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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
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Last Edited: 2013-07-24 02:48:43
July 24 2013 02:43 GMT
#21
On July 24 2013 08:30 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
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On July 24 2013 05:55 Djzapz wrote:
On July 23 2013 14:00 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
On July 23 2013 09:55 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
i don't get it


Ya i don't really get it either. I've never been too intense into fps but there has never been a moment were i run around a corner and die cause I mistook gunshots for footsteps or vice verca

I don't get what you don't get... if you're deaf you don't hear either so if you have a visual hud that gives you a visual cue for the direction of the sound, then you're on the same level as someone who heard it instead of seeing it.

On July 23 2013 14:50 MarlieChurphy wrote:
It's obvious that you are person A. And I think it's dumb to change any game to help a disabled person. But where do you draw the line, I remember colorblind people complaining about the nuke dot and other things in sc2 and wanting blizz to make some changes which they almost did.

You don't need to draw a line, there's no slippery slope if you say this is an exception because it's a simple fix to a simple problem and it's not overpowered. It doesn't imply that other exceptions need to be made for every disability, but in this specific case, it's convenient and humane. Certain games and tournaments for instance allow fixes for color blind players and whatnot. And to my knowledge it doesn't give any advantage to color blind people, nor would this give an advantage to a deaf person, it would merely allow them to play. They would still be disadvantaged because they can't split their attention to two senses and have to process everything through their eyes.

I still don't understand why exceptions cannot be made to help people when their disabilities can be helped with a simple fix which is not excessive or abusive in any way. I don't understand why preserving the game's integrity from even the most mild of compromises somehow supersedes helping a disabled person.

I'm both surprised and disappointed to see how little people give a fuck about helping people with disabilities... even when the "cost" is negligible, it's different so fuck those people... I have no stake in this but I still think it's very sad that people would rather keep their little videogames perfectly "pure" rather than helping others.


If you read my earlier post, were on the same page. I have no problem with providing people with disabilities the equipment or software to help them play on an equal footing.

And the Olympics don't have a problem with it either, so i don't see why teenagers should either. Just because you see it on the screen doesn't help you headshot or communicate with teammates. Like you said there still at a disadvantage.

I don't get why this argument exists in the first place.

Well the poll and the posts suggest that there are people on both sides. It even seems like the majority is on the other side. It's strange to me.

Also sorry I misunderstood your post.
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MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 08:51:15
July 24 2013 08:48 GMT
#22
On July 24 2013 11:43 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 08:30 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
On July 24 2013 05:55 Djzapz wrote:
On July 23 2013 14:00 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
On July 23 2013 09:55 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
i don't get it


Ya i don't really get it either. I've never been too intense into fps but there has never been a moment were i run around a corner and die cause I mistook gunshots for footsteps or vice verca

I don't get what you don't get... if you're deaf you don't hear either so if you have a visual hud that gives you a visual cue for the direction of the sound, then you're on the same level as someone who heard it instead of seeing it.

On July 23 2013 14:50 MarlieChurphy wrote:
It's obvious that you are person A. And I think it's dumb to change any game to help a disabled person. But where do you draw the line, I remember colorblind people complaining about the nuke dot and other things in sc2 and wanting blizz to make some changes which they almost did.

You don't need to draw a line, there's no slippery slope if you say this is an exception because it's a simple fix to a simple problem and it's not overpowered. It doesn't imply that other exceptions need to be made for every disability, but in this specific case, it's convenient and humane. Certain games and tournaments for instance allow fixes for color blind players and whatnot. And to my knowledge it doesn't give any advantage to color blind people, nor would this give an advantage to a deaf person, it would merely allow them to play. They would still be disadvantaged because they can't split their attention to two senses and have to process everything through their eyes.

I still don't understand why exceptions cannot be made to help people when their disabilities can be helped with a simple fix which is not excessive or abusive in any way. I don't understand why preserving the game's integrity from even the most mild of compromises somehow supersedes helping a disabled person.

I'm both surprised and disappointed to see how little people give a fuck about helping people with disabilities... even when the "cost" is negligible, it's different so fuck those people... I have no stake in this but I still think it's very sad that people would rather keep their little videogames perfectly "pure" rather than helping others.


If you read my earlier post, were on the same page. I have no problem with providing people with disabilities the equipment or software to help them play on an equal footing.

And the Olympics don't have a problem with it either, so i don't see why teenagers should either. Just because you see it on the screen doesn't help you headshot or communicate with teammates. Like you said there still at a disadvantage.

I don't get why this argument exists in the first place.

Well the poll and the posts suggest that there are people on both sides. It even seems like the majority is on the other side. It's strange to me.

Also sorry I misunderstood your post.


I think the point is that people have limitations and we shouldn't be modifying the sport or whatever every time a new rare thing pops up, because ultimately it fucks with everyone else. This applies to everything in life; building codes, political correctness, allergy banned foods, gender neutrality, etc.

Like seriously, some people are tall so they play basketball, we don't put stilts on short guys to make it fair for them. They have their lack of genes which decides what they can and can not do. Its the hand that nature dealt you, do something else. I'm sure there are other things you can do that you can excel at. Even against 'normal' people in the same field.

I also think it's stupid that they let those people with the crazy leg spring leg prosthetic are allowed to race with other runners.
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