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Having fun in SC2 again :D

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BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
November 19 2013 09:14 GMT
#1
So around a year ago I kinda stopped playing SC2 kinda suddenly.
I was mainly due to:
- I just had made it back to diamond, and didnt feel like I had the ability to make it to masters, so I had no concrete goal anymore.
- I fucking hated TvP
- WoW:MoP had just came out and my friends wanted to give it a go.

So yeah, for a year I didnt play much, I played WoW for a bit, then went to LoL with the same friends with a few other games mixed in. I still bought HotS, played a few game at the release, but it didnt last. I kept following the scene a bit, but I probably played less than 20 games in a year since then.

Last week the WCS finals got me hyped up and I wanted to play again. So I fired up the game again, played a few games got trashed (expected) and one thing came up again.

TvP.

Fuck this fucking goddamn matchup. It may be balanced, but it sure as hell isn't fun to play. :<

So what happened was I played a few games last week, got frustrated by TvP and stopped again.
But I wasn't satisfied, I still wanted to play TvT and TvZ. I just wanted to get rid of this "What if I get a TvP AGAIN" fear that prevented me of pressing the Find Match button :<

So yesterday I went back to the game once again, with the decision that I would just fucking proxy 11/11 in every TvP. And surprise: game is fun again :D

-I dont have the fear anymore of getting a matchup that I fucking hate 40% of the time when I start a ladder game.
-Mixing in cheese is actually pretty fun and I didnt do it enough before.
-Practicing micro (well I must admit this one is to feel better about myself )
-I get to make Protoss players rage after all those years o/

Yay !

TLDR: Proxy 11/11 in TvP, game is fun again, yay !

****
Romanes eunt domus
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
November 19 2013 10:00 GMT
#2
haha, I did the same thing for a little while (11/11 TvP). Eventually it stopped working, but by then I had a picked up a few builds that could actually work.
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
November 19 2013 11:26 GMT
#3
I actually cannot stand TvP. It's the least fun matchup in the game as Terran.
Mythal
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Spain108 Posts
November 19 2013 11:41 GMT
#4
I'm P, and I do exactly the same. I hate PvP so I just DT rush everytime xD
"I wanna read the diary not smoke it!"
Cyroch
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany45 Posts
November 19 2013 11:53 GMT
#5
I hate ZvP, so I started proxy hatching at his natural. Win or Loss the game ends quickly and I do not have to deal with mass VR or Colo Deathball nonsense.
The point of quotations is that one can use another's words to be insulting.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-19 12:38:29
November 19 2013 12:37 GMT
#6
When i was playing TvT back in wol i would do the "biscuit" build. TvT oh fuck it i don't want to play for 2hours. Proxy BC that motherfucker ! :p

Now that i'm back playing Zerg... ZvZ... NO ! NO ! 9pool at best, 6pool at worst. Game does not last long :p
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
November 19 2013 12:45 GMT
#7
On November 19 2013 21:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
When i was playing TvT back in wol i would do the "biscuit" build. TvT oh fuck it i don't want to play for 2hours. Proxy BC that motherfucker ! :p

Now that i'm back playing Zerg... ZvZ... NO ! NO ! 9pool at best, 6pool at worst. Game does not last long :p

Proxy BC sounds fun, I dont think it would be doable in TvP though
Romanes eunt domus
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
November 19 2013 12:47 GMT
#8
hm, maybe I'll try that too. leaving roughly 20 TvPs last week at the start of the game surly destroyed my MMR.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
November 19 2013 15:13 GMT
#9
I quit playing over the start of the summer and well fell in love with my PS3 again lol I have started playing SC 2 more lately though.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
November 19 2013 15:54 GMT
#10
fucking TvP, it's why I quit.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
November 19 2013 16:20 GMT
#11
On November 19 2013 21:45 BobMcJohnson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2013 21:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
When i was playing TvT back in wol i would do the "biscuit" build. TvT oh fuck it i don't want to play for 2hours. Proxy BC that motherfucker ! :p

Now that i'm back playing Zerg... ZvZ... NO ! NO ! 9pool at best, 6pool at worst. Game does not last long :p

Proxy BC sounds fun, I dont think it would be doable in TvP though


Well i don't know if it can work. Because BC in early destroy marines. You get yamato before viking (or at the same time) but i was not at a level where oponent can micro viking perfectly so... it's not really a problem.

But you can try and post your build here :p
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Defaced
Profile Joined June 2011
Lithuania26 Posts
November 19 2013 18:03 GMT
#12
I'm coming back to sc2 now too that I'm finally getting a better pc and actually thinking of switching to terran. Why is tvp so bad, is it random stuff early game or collo/templar being hard to micro against late game?

I used to play toss but that was mostly couz i was playing on a duocore laptop that's 8 years old now and getting 1 fps in late game fights so i just tried winning early/mid game or macro better late game...

Oh well, good to know you are enjoying the game again :D
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
November 19 2013 18:10 GMT
#13
On November 20 2013 03:03 Defaced wrote:
I'm coming back to sc2 now too that I'm finally getting a better pc and actually thinking of switching to terran. Why is tvp so bad, is it random stuff early game or collo/templar being hard to micro against late game?

I used to play toss but that was mostly couz i was playing on a duocore laptop that's 8 years old now and getting 1 fps in late game fights so i just tried winning early/mid game or macro better late game...

Oh well, good to know you are enjoying the game again :D

splash is really hard to deal with if you don't micro properly
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
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