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3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
June 26 2013 20:52 GMT
#41
On June 27 2013 05:35 E.L.V.I.S wrote:
manner nexus when you ask for practice games wasn't the nicest thing you done lol

Obviously he was just practicing his manner nexus

tbh that doesn't really count as 'bm' in my book, just a tactic that annoys your opponents
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3455 Posts
June 26 2013 21:21 GMT
#42
Wow there are quite a few posters here who just registered less than 48hrs ago. I smell sth fishy... And by that I meant find professional help dude, smurfing to praise yourself doesn't seem normal to me.
E.L.V.I.S
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium458 Posts
June 26 2013 21:41 GMT
#43
On June 27 2013 06:21 vndestiny wrote:
Wow there are quite a few posters here who just registered less than 48hrs ago. I smell sth fishy... And by that I meant find professional help dude, smurfing to praise yourself doesn't seem normal to me.

You come to conclusions way too fast, your accusation makes no sense... good night
http://twitch.tv/maggrig | @SC2ELVIS | http://www.facebook.com/sc2ELVIS
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
June 26 2013 22:23 GMT
#44
On June 27 2013 06:21 vndestiny wrote:
Wow there are quite a few posters here who just registered less than 48hrs ago. I smell sth fishy... And by that I meant find professional help dude, smurfing to praise yourself doesn't seem normal to me.

You don't know he made those accounts, and if he had, I believe they would have been detected and banned by now.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Zoku
Profile Joined November 2010
307 Posts
June 26 2013 23:33 GMT
#45
On June 26 2013 11:32 NanoClouD wrote:
I think we all need to take a step back from the hate. I believe at the higher level of play, emotions run high and things get said that arent meant. Of course this doesnt justify any behavior but I would like to point out that very few people have the courage to make a post and applogize for their behavior. I'm willing to give believe a second chance. Above all, he definitely has cut down if not completely erased his behaviors. Most of the hate has been from the past. As a small community we need to support our members and forgive them for past transgressions. Its a game! Lets all enjoy it! I think we should forgive believe and he is already not just talking the talk but showing his change via actions. I for one will not judge him on his prior behavior but will watch his stream and see the way he acts now. We should give people second chances and not always get our pitchforks out.

=)


1 Post
Account created June 26, 2013.

Seems legit.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
June 26 2013 23:50 GMT
#46
On June 27 2013 06:21 vndestiny wrote:
Wow there are quite a few posters here who just registered less than 48hrs ago. I smell sth fishy... And by that I meant find professional help dude, smurfing to praise yourself doesn't seem normal to me.


I totally support Believe 100%, because he is a good guy with a good heart, and none of those accounts are his - he just said "Hey, people are hounding me on TL and I'm depressed." and his friends were like "Don't worry, we'll set this straight." and he was like "No, you don't gotta do that. What they're saying is true... I'm a terrible person " and then his friends decided that enough was enough! They've had it with... these... ugly comments... on this message board.

Also, Believe never hacked, the reps were scanned by mca64, they're legit, mca approved, case closed. Anyhow, stop being a bunch of whiny haters. Believe is a great person, and I'm sure you're all great people too. We don't need all this animosity when clearly, there are more important things in life.

#ibelieve
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
LaG.Gaming
Profile Joined April 2011
United States288 Posts
June 27 2013 00:40 GMT
#47
On June 27 2013 08:33 Zoku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 11:32 NanoClouD wrote:
I think we all need to take a step back from the hate. I believe at the higher level of play, emotions run high and things get said that arent meant. Of course this doesnt justify any behavior but I would like to point out that very few people have the courage to make a post and applogize for their behavior. I'm willing to give believe a second chance. Above all, he definitely has cut down if not completely erased his behaviors. Most of the hate has been from the past. As a small community we need to support our members and forgive them for past transgressions. Its a game! Lets all enjoy it! I think we should forgive believe and he is already not just talking the talk but showing his change via actions. I for one will not judge him on his prior behavior but will watch his stream and see the way he acts now. We should give people second chances and not always get our pitchforks out.

=)


1 Post
Account created June 26, 2013.

Seems legit.


that i know nanocloud is a .SCA player ?
LaGGaming.net // Money cant buy happiness, but can pay for the internet that is almost the same.
AuRora7
Profile Joined November 2010
16 Posts
June 27 2013 20:06 GMT
#48
Is this Showtime , Trixy, believe etc?
If you immediately know the candlelight is fire.. than the meal was cooked long ago. Twitch.tv/AuRora7
Xtkq
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada14 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-27 23:07:25
June 27 2013 23:06 GMT
#49
something i've learned from all this is the average sc2 player base is extremely immature. sure believe BMs, but move on and get over with it. it's a video game, anything you take into literal context is your own fault. it's extremely hypocritical that you people pursue Believe and people such as him but people like Nerchio and IdrA are completely fine right? just because Believe isn't "e-famous" he isn't exempt to the "it's fine to BM" status?

People get upset in this game, you should expect outlash of emotions. people get mad and frusturated when they arent excelling at something they are passionate about. everyone in here has bm'd at some point or thought bad things about another player. so forgive and forget and move on.

