the big porn companies like Vivid make TONS of money, when there's so much better stuff for free. I've never heard of anyone under the age of 30 paying for porn.

EDIT: Also, I gotta post this cause it's my favorite porn ad of all time. Meet Local Girls Near You! They almost had me convinced!
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
May 18 2008 17:49 GMT
#40
hahahahhahah what the fucking hell.

Honestly what is stopping anyone from making yet another one of these 098230948234029834 pron sites then? I guess... you'd need to somehow establish contacts with the pay pr0n sites to give you some $$ per hit to their site... and maybe place some xxx generic ads, etcetc.

MM, I guess it's annoying to find the cash routes, even if setting up the xxx part is easy.
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
May 18 2008 18:42 GMT
#41
I want to know how youtube makes money....basically they give out tons of free bandwidth, with basically no/very little advertising. They are like in the top 3 sites in terms of number of hits, and most of those hits involve downloading a video.

Oh, and polyphasic...if you post videos of girls without their permission then I hope it eventually comes back to you in some way.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-05-18 18:46:25
May 18 2008 18:45 GMT
#42
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Even with very little advertising, it's still an extremely hot destination because of their massive traffic.
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Michaelj
Profile Joined February 2008
United States186 Posts
May 18 2008 18:49 GMT
#43
On May 19 2008 03:42 fight_or_flight wrote:
I want to know how youtube makes money....basically they give out tons of free bandwidth, with basically no/very little advertising. They are like in the top 3 sites in terms of number of hits, and most of those hits involve downloading a video.

Oh, and polyphasic...if you post videos of girls without their permission then I hope it eventually comes back to you in some way.


Google owns it... even if youtube is losing a lot of money right now, Google has the bank to put up with it until they can figure out how to make money with it
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Polyphasic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States841 Posts
May 18 2008 20:17 GMT
#44
On May 19 2008 02:43 Jibba wrote:
I'm sure they make tons of money. It's still amazing to me that the big porn companies like Vivid make TONS of money, when there's so much better stuff for free. I've never heard of anyone under the age of 30 paying for porn.

EDIT: Also, I gotta post this cause it's my favorite porn ad of all time. Meet Local Girls Near You! They almost had me convinced!


oh great, you're right. i guess i'll have to pay the girls and let them know ahead of time that i want to stage it... which defeats the whole purpose. bologney.
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