• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:29
CET 17:29
KST 01:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1812Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises1Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
What monitor do you use for playing Remastered? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/ What are former legends up to these days? BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 12 Days of Starcraft Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Saturation point
Uldridge
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1240 users

What pisses me off.

Blogs > gwho
Post a Reply
gwho
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States632 Posts
February 24 2008 01:20 GMT
#1
When i want to know more information on something, i want to know the information. not some patent, not cleverly hidden sales pitches disguised as an expose article, not all of the statistics, while no exact mechanisms.

This usual superficial jibberish that witholds real information is most commonplace in networks and outlets with the greatest number of readers. (ironically... or is it intentionally?)

for instance, my breathing problem has gotten worse, so i i wanted to look up if chlorine was bad for you, and HOW it was bad for you - the mechanisms, the reactions. so i find this little article. it was great, it claimed to link asthma to chlorine exposure. great so i take a look. and this is the superficial crap that i see.
http://www.asthma.ca/bulletins/State_of_the_Asthma_Nation_Apr2007_English.pdf

i use this chlorine example as a case in point. Goals articles such as these (esp in "health" magazines) accomplish
1) doesn't explain any real knowledge about the mechanisms of the problem as well. do they assume we're idiots and no one but their priesthood will understand the chemistry? undoubtedly there are some who can't, in fact many. but to never explain at all? what measure do we the have, if those physicians/writers don't explain the mechanisms, of whether they are doing something right or wrong, whether the treatment is toxic and can cause other problems fro mthe chemical exposure? Articles such as these keep people in the dark about the cure.
2) There are plenty of products and patents on the article. Great sales pitch. they start off with the titel of being osme sort of eye catching expose/discovery/rediscovery, mainly accomplished by preying on the fear and pain of one suffering. every "solution" is ExCELLerate (tm) hydroxycut (tm). i don't wnat to know the name of your product. i don't even know what the fuck is in it. therefore i want information that seeks to spread itself, not "information" with the sale of your product in mind. i want to knwo the active component, and all the components in it. take your hydroxyshit and choke on it while you sip your martini.
3) prestige. doctors pictures, accolades, honors. and in this case all the doctor talked about was communication. if i could communicate my way out of asthma or a cold we might as well have "communication" as a treatment for aids. this article mentions that "many people often don't know how to use their medication properly" well shit, you're going to solve a whole lot aren't you? thats a substandard problem. it may very well be prevalent, but if it is used correctly. we already have a cure don't we?


This is the type of article that i, and im sure many others suffering from problems want to see.
http://www.biophysica.com/Fatigue.html

this one's on fatigue. first addresses the holistic components, but as you scroll down, there is a section in smaller print explaining more or less a "root" cause, or atleast a precise mechanism.

all about ATP, rate limiting factors the whole deal. now not everyone may know what malic acid is, and really know where it fits in either. but comon, do most doctors think we're that hopelessly idiotic not to tell us? there are chemical names out that peopel use all the time.


Thats my blog about information, and how money seekers withold, block, and pervert it with their superficial "analysis", product patents and self- accolade awarding.
If you think my writing is biased, hating, intolerant, has an air of annoyance, well that's because it is, and does.



**
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
February 24 2008 01:40 GMT
#2
fucking cell phone salesmen

they're the lowest of the low
posting on liquid sites in current year
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-24 01:49:33
February 24 2008 01:47 GMT
#3
Look at your sources. One is an advocacy group and the other is trying to peddle garbage. Both are poor sources for information.

Unfortunately there's a lot of bullshit out there when it comes to medical questions, and part of the reason to blame is because idiots buy into it. I suggest you add "nih" or "mayo" to any searches you do, or stick to real news sources/universities/etc.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/chronic-fatigue-syndrome/DS00395/DSECTION=3
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
February 24 2008 02:56 GMT
#4
Thats why google is so rich, because they help people find what they are looking for. They may not be very good at it yet (with areas such as this), but you can see how important knowledge is, and finding it.

Thats why it seems like the best source of information on the internet is forums. When you find a group of people who have an interest in a specific topic, you've found a way to find knowledge. Your first goal should be to find those people who can tell you where to look.

Remember, knowing what your problem is in the first place most of the work.
Do you really want chat rooms?
naventus
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States1337 Posts
February 24 2008 03:35 GMT
#5
You should use Google Scholar to find scientific journals that talk about the issues.

I looked at the fatigue link and it's basically trash. It makes two points:

1. A rough overview on ATP synthesis/mechanism (you can read this in a high school bio book)
2. Hand-waving on how missing components might impact ATP production.

I hope you can imagine how incomplete this analysis is. The problems with consulting a proper peer-reviewed scientific article though are: it may be dense and difficult, and more narrow on a specific topic without background.
hmm.
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
February 24 2008 07:02 GMT
#6
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatigue_(medical)

It's like magic!
But why?
gwho
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States632 Posts
February 25 2008 17:54 GMT
#7
On February 24 2008 10:40 SpiritoftheTuna wrote:
fucking cell phone salesmen

they're the lowest of the low


oh i know. it's always like "you've won something"
then u ask, is this sales?

"nono it's not sales, now your credit card number please"

and why are they always indian????
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
12:00
Mid Season Playoffs
MaxPax vs ByuNLIVE!
Solar vs TBD
WardiTV1507
IndyStarCraft 242
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko531
IndyStarCraft 242
Livibee 85
SC2Nice 50
MindelVK 26
RushiSC 18
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 53714
Shuttle 679
ggaemo 620
Mini 431
Barracks 261
firebathero 217
PianO 115
Mong 73
Aegong 58
Snow 56
[ Show more ]
soO 41
Sexy 36
Movie 26
Sacsri 21
scan(afreeca) 20
ajuk12(nOOB) 17
Bale 12
yabsab 12
Shine 10
eros_byul 0
Dota 2
qojqva3330
syndereN594
XcaliburYe189
League of Legends
C9.Mang0434
Counter-Strike
chrisJcsgo89
adren_tv2
Other Games
Grubby4579
singsing1891
FrodaN431
Hui .322
hiko313
ceh9187
QueenE80
KnowMe44
Trikslyr35
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• naamasc212
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• Ler92
League of Legends
• Nemesis3141
• Jankos1931
Other Games
• WagamamaTV224
Upcoming Events
OSC
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
OSC
3 days
IPSL
3 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
4 days
OSC
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Patches Events
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-12-29
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.