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Jan1997
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Norway671 Posts
August 25 2013 17:18 GMT
#1
What's fun for you? In gaming terms i mean. The reason i ask this question is because of the fact that everyone enjoys gaming in different ways. And i'd like to know what you guys do to have fun? I know that some people have fun by just playing. Playing with no goals in mind and just enjoying the game, while others play with goals in mind. Personally i can't play a game by just goofing around i just can't enjoy games that way. I always play to achieve something, whether it's unlocking gold guns in cod or passing difficult campaign missions. Or maybe even just finishing off with a victory in a match. I like to try and achieve something while i play.... always. It just makes the game so much more fun when you complete challenges or do something awesome.

By the way if you feel like the theme of this blog is boring then i wanna let you know that i feel for you lol. I make boring blogs but i just get an urge to write stuff sometimes :p

Alright so jumping abit off topic i just wanted to share that today i decided to play some cod 4 again, since i hadn't played it in ages. And i was kinda suprised at how much fun i had playing the game. Normally you would think that old games are boring because theire outdated but if it's one thing i've discovered during this year then it is the fact that simple games are the best games (not always but most of the time) And the reason i enjoyed cod 4 so much was because it was so simple, yet so fun. There was no fancy killstreaks or fancy perk setups. It kinda felt like a true war. And the maps.... man cod 4 got the greatest maps man im not even kidding lol strike,block,downpour,wetwork and many more awesome maps. I even bough the mw2 dlc a few months ago just so i could get the cod 4 maps on that game ;D

And also im pretty sure none of you have heard about this game before but i've also played a game called mark of the ninja, and once again it's a perfect example of a cheap and simple game that is incredibly fun to play. It's an arcade game with several different mission that relies on you not being spotted and rewards you for being stealthy. ill link you a video if you're curious about this game.
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If you want to buy the game yourself it's currently being sold on the xbox marketplace for 1200 ms points.

And that concludes my blog. It's realy cool to see that sometimes old and cheap games can give you just as much entertainment as new and expensive games.

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Do something today that your future self will be thankful for.
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
August 25 2013 17:41 GMT
#2
The fun is getting into the zone, forgetting about the rest of the world, finding that point of utter focus and experiencing your thinking fused together with acting. Once you achieve that, even losing the game in the end doesn't feel bad.
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
August 25 2013 17:54 GMT
#3
Mark of the ninja is an amazing game, it's actually getting pretty well known as its such a well done stealth based experience.
mafaba
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany73 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-25 18:15:59
August 25 2013 18:09 GMT
#4
I have the most fun when teamwork actually works (Dota), when iam able to keep my crosshair exactly onto the enemys body
no matter if hes strafing with a pistol or not (CS:S) and last but not least
when iam "in the zone" in sc2 , my macro is perfect while the terran is dropping me and iam creeping the hole map.

Long story short i have the most fun when i play "THIS ONE GAME" who everyone is playing games for, when everything just fits and works.
Ettick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States2434 Posts
August 25 2013 22:08 GMT
#5
I have the most fun when I'm not taking a game seriously but still doing somewhat well.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
August 26 2013 00:47 GMT
#6
It depends on my mood. Like there are days I just wanna be try hard and play a competitive game and I get a thrill out of that. Like SC II. There are other times I just want to enjoy a great story, like a Final Fantasy, or mass effect. Sometimes I just wanna own bad guys so I play batman lol.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 26 2013 00:48 GMT
#7
strike,block,downpour,wetwork

Other than strike, those are terrible maps To each their own though.

The call of duty franchise innovated once in their entire series, and that was cod4, and it's by far the best game in the series
Anyway, I enjoy a game that either immerses me in a good story, or one that gives me a sense of accomplishment. Or I guess one that gives me a sense of wonder but that's really rare.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Race is Terran
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States382 Posts
August 26 2013 01:02 GMT
#8
i love splitting marines against banelings off creep
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 01:22:30
August 26 2013 01:19 GMT
#9
On August 26 2013 09:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
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strike,block,downpour,wetwork

The call of duty franchise innovated once in their entire series, and that was cod4, and it's by far the best game in the series


What do you want? It's an FPS. It's been a lot more innovative in it's iterations than say, Counter-Strike.

Also, you are wrong. The first Black Ops has been the best Call of Duty so far. Unless you're talking about single player campaign, which I'm not sure why you would.

Honestly the most fun I've had gaming has been playing Call of Duty with my friends. It's not even because the game is good, it's just really a social thing. It could easily be another multi-player game.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 01:56:00
August 26 2013 01:41 GMT
#10
It depends on my mood. I either like competition (clear cut mechanics, so the better man wins). Sometimes though, I prefer a good story. In Single Player game, I prefer a good story over a high level of difficulty. If I want something tough, I'll go play against other players.

On August 26 2013 10:19 deathly rat wrote:
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On August 26 2013 09:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
strike,block,downpour,wetwork

The call of duty franchise innovated once in their entire series, and that was cod4, and it's by far the best game in the series


What do you want? It's an FPS. It's been a lot more innovative in it's iterations than say, Counter-Strike.