Believe is a great player, I know him IRL and he's a good friend. He's one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. He might be a bit BM online, but that's because he gets frusturated when he loses. I'm pretty sure Believe doesn't say anything he actually means most of the time. I know he has beef with some of the Toronto players (and so do I), so maybe theirs some hatred between them. But the randoms he plays on ladder i doubt he actually means anything he says

ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
June 27 2013 23:15 GMT
#50
On June 28 2013 08:06 Xtkq wrote:
something i've learned from all this is the average sc2 player base is extremely immature. sure believe BMs, but move on and get over with it. it's a video game, anything you take into literal context is your own fault. it's extremely hypocritical that you people pursue Believe and people such as him but people like Nerchio and IdrA are completely fine right? just because Believe isn't "e-famous" he isn't exempt to the "it's fine to BM" status?

People get upset in this game, you should expect outlash of emotions. people get mad and frusturated when they arent excelling at something they are passionate about. everyone in here has bm'd at some point or thought bad things about another player. so forgive and forget and move on.

Believe is a great player, I know him IRL and he's a good friend. He's one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. He might be a bit BM online, but that's because he gets frusturated when he loses. I'm pretty sure Believe doesn't say anything he actually means most of the time. I know he has beef with some of the Toronto players (and so do I), so maybe theirs some hatred between them. But the randoms he plays on ladder i doubt he actually means anything he says



I agree, you people are being so hypocritical here. He apologized for his bm, what more do you want from him? His first-born child? Let it go.

#ibelieveicanfly
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
June 28 2013 01:36 GMT
#51
On June 28 2013 08:15 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 08:06 Xtkq wrote:
something i've learned from all this is the average sc2 player base is extremely immature. sure believe BMs, but move on and get over with it. it's a video game, anything you take into literal context is your own fault. it's extremely hypocritical that you people pursue Believe and people such as him but people like Nerchio and IdrA are completely fine right? just because Believe isn't "e-famous" he isn't exempt to the "it's fine to BM" status?

People get upset in this game, you should expect outlash of emotions. people get mad and frusturated when they arent excelling at something they are passionate about. everyone in here has bm'd at some point or thought bad things about another player. so forgive and forget and move on.

Believe is a great player, I know him IRL and he's a good friend. He's one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. He might be a bit BM online, but that's because he gets frusturated when he loses. I'm pretty sure Believe doesn't say anything he actually means most of the time. I know he has beef with some of the Toronto players (and so do I), so maybe theirs some hatred between them. But the randoms he plays on ladder i doubt he actually means anything he says



I agree, you people are being so hypocritical here. He apologized for his bm, what more do you want from him? His first-born child? Let it go.

#ibelieveicanfly


Fuck yeah I want his first born child. There are so many activities that we could do together as father and stolen son.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
binski
Profile Joined December 2010
United States225 Posts
July 26 2013 04:43 GMT
#52
literally happened a couple hours ago

http://puu.sh/3LV2Z/19410f5396.png

hasn't changed at all haha
MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
July 26 2013 04:57 GMT
#53
Well, i am very upset that you have never BM'ed me, and i wont forgive you till i am thoroughly insulted.
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
NoMicroWin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States688 Posts
July 26 2013 05:07 GMT
#54
I have known John (Believe, Trixy, etc.) since playing warcraft 3. He has always had a talent for games and works fairly hard, and gets good results mechanically and technically, and I thought he might be able to achieve greatness. But, I have always been skeptical about his mental downfalls. I would consider him a friend, yet he would even BM me occasionally in customs (this was years ago, mind you.) I really hope he can overcome these problems, and I will be a support system in any way possible.
If she pulls out her stalkers, you pull out your mauraders and concussive all over her tits
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
July 26 2013 05:15 GMT
#55
why does anyone care about a random mediocre doofus with anger issues??
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MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
July 26 2013 05:31 GMT
#56
On July 26 2013 14:15 QuanticHawk wrote:
why does anyone care about a random mediocre doofus with anger issues??

Well, when said doofus creates multiple accounts to say positive things about himself, it gives the impression that people care.
I just love how BM is becoming a mental illness. Perhaps I can park handicap if i prove to the DMV that i get pissed online.
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29904 Posts
July 26 2013 10:30 GMT
#57
On July 26 2013 13:43 binski wrote:
literally happened a couple hours ago

http://puu.sh/3LV2Z/19410f5396.png

hasn't changed at all haha

LOL. Ban this guy, cause he's clearly a faggot.
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chadissilent
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1187 Posts
July 26 2013 13:44 GMT
#58
You're fucked, Believe. You exhibit legitimate psychopathic behaviour, seek help. Nobody's going to forgive you because you won't change without serious therapy. You can't fix crazy.
Race is Terran
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States382 Posts
July 26 2013 15:45 GMT
#59
On July 26 2013 22:44 chadissilent wrote:
You're fucked, Believe. You exhibit legitimate psychopathic behaviour, seek help. Nobody's going to forgive you because you won't change without serious therapy. You can't fix crazy.



Checkley checklist to being a psychopath

Superficial charm and good "intelligence" ??
Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking ??
Absence of "nervousness" or psychoneurotic manifestations ??
Unreliability ??
Untruthfulness and insincerity yes
Lack of remorse and shame yes
Inadequately motivated antisocial behavior ??
Poor judgment and failure to learn by experience yes
Pathologic egocentricity and incapacity for love yes
General poverty in major affective reactions ??
Specific loss of insight ??
Unresponsiveness in general interpersonal relations ??
Fantastic and uninviting behavior with drink and sometimes without ??
Suicide threats rarely carried out ??
Sex life impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated ??
Failure to follow any life plan ??

-Debaser-
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States329 Posts
July 26 2013 16:18 GMT
#60
Haha this guy will never grow up, in a recent clanwar instead of leaving the game he just hid pylons and assimilators and AFK'd until he was eliminated rofl
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