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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51038 Posts
September 26 2012 10:54 GMT
#881
On September 26 2012 19:49 don_kyuhote wrote:
man I completely missed Chill vs Telecom (Why did they even play? lol)


because why not :p

anyways this was fun.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 12:18:20
September 26 2012 11:53 GMT
#882
I rewatched the part of the cast in which I entered out of curiosity. The initial question of "is this puppykiller" I heard twice, once when it was asked on skype and once when the stream delay rebroadcasted it (since I hadn't yet disconnected my headphones). I was oblivious to this so when I was mocked I thought the reasons were different, and after repeatedly being mocked and interrupted while speaking by my co-casters I decided to that they were likely to continue to act this way towards me for the duration that I casted with them. Rather than retreat, I decided to respond with harshness and dedicate my energy towards invalidating a very proud carlock who ignorantly thought that he possessed the right, the wit, and the authority to make a fool of me. If you watch the opening you can see how our relationship rapidly degenerates.

http://www.twitch.tv/vtarlock/b/333495047

While I still remain offended with the highjacked cast, I want to make it clear to the viewers that I did not come into the cast looking to pick a fight at the expense of the entertainment for those watching. I am not even close to that level of immaturity. I was annoyed with the highjacking of the cast but initially I was planning for the sake of the show to show no signs of this and instead to participate in an entertaining follow up to what I heard was a disappointing series.

I still disprove of warlock's supposition that he either deserved or was desired to participate in an event that had absolutely nothing to do with him. I am disappointed that the viewers didn't protest to have Kiante, Hackle, L_master, Noise, Game, aegyo, Ribbon (seriously), SNM in korean, nina with auto-tune or any other actual BW commentator to cast with reese, rather than an untested (in terms of casting skill) unknown (In bw he's unknown and when I followed sc2 I never heard of him) sc2 player who just happened to be the most recent to post a request to cast in the thread. I put a lot of effort into this event and it is frustrating to see it covered behind my back by an individual who knows jack shit about either the BW scene, or the players involved in the GM (he had a small window of time in which he got to know Telecom but there are few people here who haven't). I did fuck up with my scheduling and while the show had to go on, I was disappointed to see that no capable and qualified casters took the streaming initiative.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Sayle
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom3685 Posts
September 26 2012 12:02 GMT
#883
I thought the reason they used Arlock's stream was because random_korean wanted a stream delay and you can only do that with partnered streams.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 12:43:21
September 26 2012 12:42 GMT
#884
On September 26 2012 16:33 puppykiller wrote:
I was mad because a match that me and many others spent a lot of time putting together was highjacked while I was away by people with no investment in it. I joined the call initially to talk about the games but Airlock and Chill right off the bat acted abrasive towards me. I got annoyed so I decided to act obnoxiously towards Airlock. Fuck him.

WTF? You came into the call with the stream on and unable to have a conversation without monologuing for a minute.

What time did you put into this match beside posting comments?
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puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
September 26 2012 12:44 GMT
#885
On September 26 2012 21:02 Sayle wrote:
I thought the reason they used Arlock's stream was because random_korean wanted a stream delay and you can only do that with partnered streams.


That was his initial excuse for why he should be the streamer behind the GM. However even when he thought that he wouldn't be able to stream, he still tried to latch himself on as a caster when there was no longer a reason:



On September 26 2012 08:24 VTArlock wrote:
I may have to step down for streaming, I've been trying to figure out how to get all the screen regions and resolutions correct and I can't seem to do it.

:/ I'm running dual widescreens and its just giving me issues, in game looks odd as well.

Unless someone wants to show me how to correctly configure this I'm clueless. I have it set for sc2



On September 26 2012 08:32 VTArlock wrote:
I'm talking to Siz)Beggar, he may just stream it himself and Ill cast it with assorted people.



Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 12:55:47
September 26 2012 12:52 GMT
#886
Which casters were making an attempt at attacking my personal life, when they know nothing about me? Game?

EDIT : whoever would dare than talk about more than the game, is just a pathetic bitch.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
September 26 2012 13:44 GMT
#887
On September 26 2012 21:42 Chill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 16:33 puppykiller wrote:
I was mad because a match that me and many others spent a lot of time putting together was highjacked while I was away by people with no investment in it. I joined the call initially to talk about the games but Airlock and Chill right off the bat acted abrasive towards me. I got annoyed so I decided to act obnoxiously towards Airlock. Fuck him.

WTF? You came into the call with the stream on and unable to have a conversation without monologuing for a minute.

What time did you put into this match beside posting comments?


It was a lot more than pming mods, practicing with RK, and telling him when to mellow down.

Back when every comment in this thread was either RK raging or people accusing GGzerg of dodging for not participating in a GM with stakes that were unjustified at the time, I was the only one in this entire thread who who put forth an effort to cultivate an effective communication between both parties. I saw to the maintenance of this communication for the entire duration of a very long drama laden thread, through every single one of the numerous hiccups that transpired. This entire time I have been the only one effectively doing this. Practically no one believed that this GM would ever happen. GGzerg has been challenged to many many valid GM's and to my knowledge, has not played in a single one of them. This GM was destined to die on page 4, but through maintaining a consistent and balanced communication between both of parties, I manged to make it happen, even if it took 35~ pages to evolve it into its final form. There were so many points along the way where progress towards the GM almost stopped and I exclusively kept the communication between Telcom and RK flowing, and the GM pushing forward.

