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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
August 16 2019 08:00 GMT
#1
I am in need of a new gaming PC, living in germany.

I used to build them together with help from others on hardwareversandt.de, already built together cuz i'm a hardware noob and lazy, but the site doesn't exist anymore.

Prize range is preferably ~1000€ - 1200€, MAX 1500€
Has to include a 144hz monitor, not too huge though.
Has to have SSD for games like sc2, dota2 and poe + operating system
Has to include windows.

I need it completly built together already.

plz help

*
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-16 10:04:08
August 16 2019 10:03 GMT
#2
Heya friend,

Check this thread:
https://tl.net/forum/tech-support/426532-computer-build-upgrade-and-buying-resource-thread

Be sure to check OP (I mistake and not do this my first time, redid post they super helpful!) With their suggestion I recycle some old parts (excess RAM/ re-use power supply/ put new SSD for OS but kept other 2tb on old drive) It was recommend just shy of my budget and I save several hundred dollars after budgeting out what I didn't need.

I only build a mid tower PC because I don't do heavy gaming (mostly play really old rpg/arpg/ rts [when net ok]) They can definitely help you !
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
August 16 2019 10:40 GMT
#3
It sounds like he wants to buy a prebuilt PC, rather than build one himself.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
August 16 2019 11:43 GMT
#4
exactly. prebuild, or someone builds it for me on a site that puts it together for some $ and delivers to germany
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
BlueStar
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Bulgaria1166 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-16 12:18:35
August 16 2019 12:16 GMT
#5
On August 16 2019 20:43 KalWarkov wrote:
exactly. prebuild, or someone builds it for me on a site that puts it together for some $ and delivers to germany


Just want to chime in - if you dedicate about one hour watching youtube videos and get a screwdriver - you can build a pc configuration real easy.

You don't need any real expertise to do it on your own.

I can recommend you to check this site - https://pcpartpicker.com/
There you can find recommended configurations, tons of information and you can check if the parts you may be looking for are compatible with the rest of your system.

Best of luck!

P.S. sorry for not answering directly to your question but I'd never ever recommend a prebuilt configuration, even to my worst enemy
Leader of the Bulgarian National SCBW/SC2 team and team pSi.SCBW/SC2
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
August 16 2019 13:37 GMT
#6
On August 16 2019 21:16 BlueStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2019 20:43 KalWarkov wrote:
exactly. prebuild, or someone builds it for me on a site that puts it together for some $ and delivers to germany


Just want to chime in - if you dedicate about one hour watching youtube videos and get a screwdriver - you can build a pc configuration real easy.

You don't need any real expertise to do it on your own.

I can recommend you to check this site - https://pcpartpicker.com/
There you can find recommended configurations, tons of information and you can check if the parts you may be looking for are compatible with the rest of your system.

Best of luck!

P.S. sorry for not answering directly to your question but I'd never ever recommend a prebuilt configuration, even to my worst enemy


ye i didn't really mean prebuilt, that was wrong wording by me
i meant a site where u can choose parts and they built it into a case for you for some extra money. there used to be something like that in gemrany for 20$ but the site doesn't exist anymore :/
pretty sure i could build it together myself, but i'm the most lazy person on earth
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
August 16 2019 14:08 GMT
#7
This is around the top of your range but this is what I slapped together in 5 minutes. You can downgrade some parts if you want, choose a case you like. If you can find a way to have it built from a parts list you'd definitely get a lot more value than by buying a prebuilt. Anyway just an idea

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/wnyZnH

"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
August 16 2019 14:12 GMT
#8
On August 16 2019 22:37 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2019 21:16 BlueStar wrote:
On August 16 2019 20:43 KalWarkov wrote:
exactly. prebuild, or someone builds it for me on a site that puts it together for some $ and delivers to germany


Just want to chime in - if you dedicate about one hour watching youtube videos and get a screwdriver - you can build a pc configuration real easy.

You don't need any real expertise to do it on your own.

I can recommend you to check this site - https://pcpartpicker.com/
There you can find recommended configurations, tons of information and you can check if the parts you may be looking for are compatible with the rest of your system.

Best of luck!

