• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:45
CET 15:45
KST 23:45
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !3Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win3Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
Did they add GM to 2v2? Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump
Tourneys
RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1: Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [BSL21] RO8 Bracket & Prediction Contest BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO8 - Day 2 - Sunday 21:00 CET [ASL20] Grand Finals
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1790 users

Boxer's APM? - Page 2

Blogs > gwho
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
February 04 2008 23:18 GMT
#21
bisu is 375-400 average apm in his games...
Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire.
Reflex
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada703 Posts
February 04 2008 23:27 GMT
#22
On February 05 2008 08:11 SigrUn wrote:
I believe for each race, the fastest would be Nada, Bisu, and Jaedong/July.

I think this is right.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 04 2008 23:33 GMT
#23
On February 05 2008 08:27 Reflex] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2008 08:11 SigrUn wrote:
I believe for each race, the fastest would be Nada, Bisu, and Jaedong/July.

I think this is right.


Yeah, although I vaguely recall ELIZA, who retired recently, was a demonically high apm zerg?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
noobienoob
Profile Joined July 2007
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-05 00:02:54
February 04 2008 23:44 GMT
#24
Correct me if I'm wrong but, although Boxer's APM is only mediocre compared to other progamers, it's his mouse hand's speed/accuracy is what's supposed to be insane. There's a reason why he's known for his unbelievable micro.
0xDEADBEEF
Profile Joined September 2007
Germany1235 Posts
February 04 2008 23:50 GMT
#25
SigrUn is right.
Boxer never was really fast, although years ago he was among the fastest ones, but the general level of skill was of course much lower than it is today.
Boxer sometimes gets really good APM peaks, though. I remember a short, old FPVOD of him where he got 600 APM during a short time.
On average though, I think even Savior is faster than him, and Savior is already quite slow with his 250-350.
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
February 04 2008 23:59 GMT
#26
In very early replays it seems 170 was pretty much considered really fast.
The Nature and purpose of the martial way are universal; all selfish desires must be roasted in the tempering fires of hard training. - Masutatsu Oyama
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
February 05 2008 00:03 GMT
#27
In his recent osl match against Savior, Jaedong averaged around 450 and peaked at around 520. Insane.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
February 05 2008 00:16 GMT
#28
In_dove is pretty fast too
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
CaucasianAsian
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Korea (South)11586 Posts
February 05 2008 00:24 GMT
#29
Tossgirl was pushing around 400 as well
Calendar@ Fish Server: `iOps]..Stark
gwho
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States632 Posts
February 05 2008 00:44 GMT
#30
what source do you guys get your numbers from? it would be helpful if personal stats included apm...
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
February 05 2008 00:45 GMT
#31
On February 05 2008 09:44 gwho wrote:
what source do you guys get your numbers from? it would be helpful if personal stats included apm...


Mostly post game analysis + replays :p
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
StripedBlueCrow
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States506 Posts
February 05 2008 01:33 GMT
#32
You guys are forgetting about Xellos... he's one of the fastest EVAR.
Ransom notes keep falling out your mouth.
CapO
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1615 Posts
February 05 2008 03:19 GMT
#33
G.s)Kyo was like the fastest i think lol

also xellos is fast as well.
SNSD fan
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
February 05 2008 04:04 GMT
#34
Wasn't there a July game where he average 414 and peaked 812?

Also, like others have said, Boxer is a lower APM player.
Peace~
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
February 05 2008 05:23 GMT
#35
wtf 812?! O_O
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
February 05 2008 05:46 GMT
#36
Man, fuck apm
I will eat you alive
Texas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Germany2388 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-05 14:21:34
February 05 2008 14:09 GMT
#37
On February 05 2008 08:44 noobienoob wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong but, although Boxer's APM is only mediocre compared to other progamers, it's his mouse hand's speed/accuracy is what's supposed to be insane. There's a reason why he's known for his unbelievable micro.


^ is right. he has very, very fast mouse speed, other terrans have higher apm due to hotkey selection.

pro_nt.junitoss used to be quite fast as well iirc
ATeddyBear
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Canada2843 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-05 14:53:39
February 05 2008 14:52 GMT
#38
On February 05 2008 13:04 fanatacist wrote:
Wasn't there a July game where he average 414 and peaked 812?

Also, like others have said, Boxer is a lower APM player.

vs Hwooasin on fantasy
http://teamliquid.net/tlpd/games/7975_Hwasin_vs_July/vod
Professional twice over - an analyst and a therapist. The world’s first analrapist.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
February 05 2008 15:10 GMT
#39
On February 05 2008 14:23 zoLo wrote:
wtf 812?! O_O

Yea there is a video of the end-game stats on Youtube after a match where his peak is 812, you can try to find it.
Peace~
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
February 05 2008 15:11 GMT
#40
On February 05 2008 09:44 gwho wrote:
what source do you guys get your numbers from? it would be helpful if personal stats included apm...

It'd be pretty useless in my opinion because APM doesn't matter that much, it's how effective you use the non-spam actions.
Peace~
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV 2025
13:00
Playoffs
Solar vs CureLIVE!
herO vs Spirit
Scarlett vs Gerald
Rogue vs Shameless
MaNa vs ShoWTimE
Nice vs Creator
WardiTV1410
ComeBackTV 663
TaKeTV 323
IndyStarCraft 187
Rex139
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko440
IndyStarCraft 187
Rex 139
ProTech15
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 36440
Sea 4059
Horang2 1194
Larva 1062
EffOrt 966
Soma 661
Mini 532
GuemChi 519
ZerO 469
Stork 345
[ Show more ]
Snow 302
firebathero 280
Sharp 206
BeSt 170
hero 169
PianO 166
Rush 157
Hyun 92
JYJ 69
Light 65
Killer 60
Pusan 54
sorry 44
Mind 42
Mong 42
Aegong 29
Movie 26
soO 21
scan(afreeca) 16
Terrorterran 13
Shine 9
Dota 2
Gorgc4919
singsing4462
qojqva2927
Dendi1048
syndereN229
XcaliburYe156
League of Legends
C9.Mang0320
rGuardiaN112
Counter-Strike
byalli919
allub207
markeloff40
Other Games
B2W.Neo1433
Beastyqt649
crisheroes360
Hui .310
oskar106
mouzStarbuck77
QueenE76
Livibee64
Mew2King60
Trikslyr28
ZerO(Twitch)17
nookyyy 12
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 6
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV552
League of Legends
• Nemesis2273
Upcoming Events
WardiTV 2025
20h 15m
ByuN vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
OSC
23h 15m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 19h
WardiTV 2025
1d 20h
SC Evo League
1d 21h
Ladder Legends
2 days
BSL 21
2 days
Sziky vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs Cross
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Ladder Legends
3 days
BSL 21
3 days
StRyKeR vs TBD
Bonyth vs TBD
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.