Also, you are wrong. The first Black Ops has been the best Call of Duty so far. Unless you're talking about single player campaign, which I'm not sure why you would.

Honestly the most fun I've had gaming has been playing Call of Duty with my friends. It's not even because the game is good, it's just really a social thing. It could easily be another multi-player game.

The game is bad but you can have fun with friends with anything. Sticks? Good enough.

Regardless comparing it to CS is unfair for many reasons. I think the main one is, the "iterations" of CS were mostly patches, and some vastly improved versions. They were free for the most part. All the retail releases were entirely revamped with strongly modified or entirely different engines. CS:S was a disaster, sadly. CSGO is pretty damn good and was only like $12. Meanwhile, COD re-released the same game every year with minor improvements, always at full retail price.

Certainly COD was more "innovative" than CS during its life... but CS, beyond its release, never wanted to innovate. It's a game for old grumpy purists like myself. It's a good game, rather than a funky arcade thing to play with the bros and for Activision to make money by selling content patches for $60 a pop.

Lastly I want to specify that when I yield the fact that COD has been more innovative *in its iterations* than CS, it's important to stress that CS is more innovative than COD anyway. CS invented something. COD didn't - it executed existing things with a varying degree of success.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
August 26 2013 01:56 GMT
#11
You just can't argue that CoD isn't a fun game. It's the most popular game of our generation. It's not the marketing campaigns that keep people playing for hours and hours.

People who play CoD justify spending a lot of money on the game because they know they are going to get good value out of it. So many gamers have had the experience of buying a game at full retail price, and realising it only keeps them entertained for a few precious hours. A game that gives you hundreds of hours of gameplay is worth more money.

Don't even get started on companies, evil companies, wanting to make.....money.

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Some "sticks" I've had a lot of fun playing with.
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 02:29:05
August 26 2013 02:14 GMT
#12
On August 26 2013 10:56 deathly rat wrote:
You just can't argue that CoD isn't a fun game. It's the most popular game of our generation. It's not the marketing campaigns that keep people playing for hours and hours.

People who play CoD justify spending a lot of money on the game because they know they are going to get good value out of it. So many gamers have had the experience of buying a game at full retail price, and realising it only keeps them entertained for a few precious hours. A game that gives you hundreds of hours of gameplay is worth more money.

Don't even get started on companies, evil companies, wanting to make.....money.

Some "sticks" I've had a lot of fun playing with.

I can't argue that CoD isn't a fun game because it's popular? The most common argument to prove that wrong is "You can't prove that Justin Bieber's music isn't good because he's popular". Sure, COD is popular. I also don't enjoy it, because I sincerely think it's a bad game.

As for the business side of things, I think it's important to note. Not only is the game bad, but on top of it the "evil companies who want to make money" are exploitative and pedatory. Now I understand life and I know that companies need to make money but Activision is disliked for a damn good reason, they're not fair to their customers.

I don't understand how people can think COD is a good game anyway. By itself it sucks. Given a few friends and some banter, I'm sure the scrubfest is entertaining. From my perspective though as a CS player, the game is so not technical it's boring. At first it's confusing because people seem to be strafing and spraying which apparently doesn't disadvantage them at all. In pubs, those kids can still get a bunch of kills too. Combined with slow movements, it's so easy in public servers.

Now, I know I would get murdered by the good COD players because even though it's easy to get kills, those guys are still orders of magnitude better than me. However, the CS players just seem more serious to me, more talented, less gamey. So sure the game is fun, whoopwhoop. I think it's very shallow regardless. That's why COD players are often referred to as COD kiddies. It's a gamey game that's very nice for children.

Edit: It occurred to me that we should take this to PMs or drop it.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
August 26 2013 03:09 GMT
#13
It's only fun when they run.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
August 26 2013 05:35 GMT
#14
Playing a difficult game that has a steep learning curve. Independently figuring out how to be good at said game(I can't stand when people immediately run to forums/sites for guides, builds, etc., without attempting to figure it out on your own). Beating others who are also very good at said difficult game.



Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
August 26 2013 06:53 GMT
#15
Dota 2 is fun, but as soon as I lose not so much.

I also think playing Guitar is fun.
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 26 2013 07:44 GMT
#16
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
August 26 2013 07:48 GMT
#17
Thanks rabid that video was really fun.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 12:15:53
August 26 2013 12:15 GMT
#18
Whats fun to YOU

Huge arguement about why a game isnt fun. Seriously.
Useless wet fish.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
August 26 2013 12:33 GMT
#19
Being immersed in glorious worlds like bg2, me1, stuff like that.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
August 26 2013 14:04 GMT
#20
What's fun for me is playing a competitive 1v1 game like Starcraft and crushing my opponent. Having him try his absolute best against me and still failing. Laughing at his pitiful attempts to stave of defeat while I tear him apart.