P.S. sorry for not answering directly to your question but I'd never ever recommend a prebuilt configuration, even to my worst enemy


ye i didn't really mean prebuilt, that was wrong wording by me
i meant a site where u can choose parts and they built it into a case for you for some extra money. there used to be something like that in gemrany for 20$ but the site doesn't exist anymore :/
pretty sure i could build it together myself, but i'm the most lazy person on earth

That is prebuilt.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-16 16:34:13
August 16 2019 16:34 GMT
#9
Maybe mifcom website ? They used to sponsor homestory cup also and it's german. Dunno if they make good pc but check it out
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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
August 18 2019 11:24 GMT
#10
computerbase has really good recommendations
https://www.computerbase.de/forum/threads/der-ideale-gaming-pc-spiele-pc-selbst-zusammenstellen.215394/
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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
August 19 2019 23:24 GMT
#11
On August 16 2019 23:12 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2019 22:37 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 16 2019 21:16 BlueStar wrote:
On August 16 2019 20:43 KalWarkov wrote:
exactly. prebuild, or someone builds it for me on a site that puts it together for some $ and delivers to germany


Just want to chime in - if you dedicate about one hour watching youtube videos and get a screwdriver - you can build a pc configuration real easy.

You don't need any real expertise to do it on your own.

I can recommend you to check this site - https://pcpartpicker.com/
There you can find recommended configurations, tons of information and you can check if the parts you may be looking for are compatible with the rest of your system.

Best of luck!

P.S. sorry for not answering directly to your question but I'd never ever recommend a prebuilt configuration, even to my worst enemy


ye i didn't really mean prebuilt, that was wrong wording by me
i meant a site where u can choose parts and they built it into a case for you for some extra money. there used to be something like that in gemrany for 20$ but the site doesn't exist anymore :/
pretty sure i could build it together myself, but i'm the most lazy person on earth

That is prebuilt.



no. on hardwareversandt.de, you could choose any parts you wanted for cheap and for 20$ extra they'd put the parts together for you and send it to you, no work, easy and cheap. shit doesn't exist no more
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
_fool
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands676 Posts
August 20 2019 13:12 GMT
#12
If you're close to the Dutch border, check out Azerty.nl. They have been a well known PC components web shop for years, and they have an assembly service which they promote on their front page

https://azerty.nl/category/componenten/Assemblage_Service
"News is to the mind what sugar is to the body"
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
August 20 2019 17:55 GMT
#13
On August 20 2019 08:24 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2019 23:12 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On August 16 2019 22:37 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 16 2019 21:16 BlueStar wrote:
On August 16 2019 20:43 KalWarkov wrote:
exactly. prebuild, or someone builds it for me on a site that puts it together for some $ and delivers to germany


Just want to chime in - if you dedicate about one hour watching youtube videos and get a screwdriver - you can build a pc configuration real easy.

You don't need any real expertise to do it on your own.

I can recommend you to check this site - https://pcpartpicker.com/
There you can find recommended configurations, tons of information and you can check if the parts you may be looking for are compatible with the rest of your system.

Best of luck!

P.S. sorry for not answering directly to your question but I'd never ever recommend a prebuilt configuration, even to my worst enemy


ye i didn't really mean prebuilt, that was wrong wording by me
i meant a site where u can choose parts and they built it into a case for you for some extra money. there used to be something like that in gemrany for 20$ but the site doesn't exist anymore :/
pretty sure i could build it together myself, but i'm the most lazy person on earth

That is prebuilt.



no. on hardwareversandt.de, you could choose any parts you wanted for cheap and for 20$ extra they'd put the parts together for you and send it to you, no work, easy and cheap. shit doesn't exist no more
This is called prebuilt.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
August 20 2019 18:11 GMT
#14
On August 21 2019 02:55 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2019 08:24 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 16 2019 23:12 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On August 16 2019 22:37 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 16 2019 21:16 BlueStar wrote:
On August 16 2019 20:43 KalWarkov wrote:
exactly. prebuild, or someone builds it for me on a site that puts it together for some $ and delivers to germany


Just want to chime in - if you dedicate about one hour watching youtube videos and get a screwdriver - you can build a pc configuration real easy.

You don't need any real expertise to do it on your own.

I can recommend you to check this site - https://pcpartpicker.com/
There you can find recommended configurations, tons of information and you can check if the parts you may be looking for are compatible with the rest of your system.

Best of luck!

P.S. sorry for not answering directly to your question but I'd never ever recommend a prebuilt configuration, even to my worst enemy


ye i didn't really mean prebuilt, that was wrong wording by me
i meant a site where u can choose parts and they built it into a case for you for some extra money. there used to be something like that in gemrany for 20$ but the site doesn't exist anymore :/
pretty sure i could build it together myself, but i'm the most lazy person on earth

That is prebuilt.



no. on hardwareversandt.de, you could choose any parts you wanted for cheap and for 20$ extra they'd put the parts together for you and send it to you, no work, easy and cheap. shit doesn't exist no more
This is called prebuilt.



oh i see. i wonder how it's prebuilt when i decide what parts get into it. Not like a buy a pc they put together beforehand randomly. interesting.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
August 20 2019 21:45 GMT
#15
On August 21 2019 03:11 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 02:55 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On August 20 2019 08:24 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 16 2019 23:12 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On August 16 2019 22:37 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 16 2019 21:16 BlueStar wrote:
On August 16 2019 20:43 KalWarkov wrote:
exactly. prebuild, or someone builds it for me on a site that puts it together for some $ and delivers to germany


Just want to chime in - if you dedicate about one hour watching youtube videos and get a screwdriver - you can build a pc configuration real easy.

