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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-28 22:48:30
February 28 2016 22:15 GMT
#21
i dont think i can fit in lessons at the moment... i never got around to guitar lessons (let alone even practicing my guitar anywhere near enough as one needs to)

i love all styles of music except rnb (AKA radio music) from alan jackson to the offspring to floyd to magnetic fields to britney spears

but if i have to pick 1 thing in particular (which i probably should to begin with ) then i really like the style of The Cure . altho my accent isn't as strong as his , its sort of nearby so maybe its a good starting place....

i literally have 10 mins in the car to and from work to practice 5x a week and maaaybe saturday mornings or something like that ... ive been doing kareoke on friday evenings (in my room) but given how loud i was this weekend trying to get my singing to improve i doubt ill be able to get away with singing with that amount of effort (volume) if people are in the house

im moving house (to literally anywhere in the country lol) in 5 weeks or so , so its great to discover that it'd be useful to try to find somewhere that i can sing. (but really is there anywhere like that short of owning your own house or driving to some remote location in a field???? i mean i'm guessing its not normal to "hire" a recording studio for a friday evening just so you can practice singing a bit...)

thanks for the replies

to be fair i wouldn't mind just printing off some lyrics and driving to some field for a few hours with my headphones lol
whats the normal way that people practice singing? i guess they would be doing it at uni and have some empty halls or something?

will take back my mixer tomorrow and probably get Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 Usb Computer Audio Interface Mac / Pc instead..
hrm maybe i could get away with a "solo" usb interface actually since i plug my guitar in with usb (rocksmith cable)
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-28 23:25:13
February 28 2016 23:22 GMT
#22
oh this was the last clip i made (the cure)



also dis is pretty sik



gonna play that galaxie 500 album now
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pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2501 Posts
February 29 2016 02:01 GMT
#23
You have a very interesting voice (in a positive way).

Where i would start with with you, is breathing tecniques for singing. Breathing is ever so important for singing, and for air instruments, like say a flute. Or an Oboe. or a voice. WIthout breathing tecniques, you may experience:

Fatigue after few minutes of singing (due to lack of physical air to support your vocal chords)
Low control over pitches (regular breathing=regular air exaustion=easy pitch control)

When instead you learn them for singing, these things come easy after some time of practice.
Take singing lessons. why? you love singing. For me, after singing in my car for several months, i did, and i benefitted from:

Interesting facts about sound
Inspiration
challanges
the learning process

here is a long read on the human voice:
http://www.ncvs.org/ncvs/tutorials/voiceprod/tutorial/quality.html

hope this helps


"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
TheGloob
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
97 Posts
February 29 2016 13:36 GMT
#24
(Note: I'm not a great singer and I've never received proper instruction)

Here are a few things that have helped me:

1. Project/sing with confidence and volume (most people have talked about singing louder, breathing deeply, using your diaphragm so I won't beat a dead horse here)

2. Practice a line of a verse. Record it. Listen to it. Hear where you sound weird/weak/wrong/etc. Rerecord it. Repeat. Recording and listening is what helped me the most I think.

3. Choose a song you really feel and sing it. If you're mindlessly singing lyrics it might be hard to summon the emotion or confidence in you (but if you feel it too much you might start crying or just yelling angrily, avoid that too)

These are just a few things that have helped me... like I said I'm not great and I'm not professionally trained but I've gotten much better than I used to be (to the point where I was confident enough to sing my girlfriend a few songs).

Good luck!
JWD[9]
Profile Blog Joined November 2015
364 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-29 23:21:30
February 29 2016 23:10 GMT
#25
I took lessons in singing for over a year, I can tell you it is possible, to dramatically improve.

First off, your mic probably is pretty shite and cuts out many frequencies, a nice mic for singing does not come cheap, so in real life you probably do not sound as terrible.

1. Practice with your guitar, practice your hearing. Play a simple power chord, just root and fifth, then play only the fifth, try to really find that tone with your singing voice, then play the root and sing the fifth over it to feel some harmony and learn about intervals.

2.Your voice is shaky as a twerk, go for songs that force you to hold a tone for a long time. Look into breathing exercises, get that vibrato under control.

3. As you stated, you sound very nasal. With your voice, your body is your instrument, you can use other rooms than your nose to make a sound. Go and find these rooms inside you, inside you neck, your cheast, sing from your stomage, use all the room inside your mouth and throat.
For me Meat loaf helped me a lot there

Because I tackle this song like a classical singer would, opening up a lot of rooms I never ever use when trying to sing something else.

Yawn to find some room inside yourself for soundproduction.
Put your head on your chest, do not look up if singing ever becomes dificult, looking up, stretching your neck closes a lot of rooms. Don't over stress your voice, sing a song in another key, lower or higher, go slowly about improving your vocal range, it is not that important, see whitney huston.

I think the biggest difference to before I got teached how to sing and now, is that I have good control over my breath and know my resonance rooms. I can sing quite quite, with stable tone and still power in my voice. Power without controll is not worth much in an unexpirenced singer imo.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 19:29:49
March 02 2016 19:29 GMT
#26
thanks i just fixed my computer from it not working (because im a pro) so im back again
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