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I'm just wondering from those who actually believe in karma; I sorta do but don't quite get how it works sometimes..
I have this summer job I just returned to and there is a new girl that I'm training. I'm not a supervisor or anything, just another casual worker but a lot of my old co-workers have senior positions and I get along really well with all of them.
One of my buddies just asked me how the new trainee's performance was and I kinda.. er.. wasn't too impressed but it was only 1 day. I feel like I want to kinda dodge the question and give a neutral answer because if I said the complete truth, I'm worried she might get fired since it's still the probation period and she's a genuinely kind person.
If I give a bad review without really having a complete judgement, would that be bad karma for me if she gets fired?? =(
I'm worried that if I get it wrong, one day someone will give a bad review about me without really getting the full facts. Ahhh, I don't like this responsibility of being a trainer. (I didn't ask for it, it was thrown on me)
  
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First of all, firing someone after a one day review would be ridiculous.
Name some good and bad points, but emphasize on the fact that you have incomplete judgement, due to limited time. You don't have to dodge a question if you really can't know the answer. In that sense, if this would lead to bad karma, karma itself would be an absurd phenomenon, provided you don't lie.
I don't really actively believe in karma or something, but this was my first reaction.
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To me, this sounds like a case where telling some version truth would be the best for everyone. However, depending on where your sympathies lie, you can say the truth in a number of different ways. The way I see it, neither of these would be incorrect or cause "bad karma" given your description:
– "Her performance was bad today, and she took a long time doing even simple stuff. I'm not sure she is the right person for the job."
– "She wasn't too fast at picking up things, but on the other hand, everyone needs to learn the ropes. I think we should give her more time to get used to the job, I feel certain she will do better in the future."
On April 29 2014 01:07 Yorbon wrote:
Name some good and bad points, but emphasize on the fact that you have incomplete judgement, due to limited time. You don't have to dodge a question if you really can't know the answer.
I don't think this is the right way to approach this. Clearly he has had enough time to make an opinion, he just isn't very fond of saying it.
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Karma doesn't really exist, or else we wouldn't have starving children, disfigured babies, and billionaire douchebags.
This is one of the reasons why people choose to believe in afterlives or Heaven/ Hell... because it can be comforting to think that there really is someone keeping score and you'll eventually get what's coming to you (either good or bad).
The closest real thing to karma is the Golden Rule (imo): Treat others how you want to be treated (barring sociopathy, etc.). Treating others with kindness and respect and helping someone in need may garner the same helpful actions when you need sympathy and assistance from them. Reciprocation, "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours", don't burn bridges, etc.
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Don' t believe in Karma. believe in free will
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Speaking from my reading in early Buddhism (I'm no authority), you must believe in reincarnation if you want to believe in karma. You should be as kind and positive as you can while still remaining truthful. So, speak the truth as kindly as you can, and whatever happens after that is out of your hands.
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Guys he didn't ask whether or not he should believe in karma, he asked a question about how karma works.
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On April 29 2014 01:35 nunun wrote:To me, this sounds like a case where telling some version truth would be the best for everyone. However, depending on where your sympathies lie, you can say the truth in a number of different ways. The way I see it, neither of these would be incorrect or cause "bad karma" given your description: – "Her performance was bad today, and she took a long time doing even simple stuff. I'm not sure she is the right person for the job." – "She wasn't too fast at picking up things, but on the other hand, everyone needs to learn the ropes. I think we should give her more time to get used to the job, I feel certain she will do better in the future." Show nested quote +On April 29 2014 01:07 Yorbon wrote:
Name some good and bad points, but emphasize on the fact that you have incomplete judgement, due to limited time. You don't have to dodge a question if you really can't know the answer. I don't think this is the right way to approach this. Clearly he has had enough time to make an opinion, he just isn't very fond of saying it. I kinda.. er.. wasn't too impressed but it was only 1 day.
If I give a bad review without really having a complete judgement,...
I don't think it's that clear.
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On April 29 2014 02:41 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Guys he didn't ask whether or not he should believe in karma, he asked a question about how karma works.
I feel that explaining how it doesn't work/ exist is still a relevant response though.
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On April 29 2014 02:41 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Guys he didn't ask whether or not he should believe in karma, he asked a question about how karma works.
Not really... he asks that in the title, but in the blog itself he's really asking "What should I do in this uncomfortable situation?" and "Do you believe what goes around comes around?" It's kind of like if I made a post titled "How does gravity work?" and then inside the post I say something like "Gonna try jumping off my roof today, not sure if gonna hurt myself." Explaining gravity to me in that case is probably beside the point. But hey if someone is really knowledgeable about Hinduism and Buddhism I wouldn't mind seeing a good explanation of karma.
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Karma is different depending on who you ask. The general concept is that you reap what you sew. Do good, get good. Do bad, get bad.
Depending on who you ask it can be more complicated than that.
The reason the karmic system makes sense in say, buddhism - despite babies dying and good things happening to bad people is because buddhism follows a system that includes rebirth, so things span over multiple lifetimes.
For people who don't believe in such a system, I'd recommend one that focuses on this view of the world: People with a positive outlook will experience positivity. Those with a negative outlook will experience negativity.
And to respond to the actual post, just do your job.
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If you think she has potential, instead of giving a negative review, just say that she is currently learning or ramping up and include some details. Don't lie and say she's doing okay or doing great, because that will not go well if months down the road she's still doing poorly and you need to recommend her release. If you are the one training her, her performance is not only an indication of her own abilities, but also your guidance, so try to make this work.
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I've always thought as Karma as RNG being interpreted by humans. Doesn't really exist, but humans love to try and rationalize shit like this.
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On April 29 2014 01:07 Yorbon wrote:
First of all, firing someone after a one day review would be ridiculous.
This says everything that needs to be said really lol
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Support or midlane Karma?
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I say we are all karma Houdini, for better or worse.
That doesn't mean be a jerk. But it does mean the issue here is not karma. It is whether you will be honest and accommodating at the same time, which you have received good advice toward already.
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I would say that even if you do believe in karma in the literal sense, that giving the trainee an unfavorable review would not count as "bad karma". Just because your unfavorable review may or may not cause them to be fired does not mean you are responsible if they do get fired.
You can also do your job (both training and answering a question from your superior about the trainees ability honestly) without having a be overly negative about the trainee. Answer the question about their competence and give your opinion about whether or not they show signs of being able to improve.
What would it mean to your karma if the trainee was not competent and ended up hurting the company in the long run, because you didn't voice an honest opinion about them at the beginning for fear of damaging your karma?
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On April 29 2014 07:15 Nibbler89 wrote:
Support or midlane Karma?
Gtfo with that kiddie game shit
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I fail to see what this has to do with karma.
If you're asking what most asian ethic systems would say, they'll mostly be all "do right by your leaders" and "act for the good of the company" because they're pretty big on hierachy.
The whole "solidarity with coworkers against the capitalist management" is very much a western thing (don't be fooled by the name of what passes as communism over there)
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