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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
September 08 2014 22:20 GMT
#21
On September 08 2014 23:00 Sakray wrote:
Different mentality, mostly.


Yeah, the reason people win games is because they have good attitudes.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
September 08 2014 22:58 GMT
#22
Nina has a license to troll just cuz she's a girl, that's disgusting.
I think esports is pretty nice.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-09 01:09:30
September 09 2014 01:05 GMT
#23
On September 09 2014 06:37 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 03:30 brickrd wrote:
On September 09 2014 02:43 TheCzarOfAll wrote:
On September 09 2014 01:11 ninazerg wrote:
In the U.S., you have to remember, we've won every world championship Baseball, Basketball, and Football title in history. It's time to let some other countries shine for a bit.


USA got Bronze in the 2004 Olympics in Basketball. Other years they failed to win:

1972 (Silver)
1980 (Not in top 4)
1988 (Bronze)

Toronto Blue Jays (Canada) won the World Series in 1992 and 1993.

So......

im willing to bet 95% of the players on the blue jays were american during both of those championships

(i know its trolling but still)


pretty sure there was more than 1.3 latino on those teams

nina so witty.

latino residents of the usa aren't American?

On September 09 2014 07:20 Jerubaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 23:00 Sakray wrote:
Different mentality, mostly.


Yeah, the reason people win games is because they have good attitudes.

does this really answer the question though? then the question just becomes "why do koreans have better attitudes in starcraft" which goes right back to cultural differences like people said. in fact id argue it's not so much better attitudes as just having more opportunity to commit. if a NA player really wants to succeed and win but doesn't commit because he wants to go to school and have a life and a career id hardly call that a bad attitude
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-Kaiser-
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada932 Posts
September 09 2014 03:19 GMT
#24
On September 09 2014 07:58 Saechiis wrote:
Nina has a license to troll just cuz she's a girl, that's disgusting.


It's more of a birthright. Being female alone is a troll.
3 Hatch Before Cool
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
September 09 2014 05:34 GMT
#25
China is good at Dota because it was "free" and they have a shitload of people. Korea was good at SC2 because they had superior internet which allowed them to practice with each other easier (NA would have had to LAN). Japan is good at Street Fighter because arcades never really fell out of popularity unlike NA.

These are generalisations and there are more minutiae involved but it's the general idea.
@miicah88
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
September 09 2014 07:07 GMT
#26
On September 09 2014 14:34 miicah wrote:
Korea was good at SC2 because they had superior internet which allowed them to practice with each other easier (NA would have had to LAN).

lol have you ever heard of BW?
Yhamm is the god of predictions
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-10 22:19:04
September 10 2014 22:16 GMT
#27
Aside from the facts/hypothesis already mentioned about each country's reasons for picking up the game , culture, etc.

There is simply just random chaos.

Roll a dice, only 1 can be the winner. Or in this case the best. You could argue that you should/could see more well rounded game skill in certain games around the world, and I'm sure there is on some obscure games with little to no following. Actually, Poker and Magic Cards come to mind as pretty even around the world.

However, what I think happens is just chance. Some kid(s) pick up the game and get good at it, other people around them see that, they want to be like them, and so on an so forth. Then a community builds around it, then tournaments, then you get the idea.

Point is, wherever the first most skilled players appear, the quicker they bounce off of each other refining their play miles above the others, and since they are somewhat isolated in their training, it takes a while for people to catch up, and in the case of BW the culture never caught up at all in the 'mainstream'.

And you could probably say the same about any of these games.

I imagine there are tons of games that USA/CAN Americas are better at but no one really cares about them at the hardcore competitive levels. One that comes to mind is Super Smash Bros, if you watch that episodic docu, they even go to Japan and own the fuck out of them. The game came from japan and they were better at a point, but the scene and competition and rivalries across USA dominated.

tl;dr random talent, random rivalries/communities, random tournaments, random compeition, randomness is the reason why some countries seem better, but in reality it could have just as well been another country to take the top in X game in a parallel universe.
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