You don't need any real expertise to do it on your own.

I can recommend you to check this site - https://pcpartpicker.com/
There you can find recommended configurations, tons of information and you can check if the parts you may be looking for are compatible with the rest of your system.

Best of luck!

P.S. sorry for not answering directly to your question but I'd never ever recommend a prebuilt configuration, even to my worst enemy


ye i didn't really mean prebuilt, that was wrong wording by me
i meant a site where u can choose parts and they built it into a case for you for some extra money. there used to be something like that in gemrany for 20$ but the site doesn't exist anymore :/
pretty sure i could build it together myself, but i'm the most lazy person on earth

That is prebuilt.



no. on hardwareversandt.de, you could choose any parts you wanted for cheap and for 20$ extra they'd put the parts together for you and send it to you, no work, easy and cheap. shit doesn't exist no more
This is called prebuilt.



oh i see. i wonder how it's prebuilt when i decide what parts get into it. Not like a buy a pc they put together beforehand randomly. interesting.


I think he means you don't have to physically put the parts together yourself. There is ton of sites to order parts but it's basic par course that you do the assembly. If the tower itself is already together it gets the label.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12790 Posts
August 21 2019 09:36 GMT
#16
Well for me prebuilt is from manufacturers (ie. bad) whereas picking yourself the parts and let the vendor do the dirty work for some $$ is not prebuilt (ie. good). How do you differentiate prebuilt from manufacturer with a pc you chose the parts but did not build yourself?
WriterMaru
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6174 Posts
August 22 2019 13:51 GMT
#17
On August 21 2019 18:36 Poopi wrote:
Well for me prebuilt is from manufacturers (ie. bad) whereas picking yourself the parts and let the vendor do the dirty work for some $$ is not prebuilt (ie. good). How do you differentiate prebuilt from manufacturer with a pc you chose the parts but did not build yourself?

Getting the build from internet forum is pretty much the same as buying a prebuilt from manufacturer. I find it hard to believe that someone will take the time to actually optimize the build for a stranger online just for fun, but rather just pick compatible parts. It will be a build that works, but not optimized to minimize bottlenecks.

Last time it took me hours to build a pc for my needs, just to find out the possible bottlenecks and search data from performance tests. This is overkill for someone who does not even want to put the parts together by himself.

For sc2, poe and dota I'm pretty sure you dont need to spend even a 1000e. Including a monitor.
_fool
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands676 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-22 22:43:41
August 22 2019 22:43 GMT
#18
On August 22 2019 22:51 Piste wrote:
For sc2, poe and dota I'm pretty sure you dont need to spend even a 1000e. Including a monitor.


Yeah that's what I figured as well. But then again, the 144hz monitor somehow implies performance in the 100+ fps range, so I'm guessing he is putting a decent GPU in there?
"News is to the mind what sugar is to the body"
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-23 18:46:57
August 23 2019 18:46 GMT
#19
On August 22 2019 22:51 Piste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2019 18:36 Poopi wrote:
Well for me prebuilt is from manufacturers (ie. bad) whereas picking yourself the parts and let the vendor do the dirty work for some $$ is not prebuilt (ie. good). How do you differentiate prebuilt from manufacturer with a pc you chose the parts but did not build yourself?

Getting the build from internet forum is pretty much the same as buying a prebuilt from manufacturer. I find it hard to believe that someone will take the time to actually optimize the build for a stranger online just for fun, but rather just pick compatible parts. It will be a build that works, but not optimized to minimize bottlenecks.

Last time it took me hours to build a pc for my needs, just to find out the possible bottlenecks and search data from performance tests. This is overkill for someone who does not even want to put the parts together by himself.

For sc2, poe and dota I'm pretty sure you dont need to spend even a 1000e. Including a monitor.


i know, but you never know. and i don't wanan be forced to uprgrade for a couple of years.

anyway, thanks for all the replies, will build it whenever i have time left
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
bushra
Profile Joined August 2019
7 Posts
August 24 2019 10:05 GMT
#20
please suggest game on pc
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