Looking back I have no idea why I put so much thought into making sure this GM happened. I don't hate Telecom. I don't respect him but I feel very limited amounts of animosity towards him at all. I think from the very beginning I had a hint of an idea of how to make this GM happen. When I saw so many people doubtful, I took it as a challenge. Then when things started to take off, I decided I was going to make sure that it was good.

If you are curious as to why I am disappointed, this is the reason. The amount I invested was nullified when third parties took ownership of the direction of the GM the second that my back was turned. RK was unwilling to utilize his spare time to practice and ascertain an even slightly tolerable level of play. He went into the GM apathetic to whether or not he could put his money where his mouth was.

I'm not blaming you two for acting like faggots towards me when my tech issues made me sound like a retard when I entered the cast. I am simply offended by the audacity that both of you possessed, and the air of ownership that the both of you permeated in regards to the GM.

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Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
September 26 2012 14:34 GMT
#888
Wow just wow.
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Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
September 26 2012 14:41 GMT
#889
lollll

is that an essay about how you're sad that you didn't get all the attention on a grudge match you "helped facilitate"


da fuq
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Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 14:44:55
September 26 2012 14:44 GMT
#890
Just put his name on top of the thread lol

Could not have happened without: puppykiller
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
September 26 2012 14:51 GMT
#891
On September 26 2012 23:41 Kiante wrote:

is that an essay about how you're sad that you didn't get all the attention on a grudge match you "helped facilitate"

The theme of this GM was to write in essays. It all started with RK and GGzerg writing essays to each other as Chill pointed out in the cast.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25998 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 14:52:15
September 26 2012 14:52 GMT
#892
On September 26 2012 22:44 puppykiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 21:42 Chill wrote:
On September 26 2012 16:33 puppykiller wrote:
I was mad because a match that me and many others spent a lot of time putting together was highjacked while I was away by people with no investment in it. I joined the call initially to talk about the games but Airlock and Chill right off the bat acted abrasive towards me. I got annoyed so I decided to act obnoxiously towards Airlock. Fuck him.

WTF? You came into the call with the stream on and unable to have a conversation without monologuing for a minute.

What time did you put into this match beside posting comments?

I'm not blaming you two for acting like faggots towards me when my tech issues made me sound like a retard when I entered the cast. I am simply offended by the audacity that both of you possessed, and the air of ownership that the both of you permeated in regards to the GM.

It had nothing to do with tech issues, that was just a 5 second thing. It was the fact that you can't have a conversation.
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Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
September 26 2012 15:09 GMT
#893
Chill vs puppykiller gogo. telecom + randomko cast this.
En Taro Violet
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
September 26 2012 15:12 GMT
#894
This after-drama is better than the GM itself. Fucking hilarious.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Jaevlaterran
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden578 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 15:16:21
September 26 2012 15:13 GMT
#895
Fun GM! Fun to see Chill bust out his late game again (as it was in ThSL). As much fun as it was to finally see this feud settled, this needs to be said.

Commentator issues:
It was great that someone decided to take on the responsibility to actually cast the game on his stream, it did seem to be uncertain before the game.

Weird thing when most of the commentators seem to know very little about the actual game itself nor enjoy watching it very much.

You can not cast with 14 commentators. Some people had to go.

A caster should (I think I speak for most stream viewers when I say that) preferably be well known, entertaining or knowledgeable. Best ofc with all three. There is one thing that is more important: he casts the game. That means declaring who's who (people were wondering who was who in the first game until the end) and talking about what's going on, stats, etc.

Clearly lacking in all those aspects.
Need a light?
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-26 15:55:24
September 26 2012 15:49 GMT
#896
Now unban Game so we can have a 1000$ grudge match.

On September 27 2012 00:09 Stratos wrote:
Chill vs puppykiller gogo. telecom + randomko cast this.

That would make a really ankward duo LOL
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
September 26 2012 16:40 GMT
#897
So op that was talking shit got beat by the dodger?

lovely.
Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
September 26 2012 16:50 GMT
#898
+ Show Spoiler +
You don't want no trouble with the Aftermath staff, trust me
Doggy Dogg, Diggy Doctor plus me
No youse a busta slash hussy, soft as a Hush Puppy
Must we break you down to estrogen most hated specimen's
a bitch nigga!

Sorry but my inner demons told me to post it TT
Bisu[about JD]=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous.
SilSol
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden2744 Posts
September 26 2012 16:50 GMT
#899
Lol i had some really good laughs watching this and some really good laughs when Game came in there, gotta love that guy <3 wth we should have more of these in the future! loved the hole thing really haha
http://fragbite.se/user/117868/silsol since 2006 http://www.reddit.com/u/silsol77
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 26 2012 16:57 GMT
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