Maybe I should see a doctor.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
August 26 2013 14:09 GMT
#21
On August 26 2013 23:04 Sayle wrote:
What's fun for me is playing a competitive 1v1 game like Starcraft and crushing my opponent. Having him try his absolute best against me and still failing. Laughing at his pitiful attempts to stave of defeat while I tear him apart.

Maybe I should see a doctor.

‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
FluffyBinLaden
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States527 Posts
August 26 2013 17:27 GMT
#22
On August 26 2013 23:04 Sayle wrote:
What's fun for me is playing a competitive 1v1 game like Starcraft and crushing my opponent. Having him try his absolute best against me and still failing. Laughing at his pitiful attempts to stave of defeat while I tear him apart.

Maybe I should see a doctor.


As sadistic as that sounds when said aloud, it does feel sooo good. Pitting your skills against another person's in a duel to the death and coming out on top by dominating him is a real ego booster.

CS:GO has kept me enthralled recently. 5v5 with a couple of friends, working together while still requiring a large amount of individual skill, the feeling of raiding a bombsite and getting 3 entry kills between the five of you and holding strong as the last two throw themselves against the wall that is your team. Mmmm, I'm gonna go play some more. ^^
Riddles in the Dark. Answers in the Light.
FrogsAreDogs
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada181 Posts
August 26 2013 17:35 GMT
#23
Poker Defense and Protect Bob in Sc2 Arcade.


yolo420blazeit
YO
LOLZEY
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada71 Posts
August 26 2013 20:48 GMT
#24
On August 27 2013 02:35 FrogsAreDogs wrote:
Poker Defense and Protect Bob in Sc2 Arcade.


yolo420blazeit

WHY THE F**K IS BOB SO IMPORTANT??!?

ez

User was warned for this post
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KingDime
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada750 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 21:07:26
August 26 2013 21:06 GMT
#25
I love watching my constant improvement and pushing myself even more with games. Since i've transitioned to speedrunning from SC2, I might as well use an example.



Im going to use my recent demo that I produced a couple days ago for concerned E1M1. This video shows how far i've come after a ton of practice for doom. But after a second look, the yellow key room isn't as optimal as it could be and I hesitate several times after clearing a room before moving on, also my movement is strong but it could be better. This map could definitely go sub 50 with some of these optimizations.

Gaming for me is about always breaking the limits that I set for myself and to never become satisfied with my skill level. Unfortunately, I made the mistake of becoming satisfied with my sc2 results after hitting grandmaster, and winning a few tournaments. I didn't set new goals or critique my play to the same level as previously.
Doom Guy
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
August 26 2013 21:58 GMT
#26
Day9 said it best, "Gaming is only fun when it hurts".

For me at least.
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Eriksen
Profile Joined December 2012
Micronesia720 Posts
August 27 2013 02:18 GMT
#27
I might have the only simplest definition of fun: "Winning" and "Improving".

That's why I constantly check into the QQ thread (Dota 2) and having issues with real life. Damn.
Whether it has ended with a happy ending or sad, I never was an important thing to you.
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
August 27 2013 05:58 GMT
#28
Trying to become the best like no one ever was, to catch them is my real test to train them is my cause.

For real though trying to become the best at something is what keeps me playing.
FrogsAreDogs
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada181 Posts
August 27 2013 14:01 GMT
#29
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 27 2013 05:48 LOLZEY wrote:
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On August 27 2013 02:35 FrogsAreDogs wrote:
Poker Defense and Protect Bob in Sc2 Arcade.


yolo420blazeit

WHY THE F**K IS BOB SO IMPORTANT??!?

ez

User was warned for this post

Ahahahhahaha can't believe you got warned. Protect Bob is fun yo. If you don't protect him NO ONE will.
YO
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44275 Posts
August 28 2013 02:58 GMT
#30
really depends on the mood .. i also had fun with cod 4 .. cod is a type of game you could repeat over and over since its pretty simple and quite fast paced ..

i enjoy playing dota only when the game is so close and i am playing with my friends .. i find it so entertaining when it is quite difficult to win against the other team .. in those kind of matches i dont even mind losing as long as its challenging ..

when i have the mood to be competitive i enjoy broodwar and sc2 ..

i also like very oldest games like battle realms. empire earth, HL1 , CS .. those games bring the child in me even though their graphics are crappy ..
this is a quote
Gendo
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom216 Posts
September 02 2013 21:21 GMT
#31
Played consoles for 18 years until i gave SC2 a try and never looked back, i now enjoy pc gaming since i find it more variate with interesting games which aren't copycats.

Since i've discovered multiplayer on xbox live i've lost interest in single player games and at the moment the most rewarding experience is entering online Starcraft tourneys and online Sim Racing with a proper set up and skilled opponents.

I would give Sim Racing the upper hand because imo it instantly rewards raw skill and online play puts a silly grin on my face (literally) regardless of result.
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
September 02 2013 21:25 GMT
#32
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PQ6335puOc

Was coming here to post this.

Dammit.
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