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klipik12
Profile Joined March 2012
United States241 Posts
September 02 2015 14:26 GMT
#41
What kind of insurance?
<(^_^)> || Axiom - CoL - mYi - Prime - ROOT - EG - Acer || WCS Teamleague pls ;-;
alphaproxy
Profile Joined October 2012
68 Posts
September 03 2015 11:09 GMT
#42
The main reason I didnt watch much was, a bit the FPS issues but mostly the player pool. Only 2-3 zergs were of a high enough tier. Dont know if theres much you can do about that.
Also if you want more ad revenue, along with other streamers, pressure twitch to finish that damn flash player removal...
evaunit01
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States512 Posts
September 03 2015 20:57 GMT
#43
ZombieGrub is smart and very cute. If I met her in RL I would ask her to join me for a cup of coffee. Just wanted to say that, also I enjoyed watching HIAT. =)
Gamertag: William T. Riker - My life for Aiur!
NyxNax
Profile Joined March 2014
United States227 Posts
September 04 2015 11:54 GMT
#44
I absolutely loved watching the event, Loved the overall feel and had fun in the twitch chat during the bit of downtime. I imagine the crowd had fun as well I don't see ANY other tournaments going for such a VIP experience as you 2 pulled off and was so jealous I wasn't there!
For future open brackets, I like the idea of starting the casting at the ro8 or so and have community casters do the initial phase. Highlight clips of some of the earlier games would then be cool if its possible to pull off. I do love watching the open brackets, but I can understand the cost factor and that seems like a good compromise.

As far as some of the people complaining about over-moderation. I mean meh... BTTV has created, imo, the absolute best twitch community and I've been saying it for more than a year now(love my partouf coin <3). Occasionally I think its difficult to decipher whether someone is being sincere or trolling, its the internet and you cant tell the manner in which someone is talking..typing.. whatever.. But either way, I mean,c'mon.. a comment being deleted.. big deal, some seem to take it so personally..Hell everyone can un-delete it. As far as people being banned, I haven't seen one that wasn't justified. How many other channels can you find that aren't full of people talking crap or saying ridiculous garbage just for shock value or to get a reaction? Can get enough of that in CS:GO lol..

Thank you so much Rif & ZG and everyone else for putting on an awesome event and cant wait for the next one!
EnderSword
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada669 Posts
September 10 2015 02:31 GMT
#45
On September 02 2015 07:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
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On September 02 2015 06:50 EnderSword wrote:
I think again you're somehow stuck on the idea of this event trying to be run by ticket money, it wasn't. WCS the month before got a large portion of its revenue from tickets, but that was never the intention when an internet cafe was chosen as the venue for HIAT.


then why do they even bring up the possibility of raising ticket prices in the OP? why discuss the money issue through the entire post? why excuse away MODs because they aer only "volunteers"?

whether its UFC 129, Wrestlemania, or the Toronto Blue Jays... they're here for the cash. and i got no problem with that. everyone has to make money considering the time and energy they are spending... unfortunately, toronto has dried up for the UFC, WWE, and SC2 eSports.

the HIAT crew works hard and they deserve to get paid man.
i think you do good work as well. i hope you get some cash to man.. because your time is worth something.

and if there is no cash to be made from holding an event here then its just another random place... i hope HIAT follows the money... where ever that may be.


Money can be exchanged for goods and services. The typical model for an event would be tickets + sponsorships + Stream revenues etc... you wouldn't just say 'this revenue stream doesn't cover all the costs, so I won't care about it at all'

Not everyone is in it for cash, in fact the vast majority of people who do these things are not, most of the money paid to the crew doing production and stuff just went back into a non-profit esports company to hold more tournaments and stuff. Most of us have...jobs, like we're adults with careers and stuff, we do it and take vacation time to do it because it's fun to do.

It just doesn't make sense to look at this type of community funded as some attempt to make money, that's just so out of touch with any reality.

Toronto is still the biggest SC2 hub in Canada.... period. It might be better if they were able to do it in like, Berlin or Seoul... but given that it's a Canadian event, that a whole tournament streaming and production crew lives in Toronto, that like 8 GMs live in the city with about 20 more within a 4-5 hour drive, and the largest population of any region in Canada...where the fuck else would you do it? Everywhere else would just lower attendance and add to the cost.

This idea of 'follow the money' for what is for most people involved a volunteer hobby is just plain childish, and you don't seem to have any viable alternative to doing it exactly where it was done.

Money is discussed because it was a crowd funded event, they're accountable for the money and how it was used, they're reporting the financial outcome to be transparent to the donors.

I can't even figure out what you're ultimately getting at, you don't make any sense, you're speaking insanely vaguely and mostly saying things that apply world wide... UFC and WWE viewership is just down period, UFC peaked in 2008-2009, and WWE rating have been falling about 15% a year for the past 3 years...you can say 'viewership in this city is lower'...it's lower everywhere, you face the exact same results in any other city. You offer no alternatives, and it sounds like even if you did, the same issue would apply to another city, but cost more to do.
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Soybanzai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States18 Posts
September 11 2015 15:15 GMT
#46
lets be honest - Gina was banning people left and right for NOTHING. I don't ever say anything in chat, but it was a disgusting display of abuse of power.

<3 ZG
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