On May 07 2008 07:53 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I don't understand the Tool hype, they don't seem overly special from what I've heard of theirs. Can anyone recommend me a Tool song that showcases what they're about?
Just kidding. Some of their more popular songs are Sober, Prison Sex, Aenima, Lateralus, and Schism. Personally, I like some of Tool's stuff, but they put out a lot of crap too.
On May 07 2008 07:53 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I don't understand the Tool hype, they don't seem overly special from what I've heard of theirs. Can anyone recommend me a Tool song that showcases what they're about?
It's a stupid video, but all the others on youtube are live performances. Forty-Six & 2 is the song that made me like Tool.
Although it angers and saddens me that people give Opeth albums such great praise and never mention Orchid or Morningrise, I defend your right to have wrong opinions.
On May 07 2008 05:54 Kaotu wrote: if i made a list of songs, i would include PoS "King of Loss"
however, this is a list of albums, so pain of salvation does not belong here. actually i like them but i despise them for making a band so good with a name so bad. "Pain of Salvation" sounds way too "epic" for a band as artistic as they are...
On May 07 2008 06:31 HamerD wrote: Omg kaotu I really find your 'if you don't like this you don't understand it/ have a good taste in music' approach annoying. So fucking ignorant.
Good albums but you have a REALLY blinkered sense of music so i wouldn't be so bloody preachy.
I also hope you aren't one of these complete idiots who think prog music requires more creativity and musicality than other genres.
It should be obvious from most of what I said on that list that I was only half serious in my ramblings. I mean I do really enjoy all of the albums that I posted, don't get me wrong. But I certainly don't think so highly of my musical taste that I think everyone should dig all or even any of that stuff (except Jeff Buckley; I have no respect for anyone who has no respect for Jeff, period).
And on that note, 6/10 albums were prog to some degree or another, sure, but there's also AEROSMITH, buckley, soundgarden, and temple of the dog - not prog by any definition that I am aware of.
You'll also notice that of those albums, I gave the most flattering praise to Grace. Most certainly not a prog album.
In short, I appreciate your assault on all things musically pretentious. But I was not trying to express anything of that sort seriously, only as a rhetorical vehicle. But I do apologize if I gave the impression of being serious. The fact that I included an Aerosmith album on this list, however, should clue anyone in that I'm not actually that pretentious.
But if you're going to assault anyone for their pretention, it should be indie kids, not the proggers. They're the worst.
On May 07 2008 09:01 Ancestral wrote: Although it angers and saddens me that people give Opeth albums such great praise and never mention Orchid or Morningrise, I defend your right to have wrong opinions.
If tracks 1-6 on Morningrise were all The Night and the Silent Water, then it would be the only album on my list. Unfortunately, there are other songs on that album too, including that one "epic" track which is basically 50 minutes or so of sequenced random riffs, whatever the first thing that came to Opeth's head during recording was.
Orchid would make the list if the whole album were that one really evil sounding part on the first track... you know, that part somewhere around 11 minutes I think in (could be way off actually) where there's that really slow gothic sound riff, followed by a sudden thumping bass (sounds like he's just hitting the low e over and over or something)... Point is, if Orchid was just that riff for 50 minutes, I would listen to it all the time. As it is, I think I have only sat through that whole album 1 time. Maybe I should give it another listen. My first impression was that it's too... hit and miss, in the sense that you have a nice line of music for about 10 seconds, followed by 10 seconds of incoherence, through each and every song.
Oh, and speaking of how pretentious indie kids are...
One of my roommates blares like 3 albums night and day, (I think) Stars, Flaming Lips, and Devotchka... Anyway, he thinks he has really refined music taste (3-4 albums all the time, that's it).
Me and my other 2 roommates had an awesome goal, to listen to an entire album non stop for the entire semester. It was to be on repeat in our apartment for the entire duration of the semester. The album? Bruce Springsteen: Born in the USA, absolute masterpiece...
None of us are actually bruce fans, we just knew it was an awesome idea and really enjoyed it during the duration. But one day, my pretentious roommate with "refined taste" just came in and turned off The Boss because he is too "musically sensitive"!!!!
I actually like the unrefined "chaotic" sound of those two albums. I do like newer stuff from them too, but the old stuff is exploratory, and has a lot more old school "European" sounding riffs.
The bands I like are generally more like this sound, but I like the more produced and progressive sound as well. It's just those albums never get any love. The fact that you've heard them though is good, most people who praise Opeth endlessly haven't.
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